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	<description>Don&#039;t dis or dismiss this miss!</description>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/08/09/the-exploitation-of-cindy-sheehan/comment-page-1/#comment-16835</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 14:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on Bak - mewonders if &quot;Eddie&quot; was a drive by, though ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on Bak &#8211; mewonders if &#8220;Eddie&#8221; was a drive by, though &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/08/09/the-exploitation-of-cindy-sheehan/comment-page-1/#comment-16755</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 21:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh well. I&#039;m done waiting...

Here&#039;s a good post for you. 

http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2004/10/07/if-bush-lied-so-did-many-others/

Besides Bill Clinton, there are many that said the same as Bush. They are:
1) French Intelligence
2) German Intelligence
3) Kerry (John)
4) Russian Intelligence
5) Madeliene Albright
6) British Intelligence
7) U.S. Intelligence
8) Other Democrat Senators (who coincidentally mostly voted for the war - only 12 didn&#039;t)

So. The question is - if everyone said that Saddam had biological and chemical weapons &lt;strong&gt;and&lt;/strong&gt; Saddam had used them on his own people in the past, where are they (where did they get moved to in the 18 month long &quot;rush&quot; to war)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well. I&#8217;m done waiting&#8230;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a good post for you. </p>
<p><a href="http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2004/10/07/if-bush-lied-so-did-many-others/" rel="nofollow">http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2004/10/07/if-bush-lied-so-did-many-others/</a></p>
<p>Besides Bill Clinton, there are many that said the same as Bush. They are:<br />
1) French Intelligence<br />
2) German Intelligence<br />
3) Kerry (John)<br />
4) Russian Intelligence<br />
5) Madeliene Albright<br />
6) British Intelligence<br />
7) U.S. Intelligence<br />
 <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Other Democrat Senators (who coincidentally mostly voted for the war &#8211; only 12 didn&#8217;t)</p>
<p>So. The question is &#8211; if everyone said that Saddam had biological and chemical weapons <strong>and</strong> Saddam had used them on his own people in the past, where are they (where did they get moved to in the 18 month long &#8220;rush&#8221; to war)?</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/08/09/the-exploitation-of-cindy-sheehan/comment-page-1/#comment-16753</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 20:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eddie,

What were the &quot;lies&quot; that this war was pushed on?

I&#039;m waiting to be educated...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddie,</p>
<p>What were the &#8220;lies&#8221; that this war was pushed on?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m waiting to be educated&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/08/09/the-exploitation-of-cindy-sheehan/comment-page-1/#comment-16751</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This war was pushed by only lies, yet under those lies 1,300 american soldier are death. Somebody must be accountable for those lies and those deaths. Still you don&#039;t get who? Pathetic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This war was pushed by only lies, yet under those lies 1,300 american soldier are death. Somebody must be accountable for those lies and those deaths. Still you don&#8217;t get who? Pathetic!</p>
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		<title>By: actus</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/08/09/the-exploitation-of-cindy-sheehan/comment-page-1/#comment-16497</link>
		<dc:creator>actus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 19:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You can be anti-war without all the hostility&quot;

I mean, who would think about war and hostility going together?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You can be anti-war without all the hostility&#8221;</p>
<p>I mean, who would think about war and hostility going together?</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Carlton: codenamed  "Jack Lewis"</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/08/09/the-exploitation-of-cindy-sheehan/comment-page-1/#comment-16478</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Carlton: codenamed  "Jack Lewis"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 16:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Headlines&lt;/strong&gt;

Cindy Sheehan and the Grief Pimps: Drudge focuses on Vacaville mom &#160; Coverage: Michelle Malkin, Protein Wisdom, DUmmy FUndies, Jawa...</description>
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<p>Cindy Sheehan and the Grief Pimps: Drudge focuses on Vacaville mom &nbsp; Coverage: Michelle Malkin, Protein Wisdom, DUmmy FUndies, Jawa&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/08/09/the-exploitation-of-cindy-sheehan/comment-page-1/#comment-16386</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2005 23:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either way, she wasn&#039;t belligerent about it like she&#039;s being now.  You can be anti-war without all the hostility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either way, she wasn&#8217;t belligerent about it like she&#8217;s being now.  You can be anti-war without all the hostility.</p>
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		<title>By: biwah</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/08/09/the-exploitation-of-cindy-sheehan/comment-page-1/#comment-16380</link>
		<dc:creator>biwah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2005 22:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ST: She was anti-war before her son went.  To me, that shows her credibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ST: She was anti-war before her son went.  To me, that shows her credibility.</p>
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		<title>By: biwah</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/08/09/the-exploitation-of-cindy-sheehan/comment-page-1/#comment-16379</link>
		<dc:creator>biwah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2005 22:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I said Sheehan seems to have personal integrity.  I didn&#039;t say or imply that she (or any political viewpoint) had a monopoly on it.  

Not to be too obvious, but you don&#039;t know the first thing about me.  So, respectfully, save it.  

If people who object to our entrance into this war can never ever have integrity, then clearly there is nothing to discuss.  But in my experience, people are driven by different motives.  Sheehan has a strength that in many ways can&#039;t be matched by any politico, since she seems utterly sincere.

That&#039;s why Goldstein&#039;s comment seems pretty darn patronizing to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said Sheehan seems to have personal integrity.  I didn&#8217;t say or imply that she (or any political viewpoint) had a monopoly on it.  </p>
<p>Not to be too obvious, but you don&#8217;t know the first thing about me.  So, respectfully, save it.  </p>
<p>If people who object to our entrance into this war can never ever have integrity, then clearly there is nothing to discuss.  But in my experience, people are driven by different motives.  Sheehan has a strength that in many ways can&#8217;t be matched by any politico, since she seems utterly sincere.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why Goldstein&#8217;s comment seems pretty darn patronizing to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/08/09/the-exploitation-of-cindy-sheehan/comment-page-1/#comment-16375</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2005 22:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;biwah:&lt;/strong&gt; I&#039;d give a little more credibilty to her claims now had she not been different a year ago.  It sort of reminds me of the Wes Clark thing, you know?  But in a different way - Wes Clark was exploiting his Republican-like hawkishness but in this case it&#039;s antiw-war types exploiting this woman&#039;s grief.  That&#039;s wrong, no matter how you slice it.

&lt;strong&gt;Bang: &lt;/strong&gt; Good point on the pacifist thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>biwah:</strong> I&#8217;d give a little more credibilty to her claims now had she not been different a year ago.  It sort of reminds me of the Wes Clark thing, you know?  But in a different way &#8211; Wes Clark was exploiting his Republican-like hawkishness but in this case it&#8217;s antiw-war types exploiting this woman&#8217;s grief.  That&#8217;s wrong, no matter how you slice it.</p>
<p><strong>Bang: </strong> Good point on the pacifist thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Bang Hunter</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/08/09/the-exploitation-of-cindy-sheehan/comment-page-1/#comment-16373</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Bang Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2005 22:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- Rather than respond to yet another pointless canard, wrongly implying that any person in their right mind is &quot;pro-war&quot;, and therefore somehow lacks in personal integrity, lets go this way....

- Maybe if we just bite the bullet and issue &quot;get out of any possible present or future draft cards&quot; to all the liberals they will sit down and stop shaking. I love to watch liberals pontificate about other peoples morals, and denegrate those who have the character they themselves lack. Especially when good people lay down their lives to protect these morale cowards. That they do it anyway, in spite of the jabs and bad mouthing, speaks volumes about who has real character.

- Its about defending your country, and your family, and your way of life. Get it? Its not about some elitist theories your polysci prof. filled your young impressionable noggin with. The one thing your prof. probably never told you is that down through history in every country that ever gave in to tyrrany, the very first people marched to the chopping block are always the Kum-biyah singing &quot;elitist&quot; pacifists. Get an independent mind. It will make you feel better about yourself....

&lt;em&gt;Bang, please address your fellow commenters by their names rather than other things, por favor.  Gracias! --ST&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- Rather than respond to yet another pointless canard, wrongly implying that any person in their right mind is &#8220;pro-war&#8221;, and therefore somehow lacks in personal integrity, lets go this way&#8230;.</p>
<p>- Maybe if we just bite the bullet and issue &#8220;get out of any possible present or future draft cards&#8221; to all the liberals they will sit down and stop shaking. I love to watch liberals pontificate about other peoples morals, and denegrate those who have the character they themselves lack. Especially when good people lay down their lives to protect these morale cowards. That they do it anyway, in spite of the jabs and bad mouthing, speaks volumes about who has real character.</p>
<p>- Its about defending your country, and your family, and your way of life. Get it? Its not about some elitist theories your polysci prof. filled your young impressionable noggin with. The one thing your prof. probably never told you is that down through history in every country that ever gave in to tyrrany, the very first people marched to the chopping block are always the Kum-biyah singing &#8220;elitist&#8221; pacifists. Get an independent mind. It will make you feel better about yourself&#8230;.</p>
<p><em>Bang, please address your fellow commenters by their names rather than other things, por favor.  Gracias! &#8211;ST</em></p>
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		<title>By: biwah</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/08/09/the-exploitation-of-cindy-sheehan/comment-page-1/#comment-16372</link>
		<dc:creator>biwah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2005 21:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Instead, this poor grieving woman is taking solace—solace I believe she&#039;ll later come to regret—&quot;

Read Sheehan&#039;s statements - she sounds like she&#039;ll be quite alright without your concern for her future regrets.  Nor does anything suggest that anyone is putting her up to her activism.

Why ascribe all these motives to her?  She is a pissed-off mother who had any fear of suppression by the feds taken out of her when her son died.  

From where I&#039;m standing, your moral outrage masks denial at the fact that she is a person of integrity with a strong anti-war, anti-administration message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Instead, this poor grieving woman is taking solace—solace I believe she&#8217;ll later come to regret—&#8221;</p>
<p>Read Sheehan&#8217;s statements &#8211; she sounds like she&#8217;ll be quite alright without your concern for her future regrets.  Nor does anything suggest that anyone is putting her up to her activism.</p>
<p>Why ascribe all these motives to her?  She is a pissed-off mother who had any fear of suppression by the feds taken out of her when her son died.  </p>
<p>From where I&#8217;m standing, your moral outrage masks denial at the fact that she is a person of integrity with a strong anti-war, anti-administration message.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/08/09/the-exploitation-of-cindy-sheehan/comment-page-1/#comment-16369</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2005 21:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Bang:&lt;/strong&gt; I haven&#039;t heard of the DNC endorsing this, and I hope they don&#039;t because I don&#039;t see any gains to be made from it.  They really have to tread very carefully on issues like this (although I&#039;m sure on an individual level some of them do support this).

If there are &quot;gains&quot; to be made here, it&#039;s by the morally repugnant actions of the anti-war groups glomming on to this woman like a cheap suit.  It&#039;s sickening and speaks volumes about their character - or what little bit they have, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Bang:</strong> I haven&#8217;t heard of the DNC endorsing this, and I hope they don&#8217;t because I don&#8217;t see any gains to be made from it.  They really have to tread very carefully on issues like this (although I&#8217;m sure on an individual level some of them do support this).</p>
<p>If there are &#8220;gains&#8221; to be made here, it&#8217;s by the morally repugnant actions of the anti-war groups glomming on to this woman like a cheap suit.  It&#8217;s sickening and speaks volumes about their character &#8211; or what little bit they have, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Bang Hunter</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/08/09/the-exploitation-of-cindy-sheehan/comment-page-1/#comment-16364</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Bang Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2005 20:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- You know this is what it comes down to for me personally. Its not the ideologocal differences I have with liberals, as deep as they might run. Its not the ad hominem attacks, the vicious anti-American comments, chimpBushy nonsense, or their abiding hypocritical flip-flopping and diametrically ironic opposite issues they espouse, sometimes at the same instant , (ie &quot;Save the killers on death row and pull the feeding tube of anyone not able to defend themselves such as the unborn). All of that is there but its not the straw. No. The straw is their greedy willingness to cast aside any modicum of decency, or personal character in the sheer interests of self-serving exploitation in the name of party gains. 

- But then again are these sorts of things really &quot;gains&quot; when so many moderates, and most conservatives in general, see right through it. Its the old story of being so focused on &quot;the ends justify&quot;, they ask &quot;can I do this&quot; instead of &quot;should I do this&quot;.... Just my opinion.....I could be a 700 lb gorrilla, ala Dennis......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- You know this is what it comes down to for me personally. Its not the ideologocal differences I have with liberals, as deep as they might run. Its not the ad hominem attacks, the vicious anti-American comments, chimpBushy nonsense, or their abiding hypocritical flip-flopping and diametrically ironic opposite issues they espouse, sometimes at the same instant , (ie &#8220;Save the killers on death row and pull the feeding tube of anyone not able to defend themselves such as the unborn). All of that is there but its not the straw. No. The straw is their greedy willingness to cast aside any modicum of decency, or personal character in the sheer interests of self-serving exploitation in the name of party gains. </p>
<p>- But then again are these sorts of things really &#8220;gains&#8221; when so many moderates, and most conservatives in general, see right through it. Its the old story of being so focused on &#8220;the ends justify&#8221;, they ask &#8220;can I do this&#8221; instead of &#8220;should I do this&#8221;&#8230;. Just my opinion&#8230;..I could be a 700 lb gorrilla, ala Dennis&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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