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	<title>Comments on: Josh Levin: Mourning My New Orleans</title>
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	<description>Don&#039;t dis or dismiss this miss!</description>
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		<title>By: GBA</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/09/01/josh-levin-mourning-my-new-orleans/comment-page-1/#comment-23178</link>
		<dc:creator>GBA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 14:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baklava,

Is it more productive to lie and say 
&quot; hey you&#039;re doing a great job&quot; 
as the dead bodies float past?

I&#039;ll stick with the truth if you don&#039;t mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baklava,</p>
<p>Is it more productive to lie and say<br />
&#8221; hey you&#8217;re doing a great job&#8221;<br />
as the dead bodies float past?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll stick with the truth if you don&#8217;t mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/09/01/josh-levin-mourning-my-new-orleans/comment-page-1/#comment-22986</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 03:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Full of obsessive hate?

Here&#039;s a question. Do you think Bush doesn&#039;t care? 

Do you know GBA what&#039;s in W&#039;s mind (as so many liberals seem to think they know)?

Again. Who is responsible for passing the test? 

I say everyone. Not just one person. 

Again. It&#039;s not productive to tell everyone they are failing the test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Full of obsessive hate?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a question. Do you think Bush doesn&#8217;t care? </p>
<p>Do you know GBA what&#8217;s in W&#8217;s mind (as so many liberals seem to think they know)?</p>
<p>Again. Who is responsible for passing the test? </p>
<p>I say everyone. Not just one person. </p>
<p>Again. It&#8217;s not productive to tell everyone they are failing the test.</p>
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		<title>By: GBA</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/09/01/josh-levin-mourning-my-new-orleans/comment-page-1/#comment-22979</link>
		<dc:creator>GBA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 00:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ST,
Of Course not. I just could not find that excerpt.

I never thought you were mistaken of the facts. I only thought you may have accidentally linked the wrong article. You do link many articles each day and you&#039;re not a robot. Thanks you for the new article. I will read it now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ST,<br />
Of Course not. I just could not find that excerpt.</p>
<p>I never thought you were mistaken of the facts. I only thought you may have accidentally linked the wrong article. You do link many articles each day and you&#8217;re not a robot. Thanks you for the new article. I will read it now.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/09/01/josh-levin-mourning-my-new-orleans/comment-page-1/#comment-22977</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 00:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I read that article five times and I was not able to find the excerpt that you quoted. Is that in another article? Perhaps somewhere esle?&quot;

Either the article content has changed or I posted the wrong link.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-09-01-katrina_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Here is another&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;A military helicopter tried to land at the convention center several times to drop off food and water. But the rushing crowd forced the choppers to back off. Troopers then tossed the supplies to the crowd from 10 feet off the ground and flew away.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&quot;Could you be mistaken?&quot;

Mistaken about what? Do you think I just made the quote up out of thin air?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I read that article five times and I was not able to find the excerpt that you quoted. Is that in another article? Perhaps somewhere esle?&#8221;</p>
<p>Either the article content has changed or I posted the wrong link.  <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-09-01-katrina_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA" rel="nofollow"><strong>Here is another</strong></a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>A military helicopter tried to land at the convention center several times to drop off food and water. But the rushing crowd forced the choppers to back off. Troopers then tossed the supplies to the crowd from 10 feet off the ground and flew away.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;Could you be mistaken?&#8221;</p>
<p>Mistaken about what? Do you think I just made the quote up out of thin air?</p>
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		<title>By: GBA</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/09/01/josh-levin-mourning-my-new-orleans/comment-page-1/#comment-22973</link>
		<dc:creator>GBA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 21:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ST,
RE:Don&#039;t trust me? Look it up at Yahoo News or on Google. Here, I&#039;ll help:

I read that article five times and I was not able to find the excerpt that you quoted. Is that in another article? Perhaps somewhere esle? Could you be mistaken?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ST,<br />
RE<img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_bigsmile.gif' alt='&#58;&#68;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#58;&#68;' />on&#8217;t trust me? Look it up at Yahoo News or on Google. Here, I&#8217;ll help:</p>
<p>I read that article five times and I was not able to find the excerpt that you quoted. Is that in another article? Perhaps somewhere esle? Could you be mistaken?</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/09/01/josh-levin-mourning-my-new-orleans/comment-page-1/#comment-22590</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 02:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks - I apologize for not making my policy on links more clear.  I&#039;ve just updated my comments post to reflect that info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks &#8211; I apologize for not making my policy on links more clear.  I&#8217;ve just updated my comments post to reflect that info.</p>
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		<title>By: GodBlessAmerica</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/09/01/josh-levin-mourning-my-new-orleans/comment-page-1/#comment-22587</link>
		<dc:creator>GodBlessAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 02:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My apologies fair lady.
I do beg your pardon for my offensive and inaccurate supposition.
I was wrong.

Stipulation is agreed on and is very fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My apologies fair lady.<br />
I do beg your pardon for my offensive and inaccurate supposition.<br />
I was wrong.</p>
<p>Stipulation is agreed on and is very fair.</p>
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		<title>By: GodBlessAmerica</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/09/01/josh-levin-mourning-my-new-orleans/comment-page-1/#comment-22576</link>
		<dc:creator>GodBlessAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 02:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You did not request that I not post a limited number of links. Or limit the number of links in my posts. If you had requested it I would have complied.

You omitted most of the links I posted.
Some very patriotic images in my opinion.

And in the past when you have made decisions concerning my post I have respected your authority and greater wisdom.

&lt;em&gt;Fine.  I will repost your links with the stipulation that in the future you don&#039;t post more than four links in a post.  I&#039;ll also update my comments policy with that info so everyone will be clear.   I also suggest not questioning my patriotism or calling me a censor again.  I do my best to run this blog in the fairest manner possible and you know it.  Here are your links: &lt;/em&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.campbell.army.mil/hphotos.htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;LINK 1&lt;/a&gt;    
&lt;a href=&quot;http://web.newsguy.com/sather/helo/BellAH-1_Cobra.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;LINK 2&lt;/a&gt;    
&lt;a href=&quot;http://web.newsguy.com/sather/helo/SikorskyCH-53E.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;LINK 3&lt;/a&gt;     
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/2307/09-97.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;LINK 4&lt;/a&gt;    
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.campbell.army.mil/LAO/images/UH-60.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;LINK 5&lt;/a&gt;    
&lt;a href=&quot;http://tri.army.mil/LC/CS/csa/uh60001.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;LINK 6&lt;/a&gt;     
&lt;a href=&quot;http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/arcopters/nlcopters-5.htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;LINK 7&lt;/a&gt;  
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vietnamexp.com/MorePhotos/page13.htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;LINK 8&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You did not request that I not post a limited number of links. Or limit the number of links in my posts. If you had requested it I would have complied.</p>
<p>You omitted most of the links I posted.<br />
Some very patriotic images in my opinion.</p>
<p>And in the past when you have made decisions concerning my post I have respected your authority and greater wisdom.</p>
<p><em>Fine.  I will repost your links with the stipulation that in the future you don&#8217;t post more than four links in a post.  I&#8217;ll also update my comments policy with that info so everyone will be clear.   I also suggest not questioning my patriotism or calling me a censor again.  I do my best to run this blog in the fairest manner possible and you know it.  Here are your links: </em></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.campbell.army.mil/hphotos.htm" target="_blank">LINK 1</a><br />
<a href="http://web.newsguy.com/sather/helo/BellAH-1_Cobra.jpg" target="_blank">LINK 2</a><br />
<a href="http://web.newsguy.com/sather/helo/SikorskyCH-53E.jpg" target="_blank">LINK 3</a><br />
<a href="http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/2307/09-97.jpg" target="_blank">LINK 4</a><br />
<a href="http://www.campbell.army.mil/LAO/images/UH-60.jpg" target="_blank">LINK 5</a><br />
<a href="http://tri.army.mil/LC/CS/csa/uh60001.jpg" target="_blank">LINK 6</a><br />
<a href="http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/arcopters/nlcopters-5.htm" target="_blank">LINK 7</a><br />
<a href="http://www.vietnamexp.com/MorePhotos/page13.htm" target="_blank">LINK 8</a></strong></p>
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		<title>By: GodBlessAmerica</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/09/01/josh-levin-mourning-my-new-orleans/comment-page-1/#comment-22569</link>
		<dc:creator>GodBlessAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 02:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;You&#039;re questioning my patriotism simply because I respectfully requested via implication that you not post so many links? Nice.  Our debates have been nice - up til this point.  Now all of a sudden I&#039;m a &quot;censor&quot;?  Whatever floats your boat, GBA.   &lt;/em&gt;   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>You&#8217;re questioning my patriotism simply because I respectfully requested via implication that you not post so many links? Nice.  Our debates have been nice &#8211; up til this point.  Now all of a sudden I&#8217;m a &#8220;censor&#8221;?  Whatever floats your boat, GBA.   </em></p>
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		<title>By: GodBlessAmerica</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/09/01/josh-levin-mourning-my-new-orleans/comment-page-1/#comment-22565</link>
		<dc:creator>GodBlessAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 01:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;If you don&#039;t like the way I run my blog you are free to find what you feel would be greener pastures.  No one is forcing you to stay here.  --ST&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>If you don&#8217;t like the way I run my blog you are free to find what you feel would be greener pastures.  No one is forcing you to stay here.  &#8211;ST</em></p>
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		<title>By: GodBlessAmerica</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/09/01/josh-levin-mourning-my-new-orleans/comment-page-1/#comment-22563</link>
		<dc:creator>GodBlessAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 01:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush: Katrina Response &#039;Not Acceptable&#039; 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/katrina_bush&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;LINK&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.news.navy.mil/local/hurricane/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;LINK&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www4.army.mil/news/article.php?story=7839&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;LINK&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;em&gt;GBA: These few links will be just fine! Thanks. --ST&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush: Katrina Response &#8216;Not Acceptable&#8217; </p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/katrina_bush" target="_blank"><strong>LINK</strong></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.news.navy.mil/local/hurricane/" target="_blank"><strong>LINK</strong></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www4.army.mil/news/article.php?story=7839" target="_blank"><strong>LINK</strong></a></p>
<p><em>GBA: These few links will be just fine! Thanks. &#8211;ST</em></p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/09/01/josh-levin-mourning-my-new-orleans/comment-page-1/#comment-22560</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 01:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Kevin:&lt;/strong&gt; Thanks for your insight into this.  Being on the outside looking in, it&#039;s hard for me to assess what should be done and shouldn&#039;t be done and I&#039;m not even about to pretend like I know everything that should be done.  Big time prayers to all affected down there, including sailors and their families.  I know the US military is stepping in to save the day, just like they always  have.  I sleep well at night knowing we have the finest military force of any country in the world.

&lt;strong&gt;Bak:&lt;/strong&gt; I don&#039;t get Michael Medved here but I&#039;m glad to hear he&#039;s helping to set the record straight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Kevin:</strong> Thanks for your insight into this.  Being on the outside looking in, it&#8217;s hard for me to assess what should be done and shouldn&#8217;t be done and I&#8217;m not even about to pretend like I know everything that should be done.  Big time prayers to all affected down there, including sailors and their families.  I know the US military is stepping in to save the day, just like they always  have.  I sleep well at night knowing we have the finest military force of any country in the world.</p>
<p><strong>Bak:</strong> I don&#8217;t get Michael Medved here but I&#8217;m glad to hear he&#8217;s helping to set the record straight.</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/09/01/josh-levin-mourning-my-new-orleans/comment-page-1/#comment-22510</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 21:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, For all who is concerned, listening to Michael Medved is a way of hearing sanity while I&#039;ve been here at work. 

He&#039;s outlining ALL of the untrue statements of the left and providing the true perspective of the horrific circumstances - using sources such as the Army Corp of Engineer (for the levee situation which broke &lt;strong&gt;TUESDAY&lt;/strong&gt; and the New York Times and Washington Post (not right wing news sources).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, For all who is concerned, listening to Michael Medved is a way of hearing sanity while I&#8217;ve been here at work. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s outlining ALL of the untrue statements of the left and providing the true perspective of the horrific circumstances &#8211; using sources such as the Army Corp of Engineer (for the levee situation which broke <strong>TUESDAY</strong> and the New York Times and Washington Post (not right wing news sources).</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/09/01/josh-levin-mourning-my-new-orleans/comment-page-1/#comment-22493</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 20:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting reading. I&#039;ll quote GBA here:
&lt;em&gt;&quot;Up until yesterday they had only 35 helicopters working the greater New Orleans area. Not 350, not 3500, but 35. That represents less than 300 airmen if they work 12 hour shifts. Or less if they work longer shifts&quot;&lt;/em&gt;
As a Navy Helo pilot of over 20 years, I can tell you that flying crews more than 12 hours per day is a bad idea. Fatigue sets in at about 8 hours and rises exponentially thereafter. Also, at least in the beginning, the onset is fairly insidious, and the loss of judgement, spacial awareness, etc. can be very hard to detect until it is too late. Even though every one of those pilots and crewmen would gladly violate our hard earned lessons on crew rest in order to save lives, we know from experience that the benfits of doing so rarely outweigh the vastly increased risks.
  I can also tell you that helicopter crews from the Navy and Coast Guard all over the country (as far away as San Diego, CA, Norfolk, VA, and Jacksonville, Fl)are converging on the area even as I write this. But just as important as numbers is the command and control required to safely get those helos and crews in and out of the area. As I used to tell my guys, numerous helos in a small area (trust me 35 helos means that the entire New Orleans metro area can be considered small) is a lot like watching little kids play soccer. They all converge on the ball and bang into each other. What is cute with 5 year olds is bad for helicopters.
   With the arrival of JTF Katerina and the USS HARRY S TRUMAN, USS BATAAN, and their supporting ships, the necessary command and control is now in place. There literally is no other force in the world capable of responding as quickly as ours is doing now, nor with such flexibility or resolve to save lives and help get the Gulf Coast states back on their feet.
   Lastly, many people are hurt or missing down on the coast. That includes quite a few Sailors and their families. Please add an extra prayer for these folks too.
Thanks-
Sluf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting reading. I&#8217;ll quote GBA here:<br />
<em>&#8220;Up until yesterday they had only 35 helicopters working the greater New Orleans area. Not 350, not 3500, but 35. That represents less than 300 airmen if they work 12 hour shifts. Or less if they work longer shifts&#8221;</em><br />
As a Navy Helo pilot of over 20 years, I can tell you that flying crews more than 12 hours per day is a bad idea. Fatigue sets in at about 8 hours and rises exponentially thereafter. Also, at least in the beginning, the onset is fairly insidious, and the loss of judgement, spacial awareness, etc. can be very hard to detect until it is too late. Even though every one of those pilots and crewmen would gladly violate our hard earned lessons on crew rest in order to save lives, we know from experience that the benfits of doing so rarely outweigh the vastly increased risks.<br />
  I can also tell you that helicopter crews from the Navy and Coast Guard all over the country (as far away as San Diego, CA, Norfolk, VA, and Jacksonville, Fl)are converging on the area even as I write this. But just as important as numbers is the command and control required to safely get those helos and crews in and out of the area. As I used to tell my guys, numerous helos in a small area (trust me 35 helos means that the entire New Orleans metro area can be considered small) is a lot like watching little kids play soccer. They all converge on the ball and bang into each other. What is cute with 5 year olds is bad for helicopters.<br />
   With the arrival of JTF Katerina and the USS HARRY S TRUMAN, USS BATAAN, and their supporting ships, the necessary command and control is now in place. There literally is no other force in the world capable of responding as quickly as ours is doing now, nor with such flexibility or resolve to save lives and help get the Gulf Coast states back on their feet.<br />
   Lastly, many people are hurt or missing down on the coast. That includes quite a few Sailors and their families. Please add an extra prayer for these folks too.<br />
Thanks-<br />
Sluf</p>
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		<title>By: newton</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/09/01/josh-levin-mourning-my-new-orleans/comment-page-1/#comment-22419</link>
		<dc:creator>newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sis, I think this guy is not stepping back - he&#039;s going full throttle!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sis, I think this guy is not stepping back &#8211; he&#8217;s going full throttle!</p>
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