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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/31/fired-up/comment-page-1/#comment-47313</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 03:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent Lott and William Niskanen, head of the Cato Institute, are now questioning whether Karl Rove should keep his policy-making job.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/news/news-bush-leak.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;LINK&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

``He (Rove) has been very successful, very effective in the political arena. The question is, should he be the deputy chief of staff for policy under the current circumstances?&#039;&#039; Lott told MSNBC&#039;s ``Hardball.&#039;&#039;

Niskanen, who served as a top economic adviser to former President Ronald Reagan, said, ``Bush is going to have to sacrifice people who have worked with him to regain some initiative.&#039;&#039;

Niskanen said any White House shake-up should ``start&#039;&#039; with Rove because of his association with the leak case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent Lott and William Niskanen, head of the Cato Institute, are now questioning whether Karl Rove should keep his policy-making job.<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/news/news-bush-leak.html" target="_blank"><strong>LINK</strong></a></p>
<p>&#8220;He (Rove) has been very successful, very effective in the political arena. The question is, should he be the deputy chief of staff for policy under the current circumstances?&#8221; Lott told MSNBC&#8217;s &#8220;Hardball.&#8221;</p>
<p>Niskanen, who served as a top economic adviser to former President Ronald Reagan, said, &#8220;Bush is going to have to sacrifice people who have worked with him to regain some initiative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Niskanen said any White House shake-up should &#8220;start&#8221; with Rove because of his association with the leak case.</p>
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		<title>By: PCD</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/31/fired-up/comment-page-1/#comment-47116</link>
		<dc:creator>PCD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 13:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian,

Because undisclosed people in the CIA asked the Justice Department to investigate.  Now, Brian, how uninformed are you?  Or is the problem you legislate as you feel fit at whatever point and written law means nothing to you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>Because undisclosed people in the CIA asked the Justice Department to investigate.  Now, Brian, how uninformed are you?  Or is the problem you legislate as you feel fit at whatever point and written law means nothing to you?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/31/fired-up/comment-page-1/#comment-47093</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 03:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PCD,

I don&#039;t just &quot;attack, attack, and attack&quot;.  I&#039;m trying to make the point that neither you, Sister Toldjah, or Baklava know enough about Valerie Plame&#039;s career to determine whether or not there were any security risks in revealing her identity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PCD,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t just &#8220;attack, attack, and attack&#8221;.  I&#8217;m trying to make the point that neither you, Sister Toldjah, or Baklava know enough about Valerie Plame&#8217;s career to determine whether or not there were any security risks in revealing her identity.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/31/fired-up/comment-page-1/#comment-47087</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 02:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baklava,

What do think the intention of Karl Rove was in telling a reporter?  Do you really think that when Karl Rove told a reporter Valerie Plame&#039;s identity, it wasn&#039;t his intention for this to be printed in a newspaper or magazine?  How naÃ¯ve can you possibly be?

Once again you are showing your incredible arrogance.  You&#039;ve decided that you know better than the CIA or special prosecutor who spent two years investigating the case, that our national security wasn&#039;t harmed.  You do not know this.  

PCD,

If revealing Valerie Plame&#039;s identity was not a violation of the law, why was a special prosecutor appointed to investigate it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baklava,</p>
<p>What do think the intention of Karl Rove was in telling a reporter?  Do you really think that when Karl Rove told a reporter Valerie Plame&#8217;s identity, it wasn&#8217;t his intention for this to be printed in a newspaper or magazine?  How naÃ¯ve can you possibly be?</p>
<p>Once again you are showing your incredible arrogance.  You&#8217;ve decided that you know better than the CIA or special prosecutor who spent two years investigating the case, that our national security wasn&#8217;t harmed.  You do not know this.  </p>
<p>PCD,</p>
<p>If revealing Valerie Plame&#8217;s identity was not a violation of the law, why was a special prosecutor appointed to investigate it?</p>
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		<title>By: h.garner</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/31/fired-up/comment-page-1/#comment-46929</link>
		<dc:creator>h.garner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 21:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;h.garner, then where is your outrage when John Kerry, Pat Leahy, and other out CIA operations because they don&#039;t agree with them? &quot;

Outrageous. tell me more.

As a good leftist of course, I fully support the destruction of the CIA and its anti-democratic coup-makers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;h.garner, then where is your outrage when John Kerry, Pat Leahy, and other out CIA operations because they don&#8217;t agree with them? &#8221;</p>
<p>Outrageous. tell me more.</p>
<p>As a good leftist of course, I fully support the destruction of the CIA and its anti-democratic coup-makers.</p>
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		<title>By: PCD</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/31/fired-up/comment-page-1/#comment-46896</link>
		<dc:creator>PCD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 20:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>h.garner, then where is your outrage when John Kerry, Pat Leahy, and other out CIA operations because they don&#039;t agree with them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>h.garner, then where is your outrage when John Kerry, Pat Leahy, and other out CIA operations because they don&#8217;t agree with them?</p>
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		<title>By: h.garner</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/31/fired-up/comment-page-1/#comment-46893</link>
		<dc:creator>h.garner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 20:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There are enough documented instances before the article appeared that Joe Wilson bragged his wife worked at the CIA.&quot;

That&#039;s a different issue than her picture or her name being on a magazine unconnected to the CIA. 

&quot;Is it a national security breach for me to talk about the Internship program at the CIA for college students and my experience with it?&quot;

The issue is not just CIA, or internships, but covers and covertness. Is this that hard to understand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There are enough documented instances before the article appeared that Joe Wilson bragged his wife worked at the CIA.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a different issue than her picture or her name being on a magazine unconnected to the CIA. </p>
<p>&#8220;Is it a national security breach for me to talk about the Internship program at the CIA for college students and my experience with it?&#8221;</p>
<p>The issue is not just CIA, or internships, but covers and covertness. Is this that hard to understand?</p>
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		<title>By: PCD</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/31/fired-up/comment-page-1/#comment-46870</link>
		<dc:creator>PCD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 18:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>h.garner,

Perhaps you should open your eyes and mind a bit more.  There are enough documented instances before the article appeared that Joe Wilson bragged his wife worked at the CIA.

Is it a national security breach for me to talk about the Internship program at the CIA for college students and my experience with it?

garner, you are setting up a logic totaulogy, but you forget the often totaulogies are not based on true fact and fall on their face because of it.

In no way was the naming of Plame a violation of the law.  Now, you want to get all huffed up about Libby, how about Leahy and other democrats that not only leak officer&#039;s names but operations they disagree with?  You want to stop being a hypocrite and hang them just as high?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>h.garner,</p>
<p>Perhaps you should open your eyes and mind a bit more.  There are enough documented instances before the article appeared that Joe Wilson bragged his wife worked at the CIA.</p>
<p>Is it a national security breach for me to talk about the Internship program at the CIA for college students and my experience with it?</p>
<p>garner, you are setting up a logic totaulogy, but you forget the often totaulogies are not based on true fact and fall on their face because of it.</p>
<p>In no way was the naming of Plame a violation of the law.  Now, you want to get all huffed up about Libby, how about Leahy and other democrats that not only leak officer&#8217;s names but operations they disagree with?  You want to stop being a hypocrite and hang them just as high?</p>
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		<title>By: h.garner</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/31/fired-up/comment-page-1/#comment-46868</link>
		<dc:creator>h.garner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 18:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Your lack of logical reasoning is appalling. You attack, attack, and attack, but you never refute any real facts&quot;

Is this satire?

&quot;2) What was the name that Plame used undercover? YOU DON&#039;T KNOW DO YOU?
3) Her picture is worth a 1,000 words and she had her picture on the cover of Vanity Fair before she was supposedly &quot;outed&quot;. People could&#039;ve identified her purely from her picture and inside story.&quot;

Its not her name or her picture which are secret, but the fact that she was a CIA agent when she was pretending to work for her non-official cover company -- under whatever name or picture she had.

Is such a simple matter of national security so hard to understand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Your lack of logical reasoning is appalling. You attack, attack, and attack, but you never refute any real facts&#8221;</p>
<p>Is this satire?</p>
<p>&#8220;2) What was the name that Plame used undercover? YOU DON&#8217;T KNOW DO YOU?<br />
3) Her picture is worth a 1,000 words and she had her picture on the cover of Vanity Fair before she was supposedly &#8220;outed&#8221;. People could&#8217;ve identified her purely from her picture and inside story.&#8221;</p>
<p>Its not her name or her picture which are secret, but the fact that she was a CIA agent when she was pretending to work for her non-official cover company &#8212; under whatever name or picture she had.</p>
<p>Is such a simple matter of national security so hard to understand?</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/31/fired-up/comment-page-1/#comment-46865</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 17:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian wrote, &quot;How do you know whether or not revealing Valerie Plame&#039;s identity hurt our national security?&quot;

1) Who revealed Plame&#039;s identity to the public? Reporters
2) What was the name that Plame used undercover? YOU DON&#039;T KNOW DO YOU?
3) Her picture is worth a 1,000 words and she had her picture on the cover of Vanity Fair before she was supposedly &quot;outed&quot;. People could&#039;ve identified her purely from her picture and inside story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian wrote, &#8220;How do you know whether or not revealing Valerie Plame&#8217;s identity hurt our national security?&#8221;</p>
<p>1) Who revealed Plame&#8217;s identity to the public? Reporters<br />
2) What was the name that Plame used undercover? YOU DON&#8217;T KNOW DO YOU?<br />
3) Her picture is worth a 1,000 words and she had her picture on the cover of Vanity Fair before she was supposedly &#8220;outed&#8221;. People could&#8217;ve identified her purely from her picture and inside story.</p>
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		<title>By: PCD</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/31/fired-up/comment-page-1/#comment-46723</link>
		<dc:creator>PCD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 14:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian,

Your lack of logical reasoning is appalling.  You attack, attack, and attack, but you never refute any real facts, just more manure agaist the wall is your only tactic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>Your lack of logical reasoning is appalling.  You attack, attack, and attack, but you never refute any real facts, just more manure agaist the wall is your only tactic.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/31/fired-up/comment-page-1/#comment-46721</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 13:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2005/10/before-novak-joe-wilson-speech-that.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gateway Pundit&lt;/a&gt; has some good stuff on Wilson BEFORE the op-ed ever came out.  Looks like old Joe might have outed his wife on his own. (Hat tip: &lt;a href=&quot;http://instapundit.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Instapundit&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2005/10/before-novak-joe-wilson-speech-that.html" rel="nofollow">Gateway Pundit</a> has some good stuff on Wilson BEFORE the op-ed ever came out.  Looks like old Joe might have outed his wife on his own. (Hat tip: <a href="http://instapundit.com" rel="nofollow">Instapundit</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Aidan Maconachy</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/31/fired-up/comment-page-1/#comment-46717</link>
		<dc:creator>Aidan Maconachy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 08:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this affair is getting hyped to the max on MSM, but I think think it is minor league stuff. I bet even her hairdresser and Starbucks server knew she was a spook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this affair is getting hyped to the max on MSM, but I think think it is minor league stuff. I bet even her hairdresser and Starbucks server knew she was a spook.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/31/fired-up/comment-page-1/#comment-46716</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 07:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sister Toldjah,

How do you know whether or not revealing Valerie Plame&#039;s identity hurt our national security?  On 60 minutes, former CIA agents came out and publicly stated that disclosing her identity did seriously damage our national security.  How are you more qualified than those former CIA agents to determine this?

Joe Scarborough also called for Karl Rove to be fired after it became known that he was the one who revealed her identity.  Joe said if someone on his staff did this, he would have fired them immediately.  Are you also fired up at Joe Scarborough?

If revealing Valerie Plame&#039;s identity wasn&#039;t a big deal, why didn&#039;t Ari Fleischer do it?  He knew her identity but he did not reveal it when trying to refute Joe Wilson&#039;s accusations.

http://www.slate.com/id/2129097/?nav=tap3

More astonishingly, we learn from the Fitzgerald indictment that Ari Fleischer knew about Plame and didn&#039;t tell anyone at all. He walked reporters, including me, up to the fact, suggesting they look into who sent Wilson, but never used her name or talked about her position. Why not?  It certainly would have been helpful for him at the time. His colleagues were savaging him at the time for bungling the response to Wilson&#039;s July 6 New York Times opinion piece. They blamed him for not sufficiently refuting the article. By leaking the Plame information, Fleischer could have discredited Wilson, muddied the story, and won back the affection of his complaining colleagues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sister Toldjah,</p>
<p>How do you know whether or not revealing Valerie Plame&#8217;s identity hurt our national security?  On 60 minutes, former CIA agents came out and publicly stated that disclosing her identity did seriously damage our national security.  How are you more qualified than those former CIA agents to determine this?</p>
<p>Joe Scarborough also called for Karl Rove to be fired after it became known that he was the one who revealed her identity.  Joe said if someone on his staff did this, he would have fired them immediately.  Are you also fired up at Joe Scarborough?</p>
<p>If revealing Valerie Plame&#8217;s identity wasn&#8217;t a big deal, why didn&#8217;t Ari Fleischer do it?  He knew her identity but he did not reveal it when trying to refute Joe Wilson&#8217;s accusations.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2129097/?nav=tap3" rel="nofollow">http://www.slate.com/id/2129097/?nav=tap3</a></p>
<p>More astonishingly, we learn from the Fitzgerald indictment that Ari Fleischer knew about Plame and didn&#8217;t tell anyone at all. He walked reporters, including me, up to the fact, suggesting they look into who sent Wilson, but never used her name or talked about her position. Why not?  It certainly would have been helpful for him at the time. His colleagues were savaging him at the time for bungling the response to Wilson&#8217;s July 6 New York Times opinion piece. They blamed him for not sufficiently refuting the article. By leaking the Plame information, Fleischer could have discredited Wilson, muddied the story, and won back the affection of his complaining colleagues.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/31/fired-up/comment-page-1/#comment-46702</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 01:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Brad:&lt;/strong&gt; I agree! Have linked up to them both often on the Joe Wilson/Plamegate stuff.  Maguire has been a blogging machine about it.  His blog was the first I checked once I heard about the Libby indictments.

&lt;strong&gt;El C and Kevin:&lt;/strong&gt; GMADB=&lt;strong&gt;G&lt;/strong&gt;ive &lt;strong&gt;M&lt;/strong&gt;e &lt;strong&gt;A&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;D&lt;/strong&gt;--n &lt;strong&gt;B&lt;/strong&gt;reak. It&#039;s a slightly modified version of the GMAFB that I&#039;ve seen posted at some other places :grin:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Brad:</strong> I agree! Have linked up to them both often on the Joe Wilson/Plamegate stuff.  Maguire has been a blogging machine about it.  His blog was the first I checked once I heard about the Libby indictments.</p>
<p><strong>El C and Kevin:</strong> GMADB=<strong>G</strong>ive <strong>M</strong>e <strong>A</strong> <strong>D</strong>&#8211;n <strong>B</strong>reak. It&#8217;s a slightly modified version of the GMAFB that I&#8217;ve seen posted at some other places <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':grin:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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