I get that you will continue to incorrectly attack Bill and myself just as you’ve done others in other threads. It’s a common trait of liberals.

Though I have seen conservatives attack others incorrectly (though not as often). Why must you put people on the defensive and have them explain theirselves to you Norah?

I am going to do my best to police the comments section but again to repeat to all: I am trusting you to police yourselves. I cannot catch everything. Keep in mind there are also times when I may not think that something is a personal attack that someone else does.

They are shirking their oblgations and are very unpatriotic, as you seem to be.

Hear that, ST? Sounds like an ad-hom.

I believe in the democratic process, which is what decided these new policies in SF. If you think that makes me “unpatriotic”, then one of us is pledging allegiance to the wrong country. (And it ain’t me.)

Baklava:

Norah wrote incorrectly, “and to invite AQ to come and blow it up is utterly reprehensible

Nobody did that.

Yes, actually, Bill O’Reilly did that. And several people here defended what he did.

And, sorry, but that’s a terrible analogy. Are the taxpayers contributing to the neighbor’s faulty AC unit, thus giving him a right to expect that someone will help him if it breaks down? And if he comes to his neighbor with the savings and asks to borrow a fan, will the guy say “Screw you. I don’t care if it is 101 in the shade, it’s your own fault”?

Once again, the military is not “banned” from setting foot in SF, only discouraged from actively recruiting high school kids. Not everyone voted for that resolution. Nobody is being prevented from joining. SF taxpayer money is still being shoveled into Iraq by the billions. So for you people to say they should all burn if the terrorists come and it’s their own fault anyway is morally reprehensible.

Do you get it yet?

Then remove all people representing all careers on career day. Don’t single out one profession. As you said… Kids are there to learn.

Norah wrote incorrectly, “and to invite AQ to come and blow it up is utterly reprehensible

Nobody did that.

It would be like this. Someone who saves 10% of their money every paycheck viewing a neighbor who doesn’t save anything and lives paycheck to paycheck. He/She remarks, “they will have a hard time when their A/C unit goes kaput”. That’s not wishing that their A/C unit goes kaput or wanting them to have a hard time. The analogy isn’t exact but it points out what you are stating that people want or wish and you don’t know what people want or wish. It isn’t possible. In fact you are incorrectlly attributing wants and wishes to me so I know 100% that you are incorrect.

It’s very simple: a majority of their citizens voted against firearms, and to encourage schools not to allow military recruiters. Not to “ban” the military, not to “forbid” people from joining it if they so choose, but to remove the military presence from classrooms. I don’t happen to think it belongs there, either. Kids are there to learn, and the voters are saying, if they want to be all that they can be, they can seek out the recruiting office on their own time.

SF is an American city (has this point gotten through to you yet?) and to invite AQ to come and blow it up is utterly reprehensible. In effect, you’re saying that people who don’t share your political philosophies deserve to die. And if it really happens, I hope for your sake that there is no God.

Why do you hate America Norah? No need to answer that.

If a concrete step towards peace was determined by a leftist to be unilateral disarmament should we take that step or if we didn’t take that step would we be accused by leftists as not wanting peace?

What would the result of unilateral disarmament be Norah? Would it be peace or would it lead towards our quick destruction.

Soooo… Peace as defined by a liberal is those who are evil winning…. And yes, I do consider that America is good and the people who want the infidel to convert or die is evil. Islamists (not peace loving Muslims) need to learn to coexist with the rest of the world. Additionally, we have the right to defend ourselves in order to attempt to keep the peace.

SF wanting to shun our military is not helpful towards having peace. It actually makes the enemy think that their game plan is working and might egg them on even more to attack us as they think we are this close “” towards surrender.

San Fransisco is America. Texas is America. Boston and New York are America, so are Cedar Rapids and Topeka.

Why do you guys hate America?

A story like this couldn’t have happened in San Francisco, because the crooks can no longer own guns there!

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So what are you suggesting as a response to 9/11? A trial? Legal action? A fine levied on Saudi Arabia?

Steve wrote, “After any violent death my first reaction is why? They’ve answered that question Steve. What do you think the Islamists answer to that is? (I know you are new so beware that Islamist is not just someone is is a Muslim or practices Islam – get to the answer)

Steve lied again by writing, “bush made a mistake by illegally invading Iraq What law was broken I asked? You never answered above. Why was that action illegal in your eyes? Are the 30 countries that accompanied us breaking the law also?

Steve wrote without perspective, “For both groups the fight is the thing and without the fight there is nothing. Before we engaged there was 9/11. What would’ve been you response to 9/11? If you stop fighting and a guy keeps hitting your face what do you do? How do you remove the fight when the other party doesn’t allow the fight to be removed? It only takes one to have a fight!

Steve wrote, “By staying in Iraq the US becomes the enemy. If the fight isn’t removed, yet we leave Iraq, what happens to the peace loving people in Iraq that want Democracy (purple thumbs) the day after we pull out? (be honest)

- Bang

While there is evil that must be triumphed over it is fine to act peacefully or choose non-violence but there are plenty of times when force or violence is necessary to stop good people from perishing.

Let’s bring it closer to home. Let’s say you were witnessing my children being hurt/killed (I’m using my children so you don’t think I’m attacking you), if your words are failing to stop the attacker – what are you to do? Do you use force to stop my children from being hurt/killed?

My opinion is that you need to read Dennis Prager’s take on Pacificism. His take is that pacificism is evil. It is worse than someone choosing vegetarianism because vegetarianism only hurts that person but pacificism allows others to get hurt. I’m paraphrasing but you really should seek his work. He is a man of God also. There are plenty others who talk about Jesus wasn’t teaching those in a position of leadership to offer another cheek in the sense that if someone kills someone you offer the killer another one of your peoples. The passage about turning your other cheek was concerning YOUR OWN BODY and not what a LEADER should do.

I pray that Democrats and liberals like yourself do not get into national power any time soon with your attitude.