Comments on: Past presidents and the NSA http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/ Don't dis or dismiss this miss! Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:23:12 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: PCD http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/comment-page-1/#comment-251265 PCD Tue, 04 Jul 2006 17:36:24 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/#comment-251265 Carl, Don't you have a national secret to publicize or try to surrender the country to the Islamofascists? Carl,

Don’t you have a national secret to publicize or try to surrender the country to the Islamofascists?

]]> By: G-Monster http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/comment-page-1/#comment-249384 G-Monster Tue, 04 Jul 2006 03:51:42 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/#comment-249384 Who let the liberals in? OMG, I'm gone 2 days, and there are a bunch of crazy lefties posting all over this board. Who let the liberals in? OMG, I’m gone 2 days, and there are a bunch of crazy lefties posting all over this board.

]]> By: Carl Sperr http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/comment-page-1/#comment-248118 Carl Sperr Mon, 03 Jul 2006 17:36:41 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/#comment-248118 Also you right-wingers were too busy impeaching Clinton for a blow job why worry about spying? Also you right-wingers were too busy impeaching Clinton for a blow job why worry about spying?

]]> By: Carl Sperr http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/comment-page-1/#comment-248104 Carl Sperr Mon, 03 Jul 2006 17:34:46 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/#comment-248104 Also, examine section 2 of Clinton's executive order carefully. It says the Attorney General is authorized to approve applications to the foreign intelligence surveillance court. Bush has NEVER MADE any such application. Sec. 2. Pursuant to section 302(b) of the Act, the Attorney General is authorized to approve applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court under section 303 of the Act to obtain orders for physical searches for the purpose of collecting foreign intelligence information. Also, examine section 2 of Clinton’s executive order carefully. It says the Attorney General is authorized to approve applications to the foreign intelligence surveillance court. Bush has NEVER MADE any such application.

Sec. 2. Pursuant to section 302(b) of the Act, the Attorney
General is authorized to approve applications to the Foreign
Intelligence Surveillance Court under section 303 of the Act to obtain
orders for physical searches for the purpose of collecting foreign
intelligence information.

]]> By: Carl Sperr http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/comment-page-1/#comment-248046 Carl Sperr Mon, 03 Jul 2006 17:20:49 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/#comment-248046 You make the accusation that Carter and Clinton did the same as Bush concerning electronic eavesdropping. However if you read carefully the executive orders of Clinton and Carter both say WITH THE ADVICE AND CONSENT OF THE SENATE. That is the big difference. Bush deliberately tried to HIDE his surveillance orders from any other government agency. That is the big difference here. You make the accusation that Carter and Clinton did the same as Bush concerning electronic eavesdropping. However if you read carefully the executive orders of Clinton and Carter both say WITH THE ADVICE AND CONSENT OF THE SENATE. That is the big difference. Bush deliberately tried to HIDE his surveillance orders from any other government agency. That is the big difference here.

]]> By: ken 2 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/comment-page-1/#comment-68537 ken 2 Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:44:49 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/#comment-68537 I wish this administration was as honest and pure as the clinton years, hahahah if only they had a few dead bodies and suicides to cover up.:-?:-?:-?:-?:-? I wish this administration was as honest and pure as the clinton years, hahahah

if only they had a few dead bodies and suicides to cover up.:-?:-?:-?:-?:-?

]]> By: andrew http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/comment-page-1/#comment-62380 andrew Sat, 24 Dec 2005 21:56:25 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/#comment-62380 "andrew, no, it is not true. You just don't have any true facts reported by other than moonbats on DU, Daily Krap, and the like." you didn't find any grover norquist quotes? http://www.atr.org/national/kstreet/ that's the website of the project. at americans for tax reform, a right wing organization. “andrew, no, it is not true. You just don’t have any true facts reported by other than moonbats on DU, Daily Krap, and the like.”

you didn’t find any grover norquist quotes?

http://www.atr.org/national/kstreet/

that’s the website of the project. at americans for tax reform, a right wing organization.

]]> By: Sister Toldjah http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/comment-page-1/#comment-62043 Sister Toldjah Fri, 23 Dec 2005 19:55:24 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/#comment-62043 Andrew, considering how you frequently shoot the messenger here, I wouldn't be complaining about it when it's turned around on you.:> Andrew, considering how you frequently shoot the messenger here, I wouldn’t be complaining about it when it’s turned around on you.:>

]]> By: PCD http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/comment-page-1/#comment-62040 PCD Fri, 23 Dec 2005 19:51:56 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/#comment-62040 andrew, no, it is not true. You just don't have any true facts reported by other than moonbats on DU, Daily Krap, and the like. andrew, no, it is not true. You just don’t have any true facts reported by other than moonbats on DU, Daily Krap, and the like.

]]> By: andrew http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/comment-page-1/#comment-62035 andrew Fri, 23 Dec 2005 18:46:02 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/#comment-62035 "It's not a secret. It's also untrue. " Google it. Tom DeLay is proud of it. Its a big victory and an accomplishment of the GOP powerhouse that its integrating itself into washington and pushing the dems out of governance. Its not a secret and in fact its touted by the likes of Norquist etc... You're just ready to disbelieve it because its me saying it. Its typical shoot the messenger. “It’s not a secret. It’s also untrue. ”

Google it. Tom DeLay is proud of it. Its a big victory and an accomplishment of the GOP powerhouse that its integrating itself into washington and pushing the dems out of governance. Its not a secret and in fact its touted by the likes of Norquist etc…

You’re just ready to disbelieve it because its me saying it. Its typical shoot the messenger.

]]> By: PCD http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/comment-page-1/#comment-61614 PCD Thu, 22 Dec 2005 13:37:59 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/#comment-61614 The Junkyardblog has a good write up on the whole issue. Of course our lefties won't consider is because it doesn't convict Bush without a trial as the lefties try to do with every accusation. http://junkyardblog.net/scgi-bin/mt-tb.cgi/5193 <em>PCD, the link doesn't work. If this is the link to his posting of the Chicago Tribune article, I posted a link to the article in my most recent post about this issue. --ST</em> The Junkyardblog has a good write up on the whole issue. Of course our lefties won’t consider is because it doesn’t convict Bush without a trial as the lefties try to do with every accusation.

http://junkyardblog.net/scgi-bin/mt-tb.cgi/5193

PCD, the link doesn’t work. If this is the link to his posting of the Chicago Tribune article, I posted a link to the article in my most recent post about this issue. –ST

]]> By: Kevin http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/comment-page-1/#comment-61451 Kevin Wed, 21 Dec 2005 23:08:31 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/#comment-61451 I don't follow you Ken. There is very little to indicate that Clinton bypassed FISA, you say? You mean other than signing an executive order saying, "the Attorney General is authorized to approve physical searches, without a court order"? I have no idea if he used this or not. But he certainly understood the importance of being able to, or he would not have signed it. And we have to keep in mind that this is not spying on ordinary people. These people are having late night chit-chats with terrorists. If he used this to spy on political enemies or something, that would be despicable. But not even <i>Ted Kennedy</i> is suggesting that. I don’t follow you Ken. There is very little to indicate that Clinton bypassed FISA, you say? You mean other than signing an executive order saying, “the
Attorney General is authorized to approve physical searches, without a
court order”?

I have no idea if he used this or not. But he certainly understood the importance of being able to, or he would not have signed it. And we have to keep in mind that this is not spying on ordinary people. These people are having late night chit-chats with terrorists.

If he used this to spy on political enemies or something, that would be despicable. But not even Ted Kennedy is suggesting that.

]]> By: Kenwg http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/comment-page-1/#comment-61445 Kenwg Wed, 21 Dec 2005 21:17:38 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/#comment-61445 ST, Yous said "So we're supposed to take the word of George Tenet (as you have) but not take the word of the President? Mighty thin rebuttal, Ken. " I have to admit I don't fully trust Tenet's veracity - I suspect he's too willing to say whatever his current boss wants to hear. And I'm not comfortable with the type of Electronic evesdropping that the Clinton Admin engaged in. But the rest of my post stands - there's very little to indicate that Clinton or Carter went as far as GWB has, or bypassing FISA and so forth. I guess my point is that the comparison between Bush on the one hand and Carter/Clinton on this issue is a weak one. Ken G. ST,

Yous said “So we’re supposed to take the word of George Tenet (as you have) but not take the word of the President? Mighty thin rebuttal, Ken. ”

I have to admit I don’t fully trust Tenet’s veracity – I suspect he’s too willing to say whatever his current boss wants to hear. And I’m not comfortable with the type of Electronic evesdropping that the Clinton Admin engaged in.

But the rest of my post stands – there’s very little to indicate that Clinton or Carter went as far as GWB has, or bypassing FISA and so forth. I guess my point is that the comparison between Bush on the one hand and Carter/Clinton on this issue is a weak one.

Ken G.

]]> By: PCD http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/comment-page-1/#comment-61394 PCD Wed, 21 Dec 2005 19:18:53 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/#comment-61394 Andrew, you'll swallow anything won't you? Andrew, you’ll swallow anything won’t you?

]]> By: Sister Toldjah http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/comment-page-1/#comment-61372 Sister Toldjah Wed, 21 Dec 2005 19:02:23 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/12/20/past-presidents-and-the-nsa/#comment-61372 Thanks Dana - I corrected it. Thanks Dana – I corrected it.

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