Comments on: Candor from a hardcore anti-war leftist

By: GBA

GBA — Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:52:10 +0000

Who bashed Bush?
I didn’t.
What are you talking about?

By: PCD

PCD — Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:28:55 +0000

GBA, Joel Stein is an idiot. He gets paid for his misinformed opinion. He asked for the grief and he’s getting some of what he richly deserves.

I think both you and Stein had really rethink your position, especially if you travel outside the country. Why? Um, could it be that maybe Islamofascists would like to make a propaganda event out of beheading you rather than joining you in a Bush Bash?

By: GBA

GBA — Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:04:19 +0000

While most may despise this view. Mr. Stein made some interesting observations.

Why do people buy “support the troops” paraphanalia that is made in China?

Isn’t this like funding the ultimate enemy of democracy? Way to go soccer mom for making communism that much stronger.

How can anyone support U.S. troops by giving over their dollars to the a communist regime?

Besides mutilating, torturing “ULC’s” and raping Iraqi women detainees by US personell isn’t exactly a proud moment for those who want to support the troops.

Personally for myself I don’t condone raping women for any reason. I would never torture another human for any reason or for anyone. It’s just not my style. But alot of Americans think it’s a cool thing to do if there may be even the slightest possibility of gathering intelligence.

Myself my biggest problem with Iraq/Afghanistan/GWOT is not so much the low level of moral conscienciousness. But the outrageous efforts made by our executive branch to conceal the monetary accounting of war. Is Iraq really worth this much cash? Outside of robbing them of their oil they really have nothing to offer. What’s with all the American mercenaries in Iraq? Why all the contractors? Are we actually outsourcing a war?

I think that US servicemen and women are the finest on the planet. And most of the functions that are contracted can be done by our miltary for less money and done far better.

By: PCD

PCD — Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:50:03 +0000

Blogagog, I’ve seen the pictures Da Goddess and Civilian Smash put up from the Protest Warrior events in San Diego. They have the Libs so on the run, the ACLU sent out their Green Vested goons to try intimidating people.

By: blogagog

blogagog — Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:07:23 +0000

Yay Wordsmith! I feel the same way, but could not articulate it as well as you. In an interesting side note, Code Pink forgot to renew their license to protest in front of Walter Reed, and the Protest Warriors applied and received the ok to occupy their corner of the entrance! Code Pink is still protesting around the corner, but at least our wounded soldiers can't see them anymore. The Protest Warriors rock. I strongly suggest you download some of ther videos to see what we are up against. The other side is definitely not peaceful.

By: wordsmith

wordsmith — Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:30:17 +0000

I’m with blogagog, in his assessment of this.

I think Michelle Malkin and Hugh Hewitt kind of missed the boat on this one. Sure Joel Stein’s opinion (or lack of it) is sad and ignorant;but he is just one opinionist out of a sea of many, and not worth picking apart. What is refreshing is that he is able to admit what others of his ilk are afraid to: that he doesn’t really support the troops. And that was the whole point of his article, which seems to have been lost in all this.

Dennis Prager and Michael Medved both saw the article for what it is: a gift to those on the right of this war. Those who say they support the troops but not their mission need to reexamine whether or not they truly do support the troops or are just saying that, to not be exposed the way Joel Stein has exposed himself. Wanting to bring the troops home is something we all want. But how does Code Pink protesting in front of Walter Reed…how exactly does that support the troops? How does John Murtha saying he wouldn’t enlist in today’s military…how does that support the troops? They may care about the soldiers and want them home safe. But that’s different than being supportive of them.

By: US Vet

US Vet — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 21:07:04 +0000

And what does the Zen Buddhist formula Peace say when you are attacked by someone wanting to kill you?

By: steve

steve — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:33:15 +0000

When I eat, I eat. When I sleep, I sleep. Zen Buddhist formula Peace

By: US Vet

US Vet — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:08:06 +0000

JAH,
I like that, very nice!!

By: JAH

JAH — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:01:28 +0000

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling, which thinks that nothing is worth war, is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertion of better men than himself.

John Stuart Mill

By: Severian

Severian — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:05:14 +0000

Steve’s showing us what he really believes in. More oil, and who cares if people are dying or suffering, as long as his oil is cheap.

By: US Vet

US Vet — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:03:25 +0000

Steve, do you really know what you are talking about??? You sound like you are one of those “Bush lied, people died”, “No Blood for Oil” types. You want to say we are fighting the war so Bush and his buddies can get their hands on the oil, but as PCD points out using your words, you are just repeating the tired diatribe of the left.
If oil production is down as you say, then it is because your friends, the brave terrorists, are the cause. Not only are they attacking and killing Iraqi civilians at an increasing rate, they are attacking the oil production facilities as well. Since you seem so worried about the drop in production, maybe you can ask your friends, the brave terrorist, to stop attacking the facilities.

By: PCD

PCD — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:28:16 +0000

steve, I thought you said Bush was stealing the oil. If that is so, why is production going down?

By: steve

steve — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:21:01 +0000

Oil production in Iraq dropped 8% in 2005. Your doing a heck of a job bushie. Peace

By: US Vet

US Vet — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:43:48 +0000

I also wanted to address those who agree that the troops like fighting. What a shame that someone can be so simple minded. As a former troop who has fought, I can tell you first hand, the troops don’t like it.
The troops are true patriots and believe in this country and what it stands for. The believe in the President as their Commander. The believe in protecting the American people and the American why of life. The believe in their families and your family. When you believe in this and much more, sometimes you have to do things you don’t like….like fighting a war. But when called upon to do so, you do it with all the strength and courage you can muster. You rely on and trust your buddies (male and female) who stand on the battlefield with you. Just remember though, when you look at the average American on the battlefield, he/she is probably in the 19 -22 age range. Next time you are out and about, take a good look around at what the kids in that same age group who at here in the US enjoying their lives are doing. Then think about those on the battlefield and then tell me they are there because they like it. Bulls*** I say. But you will have to admit those on the battlefield are great patriotic Americans.
Now to address the issue of “the sooner we lose, lives will be saved”. That is just plain crazy. It is actually just the opposite. Where were we fighting them when terrorists flew civilian jetliners into the WTC? If we lose and withdraw from the battlefield, the terrorists will see it as a sign of weakness and will again bring the fight to the US, but this time it will be in our shopping malls. We must press the fight to the terrorists no matter where the decide to hide. If we can draw all the terrorists to Iraq to fight, sobeit, kill them all in Iraq.