Comments on: Class act from a liberal cartoonist http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/ Don't dis or dismiss this miss! Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:37:49 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Big Bang Hunter http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/comment-page-1/#comment-74745 Big Bang Hunter Fri, 03 Feb 2006 18:28:23 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/#comment-74745 - Actually, save for a number of obvious Bush hating obsessed writers, the majority of journalists in the so-called biased MSM are simply writing to inflame the people who are most likely to spend "emotion bucks". Controversy sells, and the more outlandish and contra-conservative the better it sells. If you're going to go for the compulsive crowd, you go for the stressed out group, fighting to get back in power. Which means the purpose behind cartoons of this sort is even more insensitive and baseless than they may seem to people they denigrate. This segment of the press/TV are intimately familiar with the credos of the left, and pander to that crowd just for the sake of the bottom line, much the same as what blogs like Daily Kos does, banking on the emotional confusion and personal issues of its flock for the sake of hits on the visit counter. Free enterprise in action... - Bang **== - Actually, save for a number of obvious Bush hating obsessed writers, the majority of journalists in the so-called biased MSM are simply writing to inflame the people who are most likely to spend “emotion bucks”. Controversy sells, and the more outlandish and contra-conservative the better it sells. If you’re going to go for the compulsive crowd, you go for the stressed out group, fighting to get back in power. Which means the purpose behind cartoons of this sort is even more insensitive and baseless than they may seem to people they denigrate. This segment of the press/TV are intimately familiar with the credos of the left, and pander to that crowd just for the sake of the bottom line, much the same as what blogs like Daily Kos does, banking on the emotional confusion and personal issues of its flock for the sake of hits on the visit counter. Free enterprise in action…

- Bang **==

]]> By: blogagog http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/comment-page-1/#comment-74706 blogagog Fri, 03 Feb 2006 16:11:50 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/#comment-74706 Jeff, Don't you guys think that conservatives are trying to enforce abstinence? That's what that line in my parody of your post meant. I assumed you were just being funny, so I attempted to add to the humor. "…because the MSM hates America and wants to destroy Christmas and loves the terrorists." I don't believe your statement is accurate. The MSM only hates Republicans and other conservatives as far as I know. Jeff, Don’t you guys think that conservatives are trying to enforce abstinence? That’s what that line in my parody of your post meant. I assumed you were just being funny, so I attempted to add to the humor.

“…because the MSM hates America and wants to destroy Christmas and loves the terrorists.”

I don’t believe your statement is accurate. The MSM only hates Republicans and other conservatives as far as I know.

]]> By: omapian http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/comment-page-1/#comment-74702 omapian Fri, 03 Feb 2006 15:36:23 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/#comment-74702 It amazes me that one tasteless cartoon can produce so many personal attacks. Granted that two people may draw different conclusions, and noting the range of conclusions drawn by a wide variety of observers, whatever 'point' was attempted failed to produce a clear result. Those who may claim it was intended to provoke thought, must admit the 'toon appealed to emotions, not reason. Had the victim been bandaged, head to toe, in a body cast, or in a body bag, the Army would have been the clear target of the drawing. By drawing an amputee, (and ignoring the fact that the victim may have been proud of his service) the cartoon drew attention to the victim and ridiculed his sacrifice. Note that there would be far less outrage if this was in the foreign press, where one expects an attack on American values. We may not always like it, but our troops protect those who despise democratic values. It amazes me that one tasteless cartoon can produce so many personal attacks.
Granted that two people may draw different conclusions, and noting the range of conclusions drawn by a wide variety of observers, whatever ‘point’ was attempted failed to produce a clear result.
Those who may claim it was intended to provoke thought, must admit the ‘toon appealed to emotions, not reason. Had the victim been bandaged, head to toe, in a body cast, or in a body bag, the Army would have been the clear target of the drawing. By drawing an amputee, (and ignoring the fact that the victim may have been proud of his service) the cartoon drew attention to the victim and ridiculed his sacrifice.
Note that there would be far less outrage if this was in the foreign press, where one expects an attack on American values. We may not always like it, but our troops protect those who despise democratic values.

]]> By: jeff http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/comment-page-1/#comment-74697 jeff Fri, 03 Feb 2006 15:17:08 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/#comment-74697 "I didn't know that the Post favored the war. Good for them! I did too. I assumed they just supported the usual anti-war idiocy..." ...because the MSM hates America and wants to destroy Christmas and loves the terrorists. By the way, WTF does this even mean: ..."and force them to not have sex."? “I didn’t know that the Post favored the war. Good for them! I did too. I assumed they just supported the usual anti-war idiocy…”

…because the MSM hates America and wants to destroy Christmas and loves the terrorists.

By the way, WTF does this even mean: …”and force them to not have sex.”?

]]> By: blogagog http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/comment-page-1/#comment-74693 blogagog Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:53:22 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/#comment-74693 I didn't know that the Post favored the war. Good for them! I did too. I assumed they just supported the usual anti-war idiocy. I didn’t know that the Post favored the war. Good for them! I did too. I assumed they just supported the usual anti-war idiocy.

]]> By: andrew http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/comment-page-1/#comment-74684 andrew Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:33:18 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/#comment-74684 " There HAS to be a conspiracy out there, plotting against them, holding them back, trying to force religion on them, steal all of their money to give to oil companies, and force them to not have sex, or else…what are they whining for?" Its not conspiracy that the Post favored the war. Just the usual pro-war idiocy. ” There HAS to be a conspiracy out there, plotting against them, holding them back, trying to force religion on them, steal all of their money to give to oil companies, and force them to not have sex, or else…what are they whining for?”

Its not conspiracy that the Post favored the war. Just the usual pro-war idiocy.

]]> By: blogagog http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/comment-page-1/#comment-74678 blogagog Fri, 03 Feb 2006 13:35:46 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/#comment-74678 I have to come clean. My previous post was somewhat plagiarized. I have to come clean. My previous post was somewhat plagiarized.

]]> By: blogagog http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/comment-page-1/#comment-74677 blogagog Fri, 03 Feb 2006 13:34:01 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/#comment-74677 You'll never win, Big Bang Hunter. They need this "Iraq was for nothing" argument so bad, they'll never let it go. They have to be the victims of some vast conservative/corporate/theocratic conspiracy or everything else they've built up in their heads will just crumble. There HAS to be a conspiracy out there, plotting against them, holding them back, trying to force religion on them, steal all of their money to give to oil companies, and force them to not have sex, or else…what are they whining for? You’ll never win, Big Bang Hunter. They need this “Iraq was for nothing” argument so bad, they’ll never let it go. They have to be the victims of some vast conservative/corporate/theocratic conspiracy or everything else they’ve built up in their heads will just crumble. There HAS to be a conspiracy out there, plotting against them, holding them back, trying to force religion on them, steal all of their money to give to oil companies, and force them to not have sex, or else…what are they whining for?

]]> By: jeff http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/comment-page-1/#comment-74668 jeff Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:00:46 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/#comment-74668 You'll never win, andrew. They need this "boogeyman" argument so bad, they'll never let it go. They have to be the victims of some vast liberal mainstream media bias or everything else they've built up in their heads will just crumble. There HAS to be a liberal media out there, plotting against them, holding them back, trying to abort their babies on the secular holiday that used to be christmas, or else...what are they fighting for? You’ll never win, andrew. They need this “boogeyman” argument so bad, they’ll never let it go. They have to be the victims of some vast liberal mainstream media bias or everything else they’ve built up in their heads will just crumble. There HAS to be a liberal media out there, plotting against them, holding them back, trying to abort their babies on the secular holiday that used to be christmas, or else…what are they fighting for?

]]> By: andrew http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/comment-page-1/#comment-74638 andrew Fri, 03 Feb 2006 08:17:26 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/#comment-74638 "Andrew…. How old are you?…I think you'll find that most "editors" on major newspapers got to be editors by being journalist/writers first. As the typical leftist debater is want to do, you're wandering off point." The point i'm making is that the editors (who thanks to you were journalists first) took the editorial position that the US should invade iraq. No need to argue abu gonzales conspiracies. Nothing. They flat out said it. “Andrew…. How old are you?…I think you’ll find that most “editors” on major newspapers got to be editors by being journalist/writers first. As the typical leftist debater is want to do, you’re wandering off point.”

The point i’m making is that the editors (who thanks to you were journalists first) took the editorial position that the US should invade iraq.

No need to argue abu gonzales conspiracies. Nothing. They flat out said it.

]]> By: Big Bang Hunter http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/comment-page-1/#comment-74610 Big Bang Hunter Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:33:21 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/#comment-74610 - Andrew.... How old are you?...I think you'll find that most "editors" on major newspapers got to be editors by being journalist/writers first. As the typical leftist debater is want to do, you're wandering off point. - The point is the left enjoys the support of the truculent, alarmist, pravaracation riddled, hatchet job articles, eminating from a long list of obviously biased MSM sources, and writers. The left and their press/TV lackies have raised misrepresentation to an art form. - That is the "whatever"... - Bang **== - Andrew…. How old are you?…I think you’ll find that most “editors” on major newspapers got to be editors by being journalist/writers first. As the typical leftist debater is want to do, you’re wandering off point.

- The point is the left enjoys the support of the truculent, alarmist, pravaracation riddled, hatchet job articles, eminating from a long list of obviously biased MSM sources, and writers. The left and their press/TV lackies have raised misrepresentation to an art form.

- That is the “whatever”…

- Bang **==

]]> By: andrew http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/comment-page-1/#comment-74600 andrew Fri, 03 Feb 2006 03:58:24 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/#comment-74600 "Which proves what exactly? If you don't know Andrew I'll inform you. The Wapo does have a a few non-Liberal writers." Not writers. An Editorial. The voice of the editorial board of the paper. "ou really don't want to go there Andrew. There isn't enough room on this, and several other blogs, to document the wild, baseless accusations and attacks on Bush and his administration, all left wing Op-Ed pieces written under the guise of "news"." Whatever. The point is on the war? The Post basically said 'lets roll into iraq.' “Which proves what exactly? If you don’t know Andrew I’ll inform you. The Wapo does have a a few non-Liberal writers.”

Not writers. An Editorial. The voice of the editorial board of the paper.

“ou really don’t want to go there Andrew. There isn’t enough room on this, and several other blogs, to document the wild, baseless accusations and attacks on Bush and his administration, all left wing Op-Ed pieces written under the guise of “news”.”

Whatever. The point is on the war? The Post basically said ‘lets roll into iraq.’

]]> By: Big Bang Hunter http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/comment-page-1/#comment-74583 Big Bang Hunter Fri, 03 Feb 2006 02:41:14 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/#comment-74583 <i>"The post editorialized in favor of the war. Out indeed."</i> Which proves what exactly? If you don't know Andrew I'll inform you. The Wapo does have a a few non-Liberal writers. So lets see. I guess that example is ment to offset 39 straight days of front page coverage of Abu Graibe, which as it turns out, envolved a handfull of unsupervised, or poorly supervised people out of 140,000+ troops on the ground. Right. Check. When the checks from Soros dry up, the NYTrash will be history. You really don't want to go there Andrew. There isn't enough room on this, and several other blogs, to document the wild, baseless accusations and attacks on Bush and his administration, all left wing Op-Ed pieces written under the guise of "news". Worse, most containing outright unfounded, or un-sourced, blantant lies. - Rather, Mapes, and the DNC thought they were big enough and important enough to take a bundle of phony memo's that the fenatical writer had been shopping around for years, and run a scam on the public right in the middle of a presidential campaign. Unfortunately they weren't aware they were backing a guy who shot himself in the ass twice with gernade launchers, and gave himself medals for it. - I don't begrudge your propaganda rags. I find it amusing you keep denying the obvious. That is certainly "feckless", and pitiful denial politics. - Bang **== “The post editorialized in favor of the war. Out indeed.”

Which proves what exactly? If you don’t know Andrew I’ll inform you. The Wapo does have a a few non-Liberal writers.

So lets see. I guess that example is ment to offset 39 straight days of front page coverage of Abu Graibe, which as it turns out, envolved a handfull of unsupervised, or poorly supervised people out of 140,000+ troops on the ground. Right. Check. When the checks from Soros dry up, the NYTrash will be history.

You really don’t want to go there Andrew. There isn’t enough room on this, and several other blogs, to document the wild, baseless accusations and attacks on Bush and his administration, all left wing Op-Ed pieces written under the guise of “news”. Worse, most containing outright unfounded, or un-sourced, blantant lies.

- Rather, Mapes, and the DNC thought they were big enough and important enough to take a bundle of phony memo’s that the fenatical writer had been shopping around for years, and run a scam on the public right in the middle of a presidential campaign. Unfortunately they weren’t aware they were backing a guy who shot himself in the ass twice with gernade launchers, and gave himself medals for it.

- I don’t begrudge your propaganda rags. I find it amusing you keep denying the obvious. That is certainly “feckless”, and pitiful denial politics.

- Bang **==

]]> By: blogagog http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/comment-page-1/#comment-74579 blogagog Fri, 03 Feb 2006 02:07:14 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/#comment-74579 <blockquote>NO BUT HIS REPUBLICAN'S ARE. peace</blockquote> And thank goodness too! The only thing worse than the Republicans are the Democrats. It will be probably a decade before the Democratic party finishes it's collapse and is replaced by the Libertarian party. At that point, we can have reasonable debate between the parties and expect real progress. Don't feel like supporting the Democrats is a waste of your time though Steve. It is opinions like yours that hasten the move towards progress. As it becomes clear that they are only offering hollow statements with no meaning behind them (such as 'peace', 'no blood for oil', 'not with my uteris' etc), Americans will increasingly shun the party of appeasement (both domestically and internationally). And then we can move on towards more meaningful platitudes like "peace via freedom", or "global interdependance means global peace and prosperity". So when you say "peace" at the end of each statement you make, it's ok that you don't understand what it takes to create peace (i.e. freedom). Making the Democratic ideal known to the world is the most efficient way of ending the party and beginning the real Republican/Libertarian debate. You are furthering the march of freedom albeit unintentionally, but I nevertheless salute you.

NO BUT HIS REPUBLICAN’S ARE. peace

And thank goodness too! The only thing worse than the Republicans are the Democrats. It will be probably a decade before the Democratic party finishes it’s collapse and is replaced by the Libertarian party. At that point, we can have reasonable debate between the parties and expect real progress.

Don’t feel like supporting the Democrats is a waste of your time though Steve. It is opinions like yours that hasten the move towards progress. As it becomes clear that they are only offering hollow statements with no meaning behind them (such as ‘peace’, ‘no blood for oil’, ‘not with my uteris’ etc), Americans will increasingly shun the party of appeasement (both domestically and internationally). And then we can move on towards more meaningful platitudes like “peace via freedom”, or “global interdependance means global peace and prosperity”.

So when you say “peace” at the end of each statement you make, it’s ok that you don’t understand what it takes to create peace (i.e. freedom). Making the Democratic ideal known to the world is the most efficient way of ending the party and beginning the real Republican/Libertarian debate. You are furthering the march of freedom albeit unintentionally, but I nevertheless salute you.

]]> By: andrew http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/comment-page-1/#comment-74578 andrew Fri, 03 Feb 2006 02:05:58 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/02/class-act-from-a-liberal-cartoonist/#comment-74578 "…I'm always mildly amused when the lefties start vibrating and lashing out when their pet lap dogs in the rabid leftwing media get "outed"" The post editorialized in favor of the war. Out indeed. “…I’m always mildly amused when the lefties start vibrating and lashing out when their pet lap dogs in the rabid leftwing media get “outed”"

The post editorialized in favor of the war. Out indeed.

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