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	<title>Comments on: Coretta Scott King funeral turns into a Bush-bashing fest</title>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 15:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A class act&quot;

A good one I just read basically says: Maybe the funeral speeches should have begun with &quot;friends, romans, countrymen, Lend me your ears.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A class act&#8221;</p>
<p>A good one I just read basically says: Maybe the funeral speeches should have begun with &#8220;friends, romans, countrymen, Lend me your ears.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 15:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/matttowery/2006/02/09/185812.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;class act&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A <a href="http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/matttowery/2006/02/09/185812.html" target="_blank"><strong>class act</strong></a></p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 14:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A pastor may not endorse a candidate, may not even say why he believes one is right or wrong based on the tennants of his/her church. Just mentioning how a candidate&#039;s record measures against the church&#039;s beliefs invites scrutiny&quot;

Good thing he spread the pain around.

&quot;Are you saying that the Kings would be funeral dissenters? That would be accusing them of no class Andrewâ€¦..&quot;

Look up Dr. King&#039;s speech at the funeral of the 4 little girls killed in that church bombing in Montgomery Alabama. Then tell me he has no class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A pastor may not endorse a candidate, may not even say why he believes one is right or wrong based on the tennants of his/her church. Just mentioning how a candidate&#8217;s record measures against the church&#8217;s beliefs invites scrutiny&#8221;</p>
<p>Good thing he spread the pain around.</p>
<p>&#8220;Are you saying that the Kings would be funeral dissenters? That would be accusing them of no class Andrewâ€¦..&#8221;</p>
<p>Look up Dr. King&#8217;s speech at the funeral of the 4 little girls killed in that church bombing in Montgomery Alabama. Then tell me he has no class.</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 14:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you saying that the Kings would be funeral dissenters? That would be accusing them of no class Andrew.....

I wouldn&#039;t have said that. You can&#039;t say what Coretta would&#039;ve said or done at a funeral but I&#039;m sure (my opinion) that she would&#039;ve carried herself and spoken in an dignified and civilized and tactful way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you saying that the Kings would be funeral dissenters? That would be accusing them of no class Andrew&#8230;..</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t have said that. You can&#8217;t say what Coretta would&#8217;ve said or done at a funeral but I&#8217;m sure (my opinion) that she would&#8217;ve carried herself and spoken in an dignified and civilized and tactful way.</p>
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		<title>By: J Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 13:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That said, I agree that a church ought to be able to look at the political landscape and say, this is what we believe and this is where the pols differ. That is not available (seems that is a tacit endorsement), especially in election years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That said, I agree that a church ought to be able to look at the political landscape and say, this is what we believe and this is where the pols differ. That is not available (seems that is a tacit endorsement), especially in election years.</p>
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		<title>By: J Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 12:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexis, the under the current law in the US, political discussions in church are forbidden. A pastor may not endorse a candidate, may not even say why he believes one is right or wrong based on the tennants of his/her church. Just mentioning how a candidate&#039;s record measures against the church&#039;s beliefs invites scrutiny. That is the law as passed by a dem controlled congress. If they do not wish to abide by it, then they should stop obstructing its repeal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexis, the under the current law in the US, political discussions in church are forbidden. A pastor may not endorse a candidate, may not even say why he believes one is right or wrong based on the tennants of his/her church. Just mentioning how a candidate&#8217;s record measures against the church&#8217;s beliefs invites scrutiny. That is the law as passed by a dem controlled congress. If they do not wish to abide by it, then they should stop obstructing its repeal.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Everyone dissents Andrew.&quot;

Dissenting at some time is different than living the life of a dissenter. Not everyone does it like the Kings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Everyone dissents Andrew.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dissenting at some time is different than living the life of a dissenter. Not everyone does it like the Kings.</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 05:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone dissents Andrew. That&#039;s why classy people act different at different times. There are times and places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone dissents Andrew. That&#8217;s why classy people act different at different times. There are times and places.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 05:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;During a memorial/funeral?&quot;

Dissent is essential to the memorial of a dissenter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;During a memorial/funeral?&#8221;</p>
<p>Dissent is essential to the memorial of a dissenter!</p>
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		<title>By: blogagog</title>
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		<dc:creator>blogagog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 05:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They talked about making her life last forever.&quot;

Nnot even close to reality.  You should be ashamed.  Why do you bother posting here, if you are just going to make something up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They talked about making her life last forever.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nnot even close to reality.  You should be ashamed.  Why do you bother posting here, if you are just going to make something up?</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 05:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AR said, &quot;&lt;em&gt;2) critical speech of Bush&#039;s policies is disrespectful to Bush&lt;/em&gt;

Nobody said this. Only you.

AR said, &lt;em&gt;&quot;dissent is essential to democratic society.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

During a memorial/funeral? Remind me to ask these kinds of questions of my next potential mate. I&#039;ll want class. I&#039;m not making a put down. I&#039;m hoping you learn from my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AR said, &#8220;<em>2) critical speech of Bush&#8217;s policies is disrespectful to Bush</em></p>
<p>Nobody said this. Only you.</p>
<p>AR said, <em>&#8220;dissent is essential to democratic society.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>During a memorial/funeral? Remind me to ask these kinds of questions of my next potential mate. I&#8217;ll want class. I&#8217;m not making a put down. I&#8217;m hoping you learn from my point.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 05:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And you think they were talking about her life!?!?!? You never got around to actually listening to them did you (that&#039;s not a question. The answer is obvious).&quot;

They talked about making her life last forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And you think they were talking about her life!?!?!? You never got around to actually listening to them did you (that&#8217;s not a question. The answer is obvious).&#8221;</p>
<p>They talked about making her life last forever.</p>
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		<title>By: alexis rox</title>
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		<dc:creator>alexis rox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 04:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cripes, i can&#039;t type. 

correction: 
we might actually find out we have a lot more in common with those on the &quot;Other Team&quot; than we think if we just sat down and talked about things, much to the chagrin of many of the elected class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cripes, i can&#8217;t type. </p>
<p>correction:<br />
we might actually find out we have a lot more in common with those on the &#8220;Other Team&#8221; than we think if we just sat down and talked about things, much to the chagrin of many of the elected class.</p>
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		<title>By: alexis rox</title>
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		<dc:creator>alexis rox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 04:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baklava

i would very much like to hear the false premises in each of my points. 

the major criticisms of the behavior at the funeral seem to fall into 2 categories: 1) political speech has no place at funerals and 2) critical speech of Bush&#039;s policies is disrespectful to Bush

1) the funeral of a progressive, political, anti-war activist, who devoted her life to progressive, political, anti-war causes, is probably going to contain some progressive, political, anti-war speech from some of her progressive, political, anti-war friends. her friends and family saw it fit to honor her that way, and it just doesn&#039;t seem right to tell people they aren&#039;t mourning correctly. when musician Gram Parsons died his friends set his body ablaze in Joshua Tree Nat&#039;l Park- because he had said that was what he wanted. 

how is it not an equal form of political exploitation of the event to go on the cable news circuit and decry the behavior as Democrats acting nutso and uncivil? did kate o&#039;beirne offer any discussion of who this woman truly was, what her work was all about, how she told the president to his face she did not like the war back in 2004 (at her husband&#039;s grave, no less)? if she did, i would be pretty impressed. 

2) the comments made at the funeral were fully in line with and a promotion of everything Coretta Scott King stood for. how is that Bush-Bashing? or unhinged, partisan politicizing? if King made a name for herself as a global leader through support of nonviolence and the healing power of love, why can&#039;t we talk about her views at her funeral? this service was for and about Coretta Scott King. that she and our current president did not see eye to eye on issues like the Iraq war does not mean that to talk about her worldview in front of said president is &quot;disrespectful.&quot; 

dissent is essential to democratic society. the exchange is (mostly) the kind of reasonable, issue-based debate that i wish we could see more in our government. thanks for letting me hang.


again, this is not about liberal/conservative/democrat/republican/whatever. those are relatively arbitrary terms used to pull the public into choosing sides based on wedge issues, spin, and lies. we might actually find out we have a lot more in common with one another Other Team than they thought if they just sat down and talked about things, much to the chagrin of many of  elected class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baklava</p>
<p>i would very much like to hear the false premises in each of my points. </p>
<p>the major criticisms of the behavior at the funeral seem to fall into 2 categories: 1) political speech has no place at funerals and 2) critical speech of Bush&#8217;s policies is disrespectful to Bush</p>
<p>1) the funeral of a progressive, political, anti-war activist, who devoted her life to progressive, political, anti-war causes, is probably going to contain some progressive, political, anti-war speech from some of her progressive, political, anti-war friends. her friends and family saw it fit to honor her that way, and it just doesn&#8217;t seem right to tell people they aren&#8217;t mourning correctly. when musician Gram Parsons died his friends set his body ablaze in Joshua Tree Nat&#8217;l Park- because he had said that was what he wanted. </p>
<p>how is it not an equal form of political exploitation of the event to go on the cable news circuit and decry the behavior as Democrats acting nutso and uncivil? did kate o&#8217;beirne offer any discussion of who this woman truly was, what her work was all about, how she told the president to his face she did not like the war back in 2004 (at her husband&#8217;s grave, no less)? if she did, i would be pretty impressed. </p>
<p>2) the comments made at the funeral were fully in line with and a promotion of everything Coretta Scott King stood for. how is that Bush-Bashing? or unhinged, partisan politicizing? if King made a name for herself as a global leader through support of nonviolence and the healing power of love, why can&#8217;t we talk about her views at her funeral? this service was for and about Coretta Scott King. that she and our current president did not see eye to eye on issues like the Iraq war does not mean that to talk about her worldview in front of said president is &#8220;disrespectful.&#8221; </p>
<p>dissent is essential to democratic society. the exchange is (mostly) the kind of reasonable, issue-based debate that i wish we could see more in our government. thanks for letting me hang.</p>
<p>again, this is not about liberal/conservative/democrat/republican/whatever. those are relatively arbitrary terms used to pull the public into choosing sides based on wedge issues, spin, and lies. we might actually find out we have a lot more in common with one another Other Team than they thought if they just sat down and talked about things, much to the chagrin of many of  elected class.</p>
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		<title>By: blogagog</title>
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		<dc:creator>blogagog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 04:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you think they were talking about her life!?!?!?  You never got around to actually listening to them did you  (that&#039;s not a question. The answer is obvious).

I give up.  You either will not or can not understand that respecting the dead is not even similar to making a political statement.

When Steve Jobs passes, let&#039;s not waste time on what a great man he was, let&#039;s talk about how people who don&#039;t own Apple computers are fools.

I will tell you that I despise people who stick with a position even when they realize it is a foolish one.  There is not much that is more pointless.  I understand that it is EXTREMELY difficult to admit when you are wrong, but it&#039;s a sign of inner strength when you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you think they were talking about her life!?!?!?  You never got around to actually listening to them did you  (that&#8217;s not a question. The answer is obvious).</p>
<p>I give up.  You either will not or can not understand that respecting the dead is not even similar to making a political statement.</p>
<p>When Steve Jobs passes, let&#8217;s not waste time on what a great man he was, let&#8217;s talk about how people who don&#8217;t own Apple computers are fools.</p>
<p>I will tell you that I despise people who stick with a position even when they realize it is a foolish one.  There is not much that is more pointless.  I understand that it is EXTREMELY difficult to admit when you are wrong, but it&#8217;s a sign of inner strength when you do.</p>
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