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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/18/the-conservative-cult/comment-page-3/#comment-81436</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 01:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I had made no such reference to minorities or racial issues. You saw an opportunity to go down that road. 

GBA - Don&#039;t get me started on the true reasons for the &quot;minorities plight&quot; at this point in our history, after 40+ years of being spoon fed &quot;welfare thinking&quot; &quot;

All made in &lt;strong&gt;the &lt;em&gt;context of this discussion&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; about poor people and minorities, a correlation &lt;strong&gt;**first made**&lt;/strong&gt; by TNG in the post I referenced.

I won&#039;t keep repeating this.  This conversation has veered way off course with discussions about personalities rather than the issue.   I&#039;ve exposed your little &quot;gotcha&quot; for what it is: phony. Consider this thread closed.  GBA and TNG if either of you have anything else to say about this take it up with me over email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I had made no such reference to minorities or racial issues. You saw an opportunity to go down that road. </p>
<p>GBA &#8211; Don&#8217;t get me started on the true reasons for the &#8220;minorities plight&#8221; at this point in our history, after 40+ years of being spoon fed &#8220;welfare thinking&#8221; &#8221;</p>
<p>All made in <strong>the <em>context of this discussion</em></strong> about poor people and minorities, a correlation <strong>**first made**</strong> by TNG in the post I referenced.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t keep repeating this.  This conversation has veered way off course with discussions about personalities rather than the issue.   I&#8217;ve exposed your little &#8220;gotcha&#8221; for what it is: phony. Consider this thread closed.  GBA and TNG if either of you have anything else to say about this take it up with me over email.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Bang Hunter</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/18/the-conservative-cult/comment-page-3/#comment-81433</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Bang Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 01:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- But then its always good to see if you can change the narative to making the opposition defend themselves, particularly when you feel you&#039;re losing the argument. Knock yourself out.

- Bang **==</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- But then its always good to see if you can change the narative to making the opposition defend themselves, particularly when you feel you&#8217;re losing the argument. Knock yourself out.</p>
<p>- Bang <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_flag.gif' alt='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' class='wp-smiley' width='25' height='18' title='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' /></p>
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		<title>By: Big Bang Hunter</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/18/the-conservative-cult/comment-page-3/#comment-81426</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Bang Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 01:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly. I was referencing recent authors that have discussed the dangers of self imposed &quot;victimhood&quot; and you knew that. Nice try.

Then when I refered to the cartoon bigotry engaged in by members of your party I get called a bigot. Not very adult. I&#039;d expect better from you both.

- Bang **==</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. I was referencing recent authors that have discussed the dangers of self imposed &#8220;victimhood&#8221; and you knew that. Nice try.</p>
<p>Then when I refered to the cartoon bigotry engaged in by members of your party I get called a bigot. Not very adult. I&#8217;d expect better from you both.</p>
<p>- Bang <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_flag.gif' alt='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' class='wp-smiley' width='25' height='18' title='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' /></p>
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		<title>By: GBA</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/18/the-conservative-cult/comment-page-3/#comment-81419</link>
		<dc:creator>GBA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 01:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bang you said this to me not TNG but Me. 

I had made no such reference to minorities or racial issues. You saw an opportunity to go down that road. 


GBA - Don&#039;t get me started on the true reasons for the &quot;minorities plight&quot; at this point in our history, after 40+ years of being spoon fed &quot;welfare thinking&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bang you said this to me not TNG but Me. </p>
<p>I had made no such reference to minorities or racial issues. You saw an opportunity to go down that road. </p>
<p>GBA &#8211; Don&#8217;t get me started on the true reasons for the &#8220;minorities plight&#8221; at this point in our history, after 40+ years of being spoon fed &#8220;welfare thinking&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Big Bang Hunter</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/18/the-conservative-cult/comment-page-3/#comment-81411</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Bang Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Third time - I was refering to the leftist cartoons run shamelessly by Liberal newspapers during LurchKerrys campaign.

- Of course if you had a sudden case of amnesia I can&#039;t say I blame you. I&#039;d be mondo embarrassed if someone in my party did that too...

- Bang **==</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Third time &#8211; I was refering to the leftist cartoons run shamelessly by Liberal newspapers during LurchKerrys campaign.</p>
<p>- Of course if you had a sudden case of amnesia I can&#8217;t say I blame you. I&#8217;d be mondo embarrassed if someone in my party did that too&#8230;</p>
<p>- Bang <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_flag.gif' alt='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' class='wp-smiley' width='25' height='18' title='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' /></p>
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		<title>By: GBA</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/18/the-conservative-cult/comment-page-3/#comment-81406</link>
		<dc:creator>GBA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ST,

I apologize if I offended you personally but bang crossed the line so I cannot offer him an apology.

Unless of course you can help me envision in what context or circumstance it would be ok to refer to any African American woman as &quot;Aunt Jemima&quot;. Then I will apologize if you can think of a decent scenario to use that type of language in reference to any woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ST,</p>
<p>I apologize if I offended you personally but bang crossed the line so I cannot offer him an apology.</p>
<p>Unless of course you can help me envision in what context or circumstance it would be ok to refer to any African American woman as &#8220;Aunt Jemima&#8221;. Then I will apologize if you can think of a decent scenario to use that type of language in reference to any woman.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/18/the-conservative-cult/comment-page-3/#comment-81403</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GBA: &quot;In all fairness he was using a racial slur for shock value probably to dramatize his point and not intending to be directly offensive. &quot;

You weren&#039;t referring to the Aunt Jemima comment at first - you were referring to him referencing minorities as it related to the poor.

The discerning reader will quicky note exactly why this conversation took the direction it did and it all started with TNG&#039;s correlation of black minorities with the poor.  You guys both jumped the gun in error - perhaps in a rush to confirm your negative suspicions about conservatives in the first place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GBA: &#8220;In all fairness he was using a racial slur for shock value probably to dramatize his point and not intending to be directly offensive. &#8221;</p>
<p>You weren&#8217;t referring to the Aunt Jemima comment at first &#8211; you were referring to him referencing minorities as it related to the poor.</p>
<p>The discerning reader will quicky note exactly why this conversation took the direction it did and it all started with TNG&#8217;s correlation of black minorities with the poor.  You guys both jumped the gun in error &#8211; perhaps in a rush to confirm your negative suspicions about conservatives in the first place?</p>
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		<title>By: Big Bang Hunter</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/18/the-conservative-cult/comment-page-3/#comment-81402</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Bang Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- I agree GBA.... so write the author of the Liberal cartoon that did just that. Since I&#039;ve never engaged in anything of that nature I think it would be more usefull if you admonished the Liberal perp, don&#039;t you?. 

But thats not what all this obfuscation is about. Its about changing the subject when you&#039;re behind 47 to 3 and theres only 2 minutes left in the game. Old tried and true lefty trick. *chuckle*. I&#039;m not buying.

- Bang **==</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- I agree GBA&#8230;. so write the author of the Liberal cartoon that did just that. Since I&#8217;ve never engaged in anything of that nature I think it would be more usefull if you admonished the Liberal perp, don&#8217;t you?. </p>
<p>But thats not what all this obfuscation is about. Its about changing the subject when you&#8217;re behind 47 to 3 and theres only 2 minutes left in the game. Old tried and true lefty trick. *chuckle*. I&#8217;m not buying.</p>
<p>- Bang <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_flag.gif' alt='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' class='wp-smiley' width='25' height='18' title='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' /></p>
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		<title>By: thatniceguy</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/18/the-conservative-cult/comment-page-3/#comment-81396</link>
		<dc:creator>thatniceguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ST,

Unfortunately, I have to step out for a second, but I&#039;ll address your comments when I return.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ST,</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I have to step out for a second, but I&#8217;ll address your comments when I return.</p>
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		<title>By: GBA</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/18/the-conservative-cult/comment-page-3/#comment-81394</link>
		<dc:creator>GBA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ST,

Opionions on issues of racial equality are often different amongst people depending on their ethnic origin. 

TNG was quoting from a historical point of view. Bang was moving in a very different direction with no historical context. 

In all fairness he was using a racial slur for shock value probably to dramatize his point and not intending to be directly offensive. But for the life of me I cannot envision any discussion where it is appropriate to refer to an African American woman as &quot;Aunt Jemima&quot; outside the context of syrup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ST,</p>
<p>Opionions on issues of racial equality are often different amongst people depending on their ethnic origin. </p>
<p>TNG was quoting from a historical point of view. Bang was moving in a very different direction with no historical context. </p>
<p>In all fairness he was using a racial slur for shock value probably to dramatize his point and not intending to be directly offensive. But for the life of me I cannot envision any discussion where it is appropriate to refer to an African American woman as &#8220;Aunt Jemima&#8221; outside the context of syrup.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Bang Hunter</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/18/the-conservative-cult/comment-page-3/#comment-81382</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Bang Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys really need to bone up on things before you try to play hardball. Attacks are the lamest excuse for real discussion. Or didn&#039;t your mommies ever teach you that?

- Bang **==</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys really need to bone up on things before you try to play hardball. Attacks are the lamest excuse for real discussion. Or didn&#8217;t your mommies ever teach you that?</p>
<p>- Bang <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_flag.gif' alt='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' class='wp-smiley' width='25' height='18' title='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' /></p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/18/the-conservative-cult/comment-page-3/#comment-81380</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sorry, ST. Context and content are completely different.&quot;

You were the first to make a correlation between the poor and black people.  Why do you want to shove this all on someone else when you were clearly the one who made the correlation first?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sorry, ST. Context and content are completely different.&#8221;</p>
<p>You were the first to make a correlation between the poor and black people.  Why do you want to shove this all on someone else when you were clearly the one who made the correlation first?</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/18/the-conservative-cult/comment-page-3/#comment-81377</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GBA: Apparently you don&#039;t see the point because you&#039;re wrong. TNG made a direct correlation between the poor and minorities.  That&#039;s the direction this conversation took.  Yet when Bang &lt;em&gt;continued&lt;/em&gt; in that direction all of a sudden he was accused of being a &quot;bigot&quot;? I don&#039;t think so.  

And why do you keep asking me what about the race card I don&#039;t like?  Is there anything TO like about the race card? No - there isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GBA: Apparently you don&#8217;t see the point because you&#8217;re wrong. TNG made a direct correlation between the poor and minorities.  That&#8217;s the direction this conversation took.  Yet when Bang <em>continued</em> in that direction all of a sudden he was accused of being a &#8220;bigot&#8221;? I don&#8217;t think so.  </p>
<p>And why do you keep asking me what about the race card I don&#8217;t like?  Is there anything TO like about the race card? No &#8211; there isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Bang Hunter</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/18/the-conservative-cult/comment-page-3/#comment-81376</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Bang Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait...wait... &quot;Southern Strategy&quot;.... Lets see... Would that be the Southern Strategy which had all the Demoratic Congressman MIA leaving the vast majority of civil rights legislation to the Republicans, while they hid afraid of their own constituents back home....or maybe its that Southern Strategy of a Republican president having to send in the National Guard to enforce the civil rights laws because defiant Democrat governors refused too... Is that the &quot;Southern Strategy&quot; you were refering too TNG?

- Bang **==</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait&#8230;wait&#8230; &#8220;Southern Strategy&#8221;&#8230;. Lets see&#8230; Would that be the Southern Strategy which had all the Demoratic Congressman MIA leaving the vast majority of civil rights legislation to the Republicans, while they hid afraid of their own constituents back home&#8230;.or maybe its that Southern Strategy of a Republican president having to send in the National Guard to enforce the civil rights laws because defiant Democrat governors refused too&#8230; Is that the &#8220;Southern Strategy&#8221; you were refering too TNG?</p>
<p>- Bang <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_flag.gif' alt='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' class='wp-smiley' width='25' height='18' title='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' /></p>
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		<title>By: GBA</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/02/18/the-conservative-cult/comment-page-3/#comment-81374</link>
		<dc:creator>GBA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ST,

I hear you and get your point. But that&#039;s not where bang was going. Nor was TNGs point a racial point. He was pointing out an act of absurdity and absolute ignorance.

Bang took and ran with it. I admire your zeal in trying to back him up but made it very clear how he feels about minorities. 

I know you hate the race card. But what exactly do you hate about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ST,</p>
<p>I hear you and get your point. But that&#8217;s not where bang was going. Nor was TNGs point a racial point. He was pointing out an act of absurdity and absolute ignorance.</p>
<p>Bang took and ran with it. I admire your zeal in trying to back him up but made it very clear how he feels about minorities. </p>
<p>I know you hate the race card. But what exactly do you hate about it?</p>
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