Comments on: The Defeatocrats

By: Jim M

Jim M — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:23:04 +0000

Hey Steve that’s what a chainsaw is for cut down some trees and use it as firewood so much for dark and when I go into the woods I’m usually hunting so bring on your nasty meanies wimpy. Lock-n-load!

By: steve

steve — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:46:43 +0000

“He who laffs last, laughs best.” You guy’s really shouldn’t get too far out ahead of yourselves, because the woods are dark and full of nasty meanies. Peace

By: Jim M

Jim M — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:53:26 +0000

So if you include Tommy and Andrew would that be “It Takes a Village of idiots”!

By: Severian

Severian — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:10:49 +0000

And 100% think steve is a virtual village idiot!

By: Jim M

Jim M — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:02:54 +0000

Good come back Steve I’ll bet coming up with Karl Rove took all your brain power?

By: steve

steve — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:18:50 +0000

Nope, Karl Rove. Thanks for asking. Peace

By: Jim M

Jim M — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 10:58:44 +0000

Steve did you get your percentages from Moveon.org?

By: The Anti-Jihad Pundit » Blog Archive » Iraqi war: Europeans, look for what you are wishing for

Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:51:21 +0000

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By: steve

steve — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:11:09 +0000

3 years, 2300+, 17,000+ seriously wounded and bush believes that because one city, Talafar, is secure the war in Iraq is going well. Is it any wonder that 57%, of Americans believe that the illegal, preemptive invasion of Iraq was a mistake. 42%, think that bush should be impeached. 79%, think that he lied about why we went to war in Iraq. Peace

By: Jim M

Jim M — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:32:41 +0000

Severian that is a given with Democrats and Liberals!

By: Severian

Severian — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:19:18 +0000

Murtha’s statement is not meaningless. It speaks volumes about the liberals, Democrats, and his own fecklessness and lack of acquaintance with the truth. The statement itself, taken as a conveyor of information about Iraq, is worthless, you’re right that it conveys no information about Iraq that’s worth noting. However, as a measure and indication of Murtha’s, and his party’s, lack of will, lack of vision, and willingness to sacrifice US interests abroad on the alter of political expediency, it says much.

By: andrew

andrew — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:07:14 +0000

“Andrew the insurgency is limited to 3 provinces and their area is getting smaller as the majority of Iraqis are getting fed up with the insurgents.”

I have no idea if its getting smaller. They do seem to be killing each other more than than us now.

“Since you were using body counts in your earlier statements how come we are not hearing the body count of the Iraqis fighting the insurgents with our troops?”

Probably because body counts are problematic statistics that don’t tell us much about progress. If we kill zero insurgents, that could be a victory because there are none. Likewise if we kill thousands, that could be a loss because it means there is a lot of insurgents and a lot of fighting.

“You are right Murtha’s statement is meaningless.”

You’re getting the point.

By: Jim M

Jim M — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:58:36 +0000

Andrew the insurgency is limited to 3 provinces and their area is getting smaller as the majority of Iraqis are getting fed up with the insurgents. Who do you think is informing us as to where the insurgents are? Using common sense Bush was not talking about uninhabited areas and what Bush said is not open to more than one interpretation.

Well, 75% or 50%, the point still holds that the number has the capacity to be meaningless because a lot of the country is empty.

You are right Murtha’s statement is meaningless.

Since you were using body counts in your earlier statements how come we are not hearing the body count of the Iraqis fighting the insurgents with our troops?

By: andrew

andrew — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:28:42 +0000

” I didn’t hear Bush say Â¾ or 75% he said “more of Iraq” let’s stick to what he said and not insert figures as Murtha did. ”

Well, 75% or 50%, the point still holds that the number has the capacity to be meaningless because a lot of the country is empty.

And the 75% could come from somewhere in the admin.

“If you want to believe Bush was including uninhabited areas of Iraq that is up to you I understood it as the inhabited areas. ”

Well, its ambiguous. I’d like it to be what you said, and a meaningfull benchmark, but the point is it could not be. I think its important that we have transparent benchmarks and goals for success.

“Typical hypocrisy of the left, Murtha mumbles around his drool cup that “why, 75% is desert!” but has no problem with the MSM, who give the impression that all of Iraq is a violent, insurgent controlled fear zone, when the actual insurgency is pretty much limited to only 3 provinces.”

Uh, its not hypocrisy. its the same point. The 3 provinces are important ones. Car bombs in baghdad are a big deal. In the middle of the desert? no.

By: Lorica

Lorica — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:22:58 +0000

You know if you just click on the CentCom on the bottom left of this page it will take you to all sorts of links and stories about Iraq. Including this link. Want to stay informed on Iraq, you go to the source. Not the guys hanging out at the hotel Baghdad. Things are getting better over there, and we have our men and women in the Military to thank. They have done an excellent job, and I pray that we show them the appreciation due them when they do finally get back home. It would be awesome to have a NYC parade. This is an excellent post Sister. Thank You so very much - Lorica