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"Nixon didn’t try to do that. They couldn't control (the media). They didn’t try. [...] What the hell do they think we are, puppets?"
- Liberal opinion writer Helen Thomas, describing the Obama admin's penchant for heavily scripting public appearances & press conferences - 7/1/09
A post that may get me in trouble
… but so be it 
I’m taking an informal poll on engagement rings. I’m looking fwd to the responses
For the ladies:
1. When a gent tells you he’d like for the two of you to be engaged, and wants you to select the engagement ring, about how much would you expect him to spend on it?
2. Would you be offended if he wanted to spend less on it than you expect him to?
3. Or is it the thought that counts, and it doesn’t matter the amount spent, as long as it doesn’t come out of a Cracker Jack box?
4. Would you be ok with a used ring (excluding heirlooms/antiques with a known history)?
For the gents:
1. When you talk to your g/f about becoming engaged, what do you expect to spend on the ring?
2. Would you be offended if she asked for a ring that was over, say, $3K?
3. Would knowing that she wanted you to spend over $3K for an engagement ring and would not accept anything less make you have second thoughts about her priorities in the relationship?
4. Would you be ok with buying her a used ring (excluding heirlooms/antiques with a known history)?
None of these are trick questions, I assure you
Edit to add: I know quite a few folks who have made it past the engagement stage and onto marriage post here, but I hope they will participate in the poll anyway and look at it as a hypothetical.
Update I: Scott Allan in the comments section makes a good point about surprising the woman with an engagement ring. That’s the way it is traditionally done, but more and more these days I’m hearing about couples who actually discuss getting engaged before getting engaged – for what it’s worth.
Update II: I should note that it’s not me getting engaged.
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oH my eyes….
Wife corrected me.
She talked me out of buying a more expensive ring for her.
She also said that material things do NOT prove Love.
*chuckles*
It might be impolitic to ask, but why buy an engagement ring at all?
Pam said:
It seems a strange way to put it: to see it in monetary terms is something that would occur only if the couple broke up and the ring was sold! (Pam did put it in monetary terms further in her comment.)
The fact is that it becomes a financial burden: a month’s salary or ½ a month’s salary is a big thing to people living from paycheck-to-paycheck, and if the ring has to be financed, it becomes just another bill to be paid as a young couple, presumably not at the peak of their earning potential, are starting out in life.
The $28,000 proposed ring that got this thread started would make a pretty decent down payment on a house. $28,000 would pay for a year in college for one of their children, which they don’t (yet) have, and if put into an educational savings plan, might just wind up paying for college, period, when their children do get old enough.
Instead, by spending it on an engagement ring, it is a $28,000 accessory, an end product, serving no purpose more valuable than allowing the
wenchlady in question to flaunt it to her friends.