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	<title>Comments on: What stinks about the whole &#8220;retired generals speak out&#8221; issue</title>
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	<description>Don&#039;t dis or dismiss this miss!</description>
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		<title>By: Darrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rumsfeld may be a demanding son of a bitch but at his level you have to be. Just like any private would look at the General as the demanding bastard that he must be.

Someone shared a quote with me this morning that is appropriate here. 

&quot;I am convinced that the best service a retired general can perform is to turn in his tongue along with his suit, and to mothball his opinions.&quot; —General Omar Bradley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rumsfeld may be a demanding son of a bitch but at his level you have to be. Just like any private would look at the General as the demanding bastard that he must be.</p>
<p>Someone shared a quote with me this morning that is appropriate here. </p>
<p>&#8220;I am convinced that the best service a retired general can perform is to turn in his tongue along with his suit, and to mothball his opinions.&#8221; —General Omar Bradley</p>
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		<title>By: forest hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>forest hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those of you who are computer savvy, might want to link the link at Michelle&#039;s site. &quot;Themarine&quot; has a very well written and respectfuly submitted post worthy of reading, regarding General Zinni.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those of you who are computer savvy, might want to link the link at Michelle&#8217;s site. &#8220;Themarine&#8221; has a very well written and respectfuly submitted post worthy of reading, regarding General Zinni.</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 15:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;em&gt;Pre-emptive war and retribution are a part of the Zionist philosophy&lt;/em&gt;&quot;

Got a link where that is stated? Till then....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<em>Pre-emptive war and retribution are a part of the Zionist philosophy</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>Got a link where that is stated? Till then&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray-gun, is the President responsible for the mess in Iraq. Before Ray-gun, we did not start pre-emptive wars. He did that in Grenada. Pre-emptive war and retribution are a part of the Zionist philosophy and when that philosophy enters into the foreign poicy of America, as it has, &quot;we the people&quot; are in trouble. Peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray-gun, is the President responsible for the mess in Iraq. Before Ray-gun, we did not start pre-emptive wars. He did that in Grenada. Pre-emptive war and retribution are a part of the Zionist philosophy and when that philosophy enters into the foreign poicy of America, as it has, &#8220;we the people&#8221; are in trouble. Peace</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Believe it or not, there are sodliers, people who have served in the different branches of the Armed Forces, that are regulars and post here, including myself.&quot;

Yep, and I will back you up on that.  In addition to the people who post here who&#039;ve stated their military experience on the blog, there are any number who haven&#039;t stated so in this blog but whose email addresses tell me they&#039;re military.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Believe it or not, there are sodliers, people who have served in the different branches of the Armed Forces, that are regulars and post here, including myself.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yep, and I will back you up on that.  In addition to the people who post here who&#8217;ve stated their military experience on the blog, there are any number who haven&#8217;t stated so in this blog but whose email addresses tell me they&#8217;re military.</p>
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		<title>By: sanity</title>
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		<dc:creator>sanity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Believe it or not, there are sodliers, people who have served in the different branches of the Armed Forces, that are regulars and post here, including myself.

US Army, 1st duty station Korea (Cmp Edwards, 9 miles from the DMZ), 2nd duty station Ft. Campbell, with a small stint in Panama for Jungle Training. After which I spent 6 years in the Army National Guard.


&lt;b&gt;I was not a soldier, I was a Marine.&lt;/b&gt;

Symmantics. If you are a Marine, you were a soldier, whther you believe it or not. You would have served in one of the branches of the Armed Forces, and deployed where your commanders told you to. 
&lt;blockquote&gt;
solÂ·dier  (sljr)
n.
1. &lt;b&gt;One who serves in an army.&lt;/b&gt;
2. An &lt;b&gt;enlisted person&lt;/b&gt; or a &lt;b&gt;noncommissioned officer.&lt;/b&gt;
3. An active, loyal, or militant follower of an organization.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You are just using symmantics. Whether you want to believe it or not, you were a soldier as soon as you signed on the dotted line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe it or not, there are sodliers, people who have served in the different branches of the Armed Forces, that are regulars and post here, including myself.</p>
<p>US Army, 1st duty station Korea (Cmp Edwards, 9 miles from the DMZ), 2nd duty station Ft. Campbell, with a small stint in Panama for Jungle Training. After which I spent 6 years in the Army National Guard.</p>
<p><b>I was not a soldier, I was a Marine.</b></p>
<p>Symmantics. If you are a Marine, you were a soldier, whther you believe it or not. You would have served in one of the branches of the Armed Forces, and deployed where your commanders told you to. </p>
<blockquote><p>
solÂ·dier  (sljr)<br />
n.<br />
1. <b>One who serves in an army.</b><br />
2. An <b>enlisted person</b> or a <b>noncommissioned officer.</b><br />
3. An active, loyal, or militant follower of an organization.</p>
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<p>You are just using symmantics. Whether you want to believe it or not, you were a soldier as soon as you signed on the dotted line.</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/267124_center19.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A retired Read Admiral speaks&lt;/a&gt;. I was in the Navy. Admirals were in my chain of command. 

In it is:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Rumsfeld is arguably the most qualified and experienced secretary of defense in U.S. history. He exercises full command of the levers of Pentagon power. He understands the culture and controls the promotions of senior military leaders more closely than any of his predecessors.

Rumsfeld might have considered resigning in the wake of the devastating Abu Ghraib revelations. By so doing, he could have taken responsibility and sent the strongest possible signal concerning the total unacceptability of such conduct. Perhaps he did offer his resignation and the president declined to accept it. Regardless, it was very disappointing that none of the responsible generals resigned.

The decision to resign belongs exclusively to the individual. The retired generals had their chances to resign. It is reported that Maj. Gen. John Batiste may have done so. Others chose to follow orders. If they now want to offer an opinion on the conduct of the war, they are well-qualified to do so. They are also free to criticize the secretary&#039;s leadership. I&#039;ve offered critical opinions of my own. It is not their place, however, to call upon the president&#039;s second-in-command to step down.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/267124_center19.html" rel="nofollow">A retired Read Admiral speaks</a>. I was in the Navy. Admirals were in my chain of command. </p>
<p>In it is:</p>
<blockquote><p>Rumsfeld is arguably the most qualified and experienced secretary of defense in U.S. history. He exercises full command of the levers of Pentagon power. He understands the culture and controls the promotions of senior military leaders more closely than any of his predecessors.</p>
<p>Rumsfeld might have considered resigning in the wake of the devastating Abu Ghraib revelations. By so doing, he could have taken responsibility and sent the strongest possible signal concerning the total unacceptability of such conduct. Perhaps he did offer his resignation and the president declined to accept it. Regardless, it was very disappointing that none of the responsible generals resigned.</p>
<p>The decision to resign belongs exclusively to the individual. The retired generals had their chances to resign. It is reported that Maj. Gen. John Batiste may have done so. Others chose to follow orders. If they now want to offer an opinion on the conduct of the war, they are well-qualified to do so. They are also free to criticize the secretary&#8217;s leadership. I&#8217;ve offered critical opinions of my own. It is not their place, however, to call upon the president&#8217;s second-in-command to step down.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Gaius Arbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaius Arbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uffda, a very apt name since something just plain stinks about your claims.

You say you&#039;re a Marine officer. I have no way to tell, you could be. Or not. I will say this, you do not write or communicate in a way that sounds genuine. You write like someone with a liberal arts education and a very leftist viewpoint.

You claim to have been an officer, yet you dispute that general officers running around saying the things they are endanger the troops. Any damn thing that can negatively effect morale or support for the troops can endanger the troops. An officer would know that.

My son is a soldier, and he noted that not enough armored vehicles had been available at the start. But it&#039;s also quite evident that military planners did not expect the need for it or that they failed to say they needed it. To blame it squarely on Rumsfeld is disingenuous at best, a flat lie at worst. An officer would know that.

The Marines are resisting the &quot;extra armor&quot;. It makes them a nice bullet-proff target since they can&#039;t move worth a damn in it. An officer would listen to his troops, not pontificate.

So, uffda to you uffda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uffda, a very apt name since something just plain stinks about your claims.</p>
<p>You say you&#8217;re a Marine officer. I have no way to tell, you could be. Or not. I will say this, you do not write or communicate in a way that sounds genuine. You write like someone with a liberal arts education and a very leftist viewpoint.</p>
<p>You claim to have been an officer, yet you dispute that general officers running around saying the things they are endanger the troops. Any damn thing that can negatively effect morale or support for the troops can endanger the troops. An officer would know that.</p>
<p>My son is a soldier, and he noted that not enough armored vehicles had been available at the start. But it&#8217;s also quite evident that military planners did not expect the need for it or that they failed to say they needed it. To blame it squarely on Rumsfeld is disingenuous at best, a flat lie at worst. An officer would know that.</p>
<p>The Marines are resisting the &#8220;extra armor&#8221;. It makes them a nice bullet-proff target since they can&#8217;t move worth a damn in it. An officer would listen to his troops, not pontificate.</p>
<p>So, uffda to you uffda.</p>
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		<title>By: Severian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Severian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;give the Marine Air Corps all the A-10s and then upgrade them. &quot;

Not a bad idea, unfortunately the AF is overly enamored of high tech toys and dislikes the A-10 because it&#039;s not sexy enough, despite its effectiveness. 

Actually, the Army should have them, but there&#039;s this little doctrinal issue about the Army not being allowed to fly fixed wing combat aircraft (dumb, but it&#039;s a turf war between the AF and Army, exactly the kind of thing Rumsfeld has been attacking and PO&#039;ing the military brass by doing). The Marines would be an OK substitute, but they have their own attack aircraft and infrastructure. And often the Army fights where the Marines don&#039;t, and in larger formations/numbers, and is usually in need of more close air support. 

The A-10 should be upgraded with a decent FLIR pod and targeting system. It is, to this day, perhaps the finest ground attack aircraft ever made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;give the Marine Air Corps all the A-10s and then upgrade them. &#8221;</p>
<p>Not a bad idea, unfortunately the AF is overly enamored of high tech toys and dislikes the A-10 because it&#8217;s not sexy enough, despite its effectiveness. </p>
<p>Actually, the Army should have them, but there&#8217;s this little doctrinal issue about the Army not being allowed to fly fixed wing combat aircraft (dumb, but it&#8217;s a turf war between the AF and Army, exactly the kind of thing Rumsfeld has been attacking and PO&#8217;ing the military brass by doing). The Marines would be an OK substitute, but they have their own attack aircraft and infrastructure. And often the Army fights where the Marines don&#8217;t, and in larger formations/numbers, and is usually in need of more close air support. </p>
<p>The A-10 should be upgraded with a decent FLIR pod and targeting system. It is, to this day, perhaps the finest ground attack aircraft ever made.</p>
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		<title>By: Severian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Severian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Marine and an Airman walk into the latrine and take a leak. The Marine washes and washes his hands, while the Airman just walks out.

The Marine looks at the Airman and says &quot;In the Marines, they taught us to wash our hands after going to the bathroom!&quot;

The Airman replies &quot;In the Air Force they taught us not to pee on our hands.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Marine and an Airman walk into the latrine and take a leak. The Marine washes and washes his hands, while the Airman just walks out.</p>
<p>The Marine looks at the Airman and says &#8220;In the Marines, they taught us to wash our hands after going to the bathroom!&#8221;</p>
<p>The Airman replies &#8220;In the Air Force they taught us not to pee on our hands.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. 

I think leftists think each president and secretary of defense plans wars. They come into office and draw up all the scenarios. Thousands of them. 

BTW, Why are they leftists? Because of their views and sources of information that help them form their views. 

It&#039;s not a BAD thing. I was once one. But I saw the light. And when I did it was over a year&#039;s worth of visiting the library 3 times a week (during my 6 year enlistment) in 1991. 

Uffda could do the same research I did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. </p>
<p>I think leftists think each president and secretary of defense plans wars. They come into office and draw up all the scenarios. Thousands of them. </p>
<p>BTW, Why are they leftists? Because of their views and sources of information that help them form their views. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a BAD thing. I was once one. But I saw the light. And when I did it was over a year&#8217;s worth of visiting the library 3 times a week (during my 6 year enlistment) in 1991. </p>
<p>Uffda could do the same research I did.</p>
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		<title>By: PCD</title>
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		<dc:creator>PCD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt uffda is a Marine.  Hummers were not designed as a armored vehicle.  They were replacements for the vererable jeep which wasn&#039;t armored.

Marines fight with what they have, not what they see in video games.  If I were President, first thing I&#039;d do is give the Marine Air Corps all the A-10s and then upgrade them.  You think the A-10s were effective before, try them in the hands of a Marine close support pilot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt uffda is a Marine.  Hummers were not designed as a armored vehicle.  They were replacements for the vererable jeep which wasn&#8217;t armored.</p>
<p>Marines fight with what they have, not what they see in video games.  If I were President, first thing I&#8217;d do is give the Marine Air Corps all the A-10s and then upgrade them.  You think the A-10s were effective before, try them in the hands of a Marine close support pilot.</p>
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		<title>By: chez diva</title>
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		<dc:creator>chez diva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baklava,

I guess Uffda is blaming all the guys at CENTCOM for the &quot;incompetent&quot; war planning.  They are the guys who plan operations in the Middle East. So, it looks like Rummy dodged that bullet. He can&#039;t be held responsible for incompetent war plans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baklava,</p>
<p>I guess Uffda is blaming all the guys at CENTCOM for the &#8220;incompetent&#8221; war planning.  They are the guys who plan operations in the Middle East. So, it looks like Rummy dodged that bullet. He can&#8217;t be held responsible for incompetent war plans.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Yoest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Yoest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Rumsfeld and Charmaine&lt;/strong&gt;

 Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and Charmaine Yoest The Donald is smoothly working the room. A glittering event in Your Nation&#039;s Capital some time ago. &quot;Go give Rummy a big smooch,&quot; I tell Charmaine. &quot;The Washington Post says he&#039;s...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Rumsfeld and Charmaine</strong></p>
<p> Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and Charmaine Yoest The Donald is smoothly working the room. A glittering event in Your Nation&#8217;s Capital some time ago. &#8220;Go give Rummy a big smooch,&#8221; I tell Charmaine. &#8220;The Washington Post says he&#8217;s&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He had it in another thread today Bang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He had it in another thread today Bang.</p>
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