- I did see a show where they think sudden eruptions of carbon dioxide/methane/monoxide from under lakes and bodies of water explains massive cattle/animal kills in several parts of the world over the ages though. Was always a mystery before. Wonder if thats what happened to Flight 19.

- Bang

The methane can also smother aircraft engines in these size quantities.

Now, don’t I sound like a liberal junk science advocate?

- Bang

- On another note, I have two things to add to the “cheap renewable, non-polluting energy” disscussion. For those of you that are not physicists, the main problem is and always has been, not so much the generation of the power economically, there are many ways to do that, but the long time storage efficiently, so it can be used as needed. One way that NOBODY is talking about is “kenetic storage”. I won’t go into a lot of detail. But it uses gravity. You build a vert very large heavy construct, it could be the building housing the control center for instance, and you place it on slides into a large water filled sealed base in the ground. Solar panels in a large “farm” with high energy collectors provide the energy to “pump” up the building in off hours, (you have as many of these as you want with some in operation and others being power “charged” or lifted), and then allow the building or weight to “settle” pushing the water underneath through electrical generators. the problem with solar has always been the “night” hours, and this would completely solve that.

- On another front I am involved in ongoing experiments on an energy form that was discovered way back on the late 20’s, but largely forgotten as a curiosity, because no one can seem to figure out where the “energy” comes from in the process or what form it takes. Some think its actually “anti-gravity”, others that its some form of new “kenetic” propulsion. In any event for decades it was considered just aa novalty because it seemed it would never be practical in what it could do, however lately theres been a revival of interest, even at NASA who are already thinking of using a already working design in space “steering” jets on sattelites. Breakthroughs in development in just the past year are showing really interesting promise. So take heaart. You may be zipping around in “Gravi-cars” in the not to distant future folks! No more gas stations!

- Bang

Get my email from the good sister. I have a friend that can supply you with a chip for your engine’s computer to give you a more economy tune. Also, google ASP. They make underdrive pulley kits for Fords that work well. I have one on my T-Bird. I get 2 MPG more in town with those pulleys on. Also, replace your paper air filter with a K&N air filter. Should net you another 1 MPG, but you’ll never need to buy another air filter again.

Only 20 MPG. I’m riding the bus now to get to work.

I don’t need 170 HP and or 200 lb of torque. There should be a way to tell the computer to do something differently. That’s my view.

I am in no way saying that today’s Toyota Camry pollutes.

I’m saying that YOU PEOPLE need to maintain your cars. The 1990 Camry had a valve issue where many of the cars had an issue starting and running where it polluted more. It’d cost up to $1,000 to fix and most don’t because it passed smog and it didn’t pose a reliability problem.

I sell repair and maintenance parts for Geo Metros. They are high priced and hard to get in large quantites. Usually a Metro owner gets frustrated and buys a Hyundai. When they start looking for headlights, tranny fluid, filters for the Hyundai, they are really frustrated people.

I was there. I know. I was brainwashed pre 1991.

I do agree that they are mislead into beieving that property needs to be seized and energy companies need to be punished for selling a legal product, etc.

I had a Ford LTD Country Squire station wagon that had better hydro carbon and Carbon Monoxide and sulphur readings than my ex’s 4 cylinder Toyota Camry. Not to mention that it could scoot. It had a 5.0 V8 that was detuned to 160 HP and 285 ft lbs of torque. I towed trailers with it and it did pretty good for a car.

What’s my point? Well… That the liberal mindeset is sort of shallow. More education about the pollutants are needed. Strong, reliable, well maintained cars polluting less than throw away, gone in 4 years Geo Metros are what’s needed. Who maintains a Geo Metro anyway? How is that good for the environment? 80% of car pollution is made by cars that aren’t well maintained.

Just keep a positive attitude. I know I fail sometimes but really liberals need more info from us. It’s our duty to inform. Some will come around as some have for me.

I had a 78 Buick Skylark that I had tuned using OLD mechanic techniques that was cleaner than the 1980 models. I got pulled out of line at a voluntary test in Clear Lake, IA, as the smog nazis went over that Buick with a fine toothed comb trying to figure out what I did.

I’d do the same again with my cars. I’m all for efficiently burning fuel, but some of the stuff the EPA and Congress mandates is crap that doesn’t work.

My post was for liberals so that they could SEE that Bush was FOR environmentalism – (for fuel-efficient hybrid automobiles). As liberals will be in tunnel vision reading Bush anti-enviro stories as if they know what is in Bush’s motives or thoughts.