Nice addition, Sev!

Excellent analogy Ryan! It doesn’t matter if they clean the house while they’re there eating my food and breaking down my door either.

Mexicans send approximately 20 billion dollars, that’s billion with a B, out of this country, most of it untaxed. That represents a huge monetary drain on the US, without even considering the costs in social services, prisons, law enforcement, etc.

You are heartless…

just kidding. We are one of only a few countries you can do that and not be punished severely. When you fill out a job application most of the time you have to indicate whether or not you have been arrested. People here illegally have broken the law if they are using false documentation to get a job and could be arrested if the laws are enforced. It’d be better for the person’s FAMILY if that job seeker did things lawfully so as not to be kept from good jobs because they have an arrest record. I care about that family and so I support that father/mother making a better choice and coming here legally or changing their own country to make things better for their family.

If by “bad things” you mean hoping they stay in Mexico and not enter this country illegally, then yes, count me as part of that group.

“If you will just think, before expressing hate into a web site that will be read by your kids in the future.”

Speaking of the future, I don’t think a country flooded by people entering illegally has much of one, do you? I’m not sure wishing that people don’t break the law is an expression of hate.

“Think about your own family. Where did your family come from? Think about your great grandparents, where were they born? or their parents, I am sure it doesn’t say United Stetes on their birth certificate.”

My family arrived legally from places like Finland, Norway, England, and Germany.

“And you talk about building walls. How can you be such a heartless human being that will even think about doing such harm to people looking for the well-being of their families.”

So you believe that anyone should just be allowed to enter the country. Nobody is denying anyone legal entry. This is akin to saying, “How dare you lock your door and prevent me from coming into your home, taking some food from your kitchen, and sending it back to my needy family!”

“I am not mexican, but I am hispanic. And the places that I have worked hispanics are always more awarded for their performance than whites and blacks. Why is that?”

Wow, that smells of thinking you are superior. Germany circa 1930s and 1940s anyone?

“If we had a goverment like yours we won’t be here.”

Perhaps that should signal you to try to effect change within Mexico. Imagine if you put as much effort into that as you did this comment! Multiply that by everyone illegally entering the USA from Mexico. If they put as much energy as you did here, or as much energy as they do working 2-3 jobs, then perhaps there is a chance for the Mexican government and country to improve.

If their country is so bad, why don’t they stay there and work towards improving it rather than running away an expecting us to pick up the slack? This country wasn’t that great a place when the British were running it, they being a tad heavy handed and such. But we fought a revolution, a revolution fought by the citizens at great cost, to throw off the oppressors and make a better country to live in. You should work to fix your own country, or if you don’t want to, petition to come here legally, and become a US citizen, and pledge your loyalty to this country as a legal citizen of it. Not come here, take advantage of the social services and opportunities, while still casting your citizenship and allegience to a foreign country. Starting out your stay in this country by willfully breaking the law is a pretty poor first impression.

Who are those people? What are the “bad things”?

I am one of those for the sake of national security and rule of law think that people who come here should come here legally (not illegaly) or they should be deported back to their country. If going back to their country is a “bad thing” then maybe they can come back but do it “legally”.

Nina, This country allows more LEGAL immigrants than all other countries combined. Why then wouldn’t we (a generous nation) be allowed to control our borders for the sake of national security and the rule of law.

Towns and the environment are being decimated on the southern border. “Caring” should be applied to people who legally own land down there and the ecology and the environment as well.

Nina asked, “ Think about your own family. Where did your family come from? Think about your great grandparents, where were they born? ”

Italy and Poland and they came here legally.

Nina talked about our hearts inappropriately by saying, “ And you talk about building walls. How can you be such a heartless human being that will even think about doing such harm to people looking for the well-being of their families.”

Does rule of law and national security matter? How about looking for the well-being of law abiding citizens who deserve a government guaranteed by the constitution to protect them with a national defense. How is a defense possible with a border that isn’t respected? Please do not cast aspersions about our hearts when we are very caring, very generous and just asking people to follow the rule of law.

Nina said, “And the places that I have worked hispanics are always more awarded for their performance than whites and blacks. Why is that? Because we come to this country to work, and when we find a job we want to give our best.”

That is a tad bit racist. Everywhere I work I recieve large double digit raises, lots of praise, I’m given more work because they know I can get it done. It is a factor of a capitalist nation. Capitalism is defined as – The people choosing who gets what resources. Socialism is the government choosing who gets what resources. In a capitalist nation, yes, those who work harder are rewarded. I would say hurray! if you notice that hispanics are awarded more. Great. Keep up the great work and don’t try to change this country away from capitalism. One day you might own a business and you’d want the best people working for you and you’d reward them for it. That’s the people choosing who gets what resources.

Nina diverted the issue by saying, “Don’t treat us like we don’t do nothing.”

All we are asking is for national security and the rule of law to be followed. If “us” are people that came here legally then there isn’t an issue. If “us” are people who came here illegally then it’s not ok.

The last paragraph is irrelevant to me. Though it is relevant that our government and corporations in CA and Texas and Arizona have to spend millions of dollars having to print, speak and display things in Spanish (not Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Italian, Arabic, etc just Spanish) due to the large amount of people who aren’t wiling to learn English. THat is a separate issue from national security and the rule of law. It is a matter of cost and the fact that those who ARE here legally are supposed to know English in order to pass the tests and those who come here illegally subvert that testing process. All that extra money that has to be spent does cause some frustration because it could be dollars spent on the poor, health, veterans, education, environment. Unfortunately we’d be called uncaring racists if we didn’t spend the money.

Don’t treat us like we don’t do nothing. Don’t push us away, because we come here to help you; nothing else and in the process we are helping our families. If we had a goverment like yours we won’t be here.
And just because there are words that we don’t know in english and is hard to speak your language that don’t mean that we are talking about you. If you will come to us and say ” I can teach you to pronounce well english if you teach me spanish.” Instead of ” Don’t be speaking your mira mira stuff, because I don’t know what you are saying.” that will make us feel better, trying to get along. Is against the law to prohibit someone to speak their native language, discrimination is the word. When we apply for a job it ask if we know how to speak a language other than english and if we are fluent. It doesn’t say ” You are not allowed to speak other language other than english because is bad for our business” Think about it.:(

Stop manipulating and learn. Even more peace.