Comments on: Ruling expected soon in California exit exam case

By: constine

constine — Fri, 19 May 2006 21:36:49 +0000

to those who agreed with this test to me i don’t really like the test because it’s unfair for the students for not getting an equal apportunity, all the students who pass all their local grads. requirement will get a diploma…

By: Merry

Merry — Fri, 19 May 2006 14:03:50 +0000

One has to wonder how students who are in the 12th grade were ever allowed to GET THERE without having the basic math skills that were supposed to have been mastered in the 8th grade. This issue is a bit more involved than why seniors can’t pass a test of 8th grade math skills.
Perhaps “promotion” to the 9th grade is a better time to hold students back.

By: C. Betscha

C. Betscha — Sun, 14 May 2006 16:49:54 +0000

Does anyone understand that this is just one of the many ways this country is being effected by illegal immigration. Look who filed the lawsuit. But, I just don’t see anyone willing to address this issue.

By: benning

benning — Wed, 10 May 2006 18:25:35 +0000

Ahhh, screw it! It’s too hard to insist on passing some silly test. Let’s wait for a decade or so and then point to the failures and blame somebody else.

We’ve done it before.

By: Severian

Severian — Wed, 10 May 2006 18:14:26 +0000

The simple answer, Cynthia, is, you don’t get a diploma if you don’t pass the test. The test is an objective measurement of whether or not you learned what you were supposed to learn, as grades are easily and often inflated. A diploma is supposed to mean “this person has demostrated they have mastered a certain minimal skill set” not “this person has kept a chair in a school building warm for 12 years plus.”

By: Cynthia

Cynthia — Wed, 10 May 2006 17:27:37 +0000

What happens to the students who complete all the graduation requirements? Will they continue to take the HS Exit Exam into adulthood until they pass to receive a HS diploma? Will this discourage students to drop out of school who can’t pass the test? Whats the point in putting in 4 yrs, pass the required courses if you don’t receive a reward in the end (a diploma).. If this test is mandatory it NEVER should have been postponed years ago (to allow previous students who failed to graduate) Whats the State going to do about all the children who finished the requirements but received no diplomas? What do they do? How do you get a diploma if you can’t pass a test?

By: Big Bang Hunter

Big Bang Hunter — Wed, 10 May 2006 16:39:07 +0000

- The dumbing down of America continues unabated. Anything to avoid dealing with the core problems of public schooling, and to maintain the Teachers union, which lets face it, without that egalitarian organization teachers might actually be required to shoulder some responsibility in excellance in the profession, and most probably would have higher incomes as well, if for no other reason than the union dues they would save.

- If we never fix the schools, and just continue to paper over the problems, we will pay as a society eventually. Every child that gets “left behind by proxy”, doesn’t really achieve a reasonable level of education, will go forth into the matket place, unprepared, unskilled, un-selfsufficient to cope and compete in the work-a-day world. More potential bodies and minds for the nannystatist Socialism that some see as the end game for our country.

- Self fullfilling prophesy? As time goes by, more and more parents opt out, turning to home schooling, or privite institutions, which only exaserbates the problems, no matter the levels of Fed/State money thrown at the problem.

- We took down the airline controllers when they went against the greater public good, surely the future of our children, our country, is more important than frequent flier miles.

- One thing is sure. somethings got to give, Nothing that is this askew and important can go on being so completely usless and survive.

- I’m always moved to the feeling in watching all of the back and forth between Securalists and Religionists, Progressives, Conservatives, Politicians, Shool boards, Churches, business leaders, and just plain citizens and parents, that for reasons known only to G_d, the one thing everyone in the chaos and mix seem to be unable to focus on, is the children and their education.

- Maybe I’m old fashioned but I thought that was the whole reason for having schools in the first place. Where did we go wrong?

- Bang

By: Severian

Severian — Wed, 10 May 2006 15:25:25 +0000

Yeah, why not? Reward those who failed this year, and wait until it’s someone else’s headache to enforce the exit exam requirements. That’s the ticket!

That’s a typical reaction of the immature and childish. As long as it doesn’t get me, who cares what you do to others. Remember, we had one recently banned poster here who said he made $50K a year, and of course believed that incomes over $50K should be taxed at a 100% rate. Yeah, that’s the entire basis of class warfare and wealth envy, anyone who makes more than me, is rich. Anyone who gets more sex than me is promiscuous, anyone after me should have to prove they know enough to get out of school, but not me.

By: David Foster

David Foster — Wed, 10 May 2006 14:30:59 +0000

And in related news, a California Superior Court judge ruled that the FAA cannot deny Airline Transport Pilot certificates to applicants who have failed the written test, because not all pilots have had instructors of equal quality, and some of them attended public schools in which reading was not taught effectively. The Justice Department, acting on behalf of the FAA, has filed a motion in Federal Court to overturn to the decision on grounds of jurisdiction.

The above is satire. For now.