Comments on: The President’s immigration speech tonight http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/ Don't dis or dismiss this miss! Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:33:21 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Sister Toldjah http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-140264 Sister Toldjah Fri, 19 May 2006 01:10:36 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/#comment-140264 scmommy - please do update us when you get a chance! Really good to see you back posting :) scmommy – please do update us when you get a chance! Really good to see you back posting :)

]]> By: Lorica http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-130779 Lorica Tue, 16 May 2006 17:05:53 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/#comment-130779 I have to admit I got abit miffed with the "Doing jobs American's won't do" comment. There is a slaughter house close to this area, and 80 percent of the employees are Hispanic. A few years ago this company was in the middle of a slow down, and needed to deal with the extra employees, that they didn't want to pay unemployment too. So and "Anonymous" phone call was made to the INS. Surprise, Surprise, Surprise..... Over 175 people were illegal and deported back to their native countries. Anyway, starting wage in this place is 8.00 an hour, that is extremely low for the work that is being done. Starting wage should be closer to 11.00 but definately higher than 10.00 per hour. - Lorica I have to admit I got abit miffed with the “Doing jobs American’s won’t do” comment. There is a slaughter house close to this area, and 80 percent of the employees are Hispanic. A few years ago this company was in the middle of a slow down, and needed to deal with the extra employees, that they didn’t want to pay unemployment too. So and “Anonymous” phone call was made to the INS. Surprise, Surprise, Surprise….. Over 175 people were illegal and deported back to their native countries. Anyway, starting wage in this place is 8.00 an hour, that is extremely low for the work that is being done. Starting wage should be closer to 11.00 but definately higher than 10.00 per hour. – Lorica

]]> By: forest hunter http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-129813 forest hunter Tue, 16 May 2006 07:18:48 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/#comment-129813 Infareekeensane, Mr. Bush. I guess that's the difference between basketball and follytics, when they say to take it to the hole. Infareekeensane, Mr. Bush. I guess that’s the difference between basketball and follytics, when they say to take it to the hole.

]]> By: Big Bang Hunter http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-129396 Big Bang Hunter Tue, 16 May 2006 03:20:35 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/#comment-129396 - First off, this majorly undestated number of 11 million is total BS for the masses. There are 18+ million in the LA basin alone. The direct result of the "guest worker program" of 20 years ago. More BS. - 6000 unarmed NG. To do what. Run errands. Political fluff for an irate electorate. - 2000 miles of mostly open border. thats what you're dealing with. Keep putting it off and treating it like some sort of "annoyance", and in a few years it will be 40+ million (Ilegals are streaming across now, frantic and desperate to get here before anything is done, now that the problem is being talked about openly), and it will spiral into armed conflict. Maybe thats what will need to happen before the block heads in Washington finally wake up. - Measured influx of new citizens, assimilated as you go, is a mainstay of the American ideal. Uncontrolled mass influx, bankrupting states, overloading public services, and threatening the safety and well being of border state citizens, is a train wreck waiting to happen. - The border needs to be secured now, and fast, because the flood is ramping up faster everyday. Once things are under control, the other things can be debated; guest worker programs, tamper-proof guest worker id cards, and paths to legal citizenship. - As far as those of us in the middle of the problem are concerned, Bush kicked the can down the road again. We'll see. But if the GOP or the Donkeys think this problem is going to go away, they're all baying at the moon. - Bang **== - First off, this majorly undestated number of 11 million is total BS for the masses. There are 18+ million in the LA basin alone. The direct result of the “guest worker program” of 20 years ago. More BS.

- 6000 unarmed NG. To do what. Run errands. Political fluff for an irate electorate.

- 2000 miles of mostly open border. thats what you’re dealing with. Keep putting it off and treating it like some sort of “annoyance”, and in a few years it will be 40+ million (Ilegals are streaming across now, frantic and desperate to get here before anything is done, now that the problem is being talked about openly), and it will spiral into armed conflict. Maybe thats what will need to happen before the block heads in Washington finally wake up.

- Measured influx of new citizens, assimilated as you go, is a mainstay of the American ideal. Uncontrolled mass influx, bankrupting states, overloading public services, and threatening the safety and well being of border state citizens, is a train wreck waiting to happen.

- The border needs to be secured now, and fast, because the flood is ramping up faster everyday. Once things are under control, the other things can be debated; guest worker programs, tamper-proof guest worker id cards, and paths to legal citizenship.

- As far as those of us in the middle of the problem are concerned, Bush kicked the can down the road again. We’ll see. But if the GOP or the Donkeys think this problem is going to go away, they’re all baying at the moon.

- Bang **==

]]> By: The Sandbox http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-129337 The Sandbox Tue, 16 May 2006 02:42:49 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/#comment-129337 <strong>The President's Immigration Speech</strong> Call me uninspired. While I am happy about giving the border patrol assistance with National Guard troops, the speech was much too comprehensive for me. Too much of the same ole' stuff in this speech. Here's a bit of it:WASHINGTON The President’s Immigration Speech

Call me uninspired. While I am happy about giving the border patrol assistance with National Guard troops, the speech was much too comprehensive for me. Too much of the same ole’ stuff in this speech. Here’s a bit of it:WASHINGTON

]]> By: Iowa Voice http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-129265 Iowa Voice Tue, 16 May 2006 00:53:08 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/#comment-129265 <strong>My Reaction To The President's Speech</strong> I have to say, I'm not happy at all with the President's speech. He touched on a couple of issues that I agree with him on, but overall he's out of touch with what Americans want. The one part of the speech that stood out as being a good idea wa... My Reaction To The President’s Speech

I have to say, I’m not happy at all with the President’s speech. He touched on a couple of issues that I agree with him on, but overall he’s out of touch with what Americans want.

The one part of the speech that stood out as being a good idea wa…

]]> By: mahwah http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-129264 mahwah Tue, 16 May 2006 00:48:12 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/#comment-129264 I just listened to the speech - more of the same, nothing is going to change. If the GOP base is feeling like I do right now, and the Republican reps and Senators don't listen and come up with a strong border/immigrant policy fix, there will be some serious changes coming in the next two elections. I am so sick and tired of hearing the President say the illegals are doing jobs American aren't. HELLO!!! If the wages weren't driven down to the ground by cheap illegal labor, perhaps American citizens could <strong>afford</strong> to do them! Has he not seen the studies that show the illegal labor force is displacing American workers???!!! About the only regurgitated phrase he left out this time was that he neglected to call the Minutemen 'vigilantes' as he has in the past. I have always supported President Bush in just about every policy he has championed. This is one I cannot go along with. This is pandering politics, and Presidente Vincente is laughing in his palace right now, secure in the knowlege that the $26 Billion annual influx of US dollars from illegals into his coffers will not cease, and he can continue to export his problems without interruption. Honestly, he is. I'm in Phoenix, and I can hear him from here... I just listened to the speech – more of the same, nothing is going to change. If the GOP base is feeling like I do right now, and the Republican reps and Senators don’t listen and come up with a strong border/immigrant policy fix, there will be some serious changes coming in the next two elections. I am so sick and tired of hearing the President say the illegals are doing jobs American aren’t. HELLO!!! If the wages weren’t driven down to the ground by cheap illegal labor, perhaps American citizens could afford to do them! Has he not seen the studies that show the illegal labor force is displacing American workers???!!!

About the only regurgitated phrase he left out this time was that he neglected to call the Minutemen ‘vigilantes’ as he has in the past.

I have always supported President Bush in just about every policy he has championed. This is one I cannot go along with. This is pandering politics, and Presidente Vincente is laughing in his palace right now, secure in the knowlege that the $26 Billion annual influx of US dollars from illegals into his coffers will not cease, and he can continue to export his problems without interruption.

Honestly, he is. I’m in Phoenix, and I can hear him from here…

]]> By: G Monster http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-129255 G Monster Mon, 15 May 2006 23:52:10 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/#comment-129255 The dems are already done writing thier rebuttal, and they haven't even heard his speech. The dems are already done writing thier rebuttal, and they haven’t even heard his speech.

]]> By: camojack http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-129247 camojack Mon, 15 May 2006 23:21:31 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/#comment-129247 Obviously <em>something</em> needs to be done, before the situation gets even <em><strong>further</strong></em> out of hand... **== Obviously something needs to be done, before the situation gets even further out of hand… **==

]]> By: Lorica http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-129235 Lorica Mon, 15 May 2006 22:00:56 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/#comment-129235 Well it Tony Snow has something to do with this speech it might be worth listening too. He was a speech writer for GW's Dad. I have hope, but I can be an eternally foolish optimist too. :) I have hope that the leadership on the left will come to their senses too. I guess I am saying if there is nothing else, there is always hope. - Lorica Well it Tony Snow has something to do with this speech it might be worth listening too. He was a speech writer for GW’s Dad. I have hope, but I can be an eternally foolish optimist too. :) I have hope that the leadership on the left will come to their senses too. I guess I am saying if there is nothing else, there is always hope. – Lorica

]]> By: Baklava http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-129147 Baklava Mon, 15 May 2006 21:00:36 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/#comment-129147 Glad to see you scmommy. We've been holding down the fort here.... Glad to see you scmommy.

We’ve been holding down the fort here….

]]> By: scmommy http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-129141 scmommy Mon, 15 May 2006 20:03:23 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/#comment-129141 Fox is showing '24' at 9:20pm - I'll have the munchin in bed, remote in on hand and a glass of wine in the other. No point in turning the tv on before then, no doubt the message the Pres. gives will be more of the same. :(( PS - Sorry I've been gone so long. Will post about my latest adventures later this week ST! Fox is showing ‘24′ at 9:20pm – I’ll have the munchin in bed, remote in on hand and a glass of wine in the other. No point in turning the tv on before then, no doubt the message the Pres. gives will be more of the same. :((

PS – Sorry I’ve been gone so long. Will post about my latest adventures later this week ST!

]]> By: Pajamas Media http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-128995 Pajamas Media Mon, 15 May 2006 17:35:38 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/#comment-128995 <strong>Immigration Nation: News and Views</strong> This item will be updated throughout the day. Check back. Halperin et. al. @ The Note offer "10 ½ clean big non-secrets about immigration as a political issue." Washington Post:The We Are America Alliance of Hispanic interest groups looks for... Immigration Nation: News and Views

This item will be updated throughout the day. Check back. Halperin et. al. @ The Note offer “10 ½ clean big non-secrets about immigration as a political issue.” Washington Post:The We Are America Alliance of Hispanic interest groups looks for…

]]> By: Lorica http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-128993 Lorica Mon, 15 May 2006 17:34:20 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/#comment-128993 You all don't understand. If we fast track these people thru the immigration process, we can have new voters in as little as 3 years. If we cater to these people we might be re-elected by the extra votes. /Sarcasm off The short-sightedness, and stupidity of it all is overwhelming. I believe that those elected officials that vote for this legislation, will not reap a single benefit from this legislation. Especially the "Red State" elected officials. I hope that most of the "yes men" will be voted out of office the next time they run. Like I said earlier, we seriously need to get some real conservatives in these offices. I hope that GW will put the National Guard on the border even temporarily if for no other reason than the saftey of the illegals. Then there will be medical attention for the illegals that are coming thru the border. Too many times I have read stories about illegals being left in the desert by the people they paid to get them thru. This is a sad state of affairs, and a strong border will deal with illegals coming over the border. Then we need to resolve the situation with the illegals that are already here. Also hopefully the Government will be able to increase the number of border agents during the time the NG is deployed. - Lorica You all don’t understand. If we fast track these people thru the immigration process, we can have new voters in as little as 3 years. If we cater to these people we might be re-elected by the extra votes.
/Sarcasm off

The short-sightedness, and stupidity of it all is overwhelming. I believe that those elected officials that vote for this legislation, will not reap a single benefit from this legislation. Especially the “Red State” elected officials. I hope that most of the “yes men” will be voted out of office the next time they run. Like I said earlier, we seriously need to get some real conservatives in these offices.

I hope that GW will put the National Guard on the border even temporarily if for no other reason than the saftey of the illegals. Then there will be medical attention for the illegals that are coming thru the border. Too many times I have read stories about illegals being left in the desert by the people they paid to get them thru. This is a sad state of affairs, and a strong border will deal with illegals coming over the border. Then we need to resolve the situation with the illegals that are already here. Also hopefully the Government will be able to increase the number of border agents during the time the NG is deployed. – Lorica

]]> By: Big Bang Hunter http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-128986 Big Bang Hunter Mon, 15 May 2006 17:18:37 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/05/15/the-presidents-immigration-speech-tonight/#comment-128986 - I hear you Sev... Fortunately for the Polito-dudes and dudess's, the citizenry is prohibitd from a more "expressive" way of registering their desires... *snort* - Bang **== - I hear you Sev… Fortunately for the Polito-dudes and dudess’s, the citizenry is prohibitd from a more “expressive” way of registering their desires… *snort*

- Bang **==

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