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	<description>Don&#039;t dis or dismiss this miss!</description>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/06/03/weekend-open-thread-2/comment-page-1/#comment-190770</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 12:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s just it Bang.

They think differently than we do. They actually think of stuff like herding people in a room and executing them with a bullet to the head and slaughtering the cattle and will make those accusations without realizing how it looks like baseless charges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s just it Bang.</p>
<p>They think differently than we do. They actually think of stuff like herding people in a room and executing them with a bullet to the head and slaughtering the cattle and will make those accusations without realizing how it looks like baseless charges.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Bang Hunter</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/06/03/weekend-open-thread-2/comment-page-1/#comment-189893</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Bang Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 04:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- The problem they have Bak is as the &quot;stories&quot; of atrocities spiral out of control they&#039;ll lose credibility steadily till it just becomes another Jihadist trick. The handcuffed bit is just not credible, and thats just for starters. The problem the Jihadists have is they think differently than we do, hence the slaughterd cattle etc. total BS. That has all the markings of what you say when yoou&#039;re trying desperately to make it another Mai Lei, and it doesn&#039;t help your voracity when you show pictures from an entirely different incident that didn&#039;t even involve US forces. I have a feeling before this is over it&#039;s less than meets the eye.

- Bang **==</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- The problem they have Bak is as the &#8220;stories&#8221; of atrocities spiral out of control they&#8217;ll lose credibility steadily till it just becomes another Jihadist trick. The handcuffed bit is just not credible, and thats just for starters. The problem the Jihadists have is they think differently than we do, hence the slaughterd cattle etc. total BS. That has all the markings of what you say when yoou&#8217;re trying desperately to make it another Mai Lei, and it doesn&#8217;t help your voracity when you show pictures from an entirely different incident that didn&#8217;t even involve US forces. I have a feeling before this is over it&#8217;s less than meets the eye.</p>
<p>- Bang <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_flag.gif' alt='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' class='wp-smiley' width='25' height='18' title='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' /></p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/06/03/weekend-open-thread-2/comment-page-1/#comment-188932</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 18:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle Malkin points out a Mudville Gazette post concerning Ishaqi. 

In it is this message from Maj. Gen. William B. Caldwell IV the Multi-National Force-Iraq spokesman:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The forces, upon arrival, began taking direct fire from the building. As the enemy fire persisted, the ground force commander appropriately reacted by incrementally escalating the use of force from small arms fire to rotary wing aviation, and then to close air support, ultimately eliminating the threat.

The troops then conducted a thorough tactical search, and documented the discovery of the body of Abu Ahmed plus three noncombatants. The investigating officer concluded that possibly up to nine collateral deaths resulted from this engagement but could not determine the precise number due to collapsed walls and heavy debris. Allegations that the troops executed a family living in this safe house, and then hid the alleged crimes by directing an air strike, are absolutely false.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

An local account of the event was told as:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The villagers were killed after U.S. troops herded them into a single room of the house, according to a police document obtained by Knight Ridder Newspapers, the parent company of The Inquirer. The soldiers also burned three vehicles, killed the villagers&#039; &lt;strong&gt;animals&lt;/strong&gt;, and blew up the house, the document said.

A local police commander, Lt. Col. Farooq Hussain, who was interviewed in Ishaqi, said autopsies at the hospital in Tikrit &quot;revealed that all the victims had bullet shots in the head and &lt;strong&gt;all bodies were handcuffed&lt;/strong&gt;.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Mudville Gazette writer then notes: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;Current news coverage doesn&#039;t mention much of that Iraqi police report either, though the original &quot;document based on a report&quot; is oft-quoted.

It&#039;s possible the media assumes everyone is already deeply familiar with the particulars in this story. Maybe they feel brevity is important, and that readers don&#039;t want to be burdened with too much information.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If I was a LEFTY, I could have a FIELD DAY with lots of propoganda to swirl around everywhere (as Andrew Sullivan seems to be doing lately). But I&#039;m not a lefty. My red flags of common sense raise up and my disbelief in the outrageous &quot;stories&quot; grows. I&#039;m just not BUYING the lies you guys. I can see a soldier going bonkers but not a group of them. And if a group of them crossed a &quot;line&quot; I&#039;m thinkning it was in response to their lives being threatened and adrenaline pumping and a quick response to their lives being threatened. Once the threat is eliminated I&#039;m not picturing (thus the disbelief) that our soldiers are going around beheading, handcuffing babies, slaughtering animals and executing families in a single room with a single bullet to each of their heads. 

The police report filed that way by that Iraqi police chief indicates that the Iraqi police chief should be REMOVED from his position and sent to a trial for crimes !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle Malkin points out a Mudville Gazette post concerning Ishaqi. </p>
<p>In it is this message from Maj. Gen. William B. Caldwell IV the Multi-National Force-Iraq spokesman:</p>
<blockquote><p>The forces, upon arrival, began taking direct fire from the building. As the enemy fire persisted, the ground force commander appropriately reacted by incrementally escalating the use of force from small arms fire to rotary wing aviation, and then to close air support, ultimately eliminating the threat.</p>
<p>The troops then conducted a thorough tactical search, and documented the discovery of the body of Abu Ahmed plus three noncombatants. The investigating officer concluded that possibly up to nine collateral deaths resulted from this engagement but could not determine the precise number due to collapsed walls and heavy debris. Allegations that the troops executed a family living in this safe house, and then hid the alleged crimes by directing an air strike, are absolutely false.</p></blockquote>
<p>An local account of the event was told as:</p>
<blockquote><p>The villagers were killed after U.S. troops herded them into a single room of the house, according to a police document obtained by Knight Ridder Newspapers, the parent company of The Inquirer. The soldiers also burned three vehicles, killed the villagers&#8217; <strong>animals</strong>, and blew up the house, the document said.</p>
<p>A local police commander, Lt. Col. Farooq Hussain, who was interviewed in Ishaqi, said autopsies at the hospital in Tikrit &#8220;revealed that all the victims had bullet shots in the head and <strong>all bodies were handcuffed</strong>.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Mudville Gazette writer then notes: </p>
<blockquote><p>Current news coverage doesn&#8217;t mention much of that Iraqi police report either, though the original &#8220;document based on a report&#8221; is oft-quoted.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible the media assumes everyone is already deeply familiar with the particulars in this story. Maybe they feel brevity is important, and that readers don&#8217;t want to be burdened with too much information.</p></blockquote>
<p>If I was a LEFTY, I could have a FIELD DAY with lots of propoganda to swirl around everywhere (as Andrew Sullivan seems to be doing lately). But I&#8217;m not a lefty. My red flags of common sense raise up and my disbelief in the outrageous &#8220;stories&#8221; grows. I&#8217;m just not BUYING the lies you guys. I can see a soldier going bonkers but not a group of them. And if a group of them crossed a &#8220;line&#8221; I&#8217;m thinkning it was in response to their lives being threatened and adrenaline pumping and a quick response to their lives being threatened. Once the threat is eliminated I&#8217;m not picturing (thus the disbelief) that our soldiers are going around beheading, handcuffing babies, slaughtering animals and executing families in a single room with a single bullet to each of their heads. </p>
<p>The police report filed that way by that Iraqi police chief indicates that the Iraqi police chief should be REMOVED from his position and sent to a trial for crimes !</p>
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		<title>By: Big Bang Hunter</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/06/03/weekend-open-thread-2/comment-page-1/#comment-188919</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Bang Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 18:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- Oh, and in typical Left-wing fashion, the article itself was 90% about the dashed hopes of Chevez, and the proud &quot;Working peoples party&quot;, the normal appologizing claptrap, and barely a mention in passing about Garcis&#039;s success, and the fact that non-Leftist voters had to be protected by army units to be able to vote, as renagade Chevez/Humala insurgents attacked, and tried to block voting places. Nice huh? the peoples party my tush.

- Bang **==</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- Oh, and in typical Left-wing fashion, the article itself was 90% about the dashed hopes of Chevez, and the proud &#8220;Working peoples party&#8221;, the normal appologizing claptrap, and barely a mention in passing about Garcis&#8217;s success, and the fact that non-Leftist voters had to be protected by army units to be able to vote, as renagade Chevez/Humala insurgents attacked, and tried to block voting places. Nice huh? the peoples party my tush.</p>
<p>- Bang <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_flag.gif' alt='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' class='wp-smiley' width='25' height='18' title='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' /></p>
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		<title>By: Big Bang Hunter</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/06/03/weekend-open-thread-2/comment-page-1/#comment-188822</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Bang Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 17:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- Well I found the Peru election results on page 16 of the local Liberal polito-rag that passes for a city newspaper, if thats any indication Mwa. It just kills them to have to print ANYTHING good for the Conservatives.

- Bang **==</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- Well I found the Peru election results on page 16 of the local Liberal polito-rag that passes for a city newspaper, if thats any indication Mwa. It just kills them to have to print ANYTHING good for the Conservatives.</p>
<p>- Bang <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_flag.gif' alt='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' class='wp-smiley' width='25' height='18' title='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' /></p>
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		<title>By: Mwalimu Daudi</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/06/03/weekend-open-thread-2/comment-page-1/#comment-188797</link>
		<dc:creator>Mwalimu Daudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 16:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198171,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Two Saddam-Era Mass Graves Found&lt;/a&gt;

Do you suppose that the MSM will give it the coverage that Haditha has already gotten?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198171,00.html" rel="nofollow">Two Saddam-Era Mass Graves Found</a></p>
<p>Do you suppose that the MSM will give it the coverage that Haditha has already gotten?</p>
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		<title>By: Big Bang Hunter</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/06/03/weekend-open-thread-2/comment-page-1/#comment-188753</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Bang Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 16:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Breaking&lt;/strong&gt; - Peru elects Conservative Democrat Alan Garcia President.... Chevez backed Marxist Ollania Humala Humiliated....Sheehan and Belefonte in seclusionâ€¦ 

(Lib-Twits of a feather....)

- Bang **==</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Breaking</strong> &#8211; Peru elects Conservative Democrat Alan Garcia President&#8230;. Chevez backed Marxist Ollania Humala Humiliated&#8230;.Sheehan and Belefonte in seclusionâ€¦ </p>
<p>(Lib-Twits of a feather&#8230;.)</p>
<p>- Bang <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_flag.gif' alt='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' class='wp-smiley' width='25' height='18' title='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' /></p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/06/03/weekend-open-thread-2/comment-page-1/#comment-188584</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 14:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana Pico &lt;a href=&quot;http://commonsensepoliticalthought.com/?p=540#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;responded to Robert Kennedy&#039;s poor piece of work &lt;/a&gt;with lots of footnotes to make it look like he did great work. 

Thought others would like to read this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana Pico <a href="http://commonsensepoliticalthought.com/?p=540#comments" rel="nofollow">responded to Robert Kennedy&#8217;s poor piece of work </a>with lots of footnotes to make it look like he did great work. </p>
<p>Thought others would like to read this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Severian</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/06/03/weekend-open-thread-2/comment-page-1/#comment-188372</link>
		<dc:creator>Severian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 11:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shoot, you don&#039;t even have to be alive to vote Democrat, let alone a citizen. 8-&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shoot, you don&#8217;t even have to be alive to vote Democrat, let alone a citizen. <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_eyeroll.gif' alt='&#56;&#45;&#124;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#56;&#45;&#124;' /></p>
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		<title>By: PCD</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/06/03/weekend-open-thread-2/comment-page-1/#comment-188366</link>
		<dc:creator>PCD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 11:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s how desperate the Democrats are to win.  Their candidate to take Duke Cunningham&#039;s seat is asking for Illegals and non-citizens to vote for her.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/50thdistrict/20060603-9999-1mi3busby.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Democrat Busby says, &quot;You don&#039;t need papers.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  Of course, she and the Democrats are running like cockroaches from the light on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s how desperate the Democrats are to win.  Their candidate to take Duke Cunningham&#8217;s seat is asking for Illegals and non-citizens to vote for her.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/50thdistrict/20060603-9999-1mi3busby.html" rel="nofollow"><strong>Democrat Busby says, &#8220;You don&#8217;t need papers.&#8221;</strong></a>  Of course, she and the Democrats are running like cockroaches from the light on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Bang Hunter</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/06/03/weekend-open-thread-2/comment-page-1/#comment-186482</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Bang Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- From &quot;A good blustering offense is the best defense&quot;...Shock will be hearing from Yon&#039;s lawyer I&#039;m sure...

- Bang **==</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- From &#8220;A good blustering offense is the best defense&#8221;&#8230;Shock will be hearing from Yon&#8217;s lawyer I&#8217;m sure&#8230;</p>
<p>- Bang <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_flag.gif' alt='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' class='wp-smiley' width='25' height='18' title='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' /></p>
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		<title>By: sanity</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/06/03/weekend-open-thread-2/comment-page-1/#comment-185841</link>
		<dc:creator>sanity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 10:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://centerforsanity.blogspot.com/2006/06/michael-yon-blasts-shock-magazine-for.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Michael Yon blasts SHOCK Magazine for Illegal Use of Picture&lt;/a&gt;

SHOCK magazine, has used the famous &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.michaelyon-online.com/media/images/disp/blogger-archives/0059.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;photograph&lt;/a&gt; that Michael Yon took and wrote the accompaning story about Major Mark Bieger cradling a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/little-girl.htm/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;young Iraqi girl Farah&lt;/a&gt;, who was mortally wounded in an insurgent car bomb attack that brutally targeted a group of children who had run out to greet the soldiers on patrol. 

This magazine has used his copyrighted picture, without permission or consent, to smear the troops with a caption that reads:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
WAR IS STILL HELL! 
Jarring Proof that Iraq is the new Vietnam.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

When the company is pressed by Michael Yon, they give him the run around and refuse to remove the phtograph or remove the issues that they have as the FRONTPAGE cover photo.

When Michael Yon publishes information to allow readers to voice their displeasure on his blog, Michael Yon is threatened with Libel from the company that stole his copyrighted material!

Unbelieveable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://centerforsanity.blogspot.com/2006/06/michael-yon-blasts-shock-magazine-for.html" rel="nofollow">Michael Yon blasts SHOCK Magazine for Illegal Use of Picture</a></p>
<p>SHOCK magazine, has used the famous <a href="http://www.michaelyon-online.com/media/images/disp/blogger-archives/0059.jpg" rel="nofollow">photograph</a> that Michael Yon took and wrote the accompaning story about Major Mark Bieger cradling a <a href="http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/little-girl.htm/" rel="nofollow">young Iraqi girl Farah</a>, who was mortally wounded in an insurgent car bomb attack that brutally targeted a group of children who had run out to greet the soldiers on patrol. </p>
<p>This magazine has used his copyrighted picture, without permission or consent, to smear the troops with a caption that reads:</p>
<blockquote><p>
WAR IS STILL HELL!<br />
Jarring Proof that Iraq is the new Vietnam.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>When the company is pressed by Michael Yon, they give him the run around and refuse to remove the phtograph or remove the issues that they have as the FRONTPAGE cover photo.</p>
<p>When Michael Yon publishes information to allow readers to voice their displeasure on his blog, Michael Yon is threatened with Libel from the company that stole his copyrighted material!</p>
<p>Unbelieveable.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/06/03/weekend-open-thread-2/comment-page-1/#comment-184422</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 02:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:&quot;&gt;

I never get much cut off my hair ... just get it trimmed enough to keep the layers in good shape. I go every six weeks - it&#039;s the one little luxury I allow myself (that and the occasional manicure) :)

(Thanks for the compliment, BTW)</description>
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<p>I never get much cut off my hair &#8230; just get it trimmed enough to keep the layers in good shape. I go every six weeks &#8211; it&#8217;s the one little luxury I allow myself (that and the occasional manicure) <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_smiley.gif' alt='&#58;&#41;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#58;&#41;' /></p>
<p>(Thanks for the compliment, BTW)</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 01:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You never did tell us if you cut that gorgeous hair -- something which would send your male readers as far over the edge as Steve already is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You never did tell us if you cut that gorgeous hair &#8212; something which would send your male readers as far over the edge as Steve already is.</p>
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