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AQ: Bush must 'admit defeat' in Iraq
Via CNN:
(CNN) — An Arabic language news network has aired a video of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden’s top lieutenant, in which he called on U.S. President George W. Bush to admit defeat in Iraq.
Al-Jazeera said the video, which is about a minute long, was made in December.
According to CNN’s translation of the video, Ayman al-Zawahiri offers his condolences to Pakistan for the October 8 earthquake before congratulating fellow Muslims for what he says is a victory in Iraq.
He refers to a November 30 speech in which Bush reiterated the U.S. position that its military would leave Iraq once Iraqi forces were fully trained, without laying out a timetable.
The video, which had been edited, shows the gray-bearded al-Zawahiri seated, wearing glasses, a white headdress, a white sash, a gray shirt and a clip-on microphone.
As he speaks, he is constantly pointing at the camera with his right hand, but his voice remains calm. Behind him is a gun propped up on a brown wall.
The video has English subtitles and shows the logo of the production company, As-Sahab, which has produced previous al Qaeda videos as well as videos from the 9/11 bombers.
Here is the full translation of the video as it aired on Al-Jazeera:
“Even though I send my condolences to my Islamic nation for the tragedy of the earthquake in Pakistan, today I congratulate everyone for the victory in Iraq. You remember, my dear Muslim brethren, what I told you more than a year ago, that the U.S. troops will pull out of Iraq. It was only a matter of time.
“Here they are now and in the blessing of God begging to pull out, seeking negotiations with the mujahedeen. And here is Bush who was forced to announce at the end of last November that he will be pulling his troops out of Iraq.
“He uses the pretext that the Iraqi forces reached a high level of preparedness. But he doesn’t have a timetable for the pullout.
“If all of his troops — air force, army — are begging for a way to get out of Iraq, will the liars, traitors and infidels succeed in what the world superpower failed to achieve in Iraq?
“You have set the timetable for the withdrawal a long time ago and Bush, you have to admit that you were defeated in Iraq, you are being defeated in Afghanistan, and you will be defeated in Palestine, God willing.”
Hmmm, ya think the enemy has been paying attention to what’s been said amongst the cut and run crowd?
Nah.
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Uh-huh, and just who were the liberals here trying to say that the crap coming out of the mouths of Cut and Run Democrats like Murtha, Reid, and Pelosi didn’t matter and was’t connected to the people in the Middle East?
I register my contempt here and now for them.
You folks are very amusing, sadly so. If you for one minute believe that the “enemy” cares a jot or tittle about what anyone says you are mistaken. Further they are in the middle of the fighting and have a far better idea of the truth and reality around them than do we sitting thousands of miles away. Get a grip , the only way to win is to discredit the fanatics-Zionists,Wahhabist and Armageddonists. Did you notice that the Shi’ites are being blown up by the Sunnis(Wahhabists) and that the Armageddonists(bush,Robertson) are assisting the Zionists(neo-cons)? That is the true axis of evil. Peace
- Well congratulations again to the Defeat-o-crats. You’ve now become the American regional mouth-piece and front group for the Jihad. No doubt you can count on a heavy turnout of Jihadist vote in the upcoming elections. Unfortunately to the majority of Americans, I would imagine thats not going to sit well at the voting booth. Brilliant stratedgy. Just brilliant.
- Actually in spite of the “dis-loyal” oppositions brainless efforts, on one level this may be a good sign. Whereas earlier in the WOT, the Islamist godfathers were using press releases in a more indirect, subtle way, theres a definate ratcheting up in terms of direct rhetoric, in what might be seen as a desperate “rally the thugs” type of outright lying, in the manner of Bhagdad Bob.
- No one really knows how things will play out in Iraq, but ones things sure. As the Iragui’s themselves build a sense of personal involvement in their own survival and future, the murdering factions will find it harder and harder to perform acts of terror and garner Iraq public support. I’m sure thats what Zarqawi/Al-Zawahiri are trying to forestall.
- Things do hang in the balance, and it would be kind of useful if the Dhimmycrats would stop their partisan yammering, but apparently they put their own political fortunes above the rest of the world. At this point I personally would not vote a Democrat for dog catcher. Not until I see the party form a serious social plan and shake off the strangglehold of the extreme leftist socialist cult that is running the show right now.
- BTW, based on that last paragraph, hopefully we’ve heard the last of the Liberalcrat screeds about how there is “no connection” between the various Jihadist groups. Obviously its all part of the same murdering animal, in the leader of the Wasabi criminals own words.
- Bang
- Wahhabi…. Wisabi is good on turnips… *chuckle*
- Bang
Just as we always knew, AQ has CNN, MSNBC, and the alphabet networks! Bet they have a subscription to the NY Times too (probably a free one!).
I am sure the democraps and Cindy (Sheethead) are thumping each other on the back with glee.
The peaceful religion my foot!
For shame!
Bang, When pigs fly! *chuckle* Peace
Thank God our leader won’t admit defeat. I hope we elect another strong leader after Bush leaves office.
Arnold after the last “special election” changed course and said he’s “learned” and is now spending CA into oblivion. If Bush capitulated to popular opinion (due to the mainstream press’s misinformation) I’d lose any respect I had for Bush.
And once again you prove you have no grip on reality steve.
Get a clue.
Steve,
Just a quick note, for I could not let this pass.
Carefully read what OBL LT is saying, it…can it be…..why yes, it does sound almost identical to the democratic talking points.
In some wierd way I wonder if this was not Kennedy with Pelosi directing, for it seems like just the type of stuff that comes from thier mouths on a daily basis.
You don’t think that the enemy listens to the media? Why do you think they allow the media reporters to bed in with them, posing for pictures with RPGs and rifles?
I will not call them stupid, these terrorists, if they are smart they watch our media very closely, see where the holes are in the US security (leaks on how intelligence is gathered is good for them), and watch to see how the media and the public react to certain things, what break thier Will and lessens the resolve to stay there.
I am not sure who is more foolish, the media and leakers thinking they are ‘helping’ by divulging classified information and putting our troops and the US citizens in greater peril….
or the thought that the terrorists are nothing more than teenagers with short attention spans. They won’t watch TV, read papers, listen to reports to see how thier attacks affect the US resolve.
Terrorists watch, they listen, they look for what is effective.
If kidnapping works and gets troop withdrawl (Spain), they will continue to do it if they find success in it.
If Kidnapping and threat of death gets them more money with ransoms (Germany), they will continue to do it, since it works.
Appeasement of terrorists only leads to more terrorism.
sanity, requires Peace, not violence and war. The world has become far to small to allow the warmongers to be in charge. The war way will never work because it has never worked. Look around at the condition of the world today, it has been brought to us by people who believe that you can kill masses of human beings into obedience. This is the “spare the rod and spoil the child” group and their philosophy needs to be added to the “ash heap” of history, non-violently. Peace
steve,
You are wrong.
Saying that war does not work ignores a massive amount of history where conflicts and problems were solved by war.
Now I grant you the stupidity of putting “war” on everything like War on drugs, war on guns, war on..whatever, I know that doesn’t work, and in my personal opinion that is just a play on words and nothing more.
As for actual war, especially in Iraq, you must be tuning into the MSM and ignoring everything else if you think it is not helping. You seem to ignore the fact that Saddam has been removed, the Iraqis have VOTED themselves a new government and a new consitution to govern themselves not seen in DECADES. Other countries have taken notice and there is a spark of wanting more in those countries from thier own citizens. Syria was made to leave Lebanon by the Lebanese, not us, but the want to govern themselves.
Peace cannot be had by appeasement. You can talk all you want, but you want to compare talking and action, then compare the US actions vs the UN. the UN is nothing but talk, but it takes the actions of a few to make changes. You may not believe in the war, you may believe it was all a lie, all for oil, all for one company, Halliburton, but then you are only getting one sided information which is untrue. When people say it was for the Oil, I would liek to know, have we received any oil from Iraq at all? Have we taken anything? Granted if we do take or ask for a discounted amount, I would not have any qualms about it after spending Billions in rebuilding them.
Funny you mention warmongers being in charge, yet it wa a warmonger we removed from power, Saddam, who invaded Kuwait and went to war with Iran. Who as of recently intelligence reports translated from Iraq have found that he supported and encouraged terrorism and terrorist training camps in Iraq.
Look here for more info:
LINK
While we have barely scratched the surface of Iraq’s intelligence records, it is already obvious that Saddam was a major supporter and enabler of Islamic terrorism.
If as you say Bush is a warmonger and you believe that he kills masses of human beings into obedience (which that perfectly describes Saddam and not Bush) why would he not do this to say, Democrats that oppose him? The moonbats out there? Codepink? Michael Moore? Moveon.org? Why are these people still standing?
Your claims are rediculous and way off base. If Bush was guilty of such, the democrats I would hope would find some sort of spine and band together and tell the world, but most felt the same way that Bush did, they had the same intell that he had, they raised the same concerns and stated the same things back before Bush was even in office.
By the way, the “spare the rod spoil the child” I take you mean the Christian groups or those who believe in God, sicne you take the quote which comes fro mthe Bible. You seemed ot be misinformed yet again, since “spare the rod spoil the child” does not have any meaning to war, but more to how to raise a child, and it does not mean beat your child as that is probably next to come out.
“Both the law of God and the law of man are indeed complimentary and can both be obeyed if you view the “rod” in the verses not as a tool of pain and injury, but figuratively as the wooden rod of a shepherd and the way he uses it as a “rod of correction” to guide and direct.”
This gives you a more appropriate view, since it does not mean to literally beat with a rod, but to correct.
Read here for more information if you choose to learn more:
LINK
This is another:
“From The Bible, Old Testament Proverbs 13-24 – He that spareth his rod hateth his son.”
Those who do not correct, guide and raise thier children correctly, hate them, is how I take that.
A little more if ST doesn’t mind:
“He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.” — Proverbs 13: 24 (KJV)
The Kingdom of God, however, is about right relationships – and the obligations these carry, to love God and each other. Children, therefore, must obey their parents; but parents, equally, must not exasperate their children (Ephesians 6.4).
Punishment should ultimately seek to restore an offender to their community or family, not to alienate or physically harm them. And if we ever lose sight of that goal, we’ll risk making a rod for our own backs.
Since “the rod” was essentially a sign of punishment that was used as context, but it does not literally mean to beat with a rod, thier are other forms of punishment. It does mean that “spoiling” a child, without correction or guidance can lead to a corrupted child.
By your stating the “spare the rod spoil the child groups”, I take it you are talking about the Christians, or those who believe in the Bible, that you wish to add them and thier attitudes, thoughts and opinions to the “ash-heap” of history. You might be suprised at just what you suggest and how many your “suggestion encompasses.
When I speak of “spare the rod” groups my reference is to any individual or group that feels violence accomplishes anything positive. For example: the Wahhabists, the Zionists and the Armageddonists, are all fine examples of those who believe that the use of violence will bring Peace. As for bush & co. not wanting to destroy their enemies I say: McCain and Plame and countless others through the years cut to pieces by Rove. Today’s Republicans are corrupt, greedy and warlike. Time for a change. Peace
Full of name calling again. You haven’t learned…
I can’t see it Baklava….which name, who? Peace
Look at your posts just a little longer. Every one of them have been full of name calling and accusations. I’m sure you can see it if you try. Are you trying?
Let’s try this sentence of yours, “… are corrupt, greedy and warlike”.
And Steve wants a bloodbath. Why Steve?
Maybe they were just listening to a moron who said, “Bring it on” to the insurgents.
BTW, I saw where we won’t be “restructuring” Iraq.
If it’s “Cut and Run” when Dems call for it, what do they call it when Reps propose it? Just wondering.
Baklava,
“Bush doesn’t capitualte to public opinion.” You, my friend, are a hoot.
Loved the way he stood up to the creation of the 911 Commission (for a few minutes, anyway) or the Dept. of Homeland Security (ditto, until he found out how to pay off his favors through it).
What will you call it when Bush pulls the troops out of Iraq before the ‘06 elections?
I ask because “Cut and Run” is already taken.
Bush=Flip-flopper.
In the face of liberal criticism he is standing firm on a whole host of issues.
Additionally 80% of the country is against illegal immigration and it hasn’t been shut down.
He didn’t stand against a 9/11 commission as you assert (you are another fulfiller of the liberal pattern of attack and accuse), nor the Department of Homeland Security per say. He signed it into law after being passed by Congress. He was trying to have things passed without the Airline security personnel being unionized (as I remember) and I personally agree with him on that issue. He didn’t have the votes to overcome a veto so your characterization is FLAT wrong. Additionally, I’m not sure of your point. You guys RAIL on the Pres daily and he doesn’t CHANGE into the direction of pleasing you guys even though he is LEFT of CENTER. He seems to commit to something and work dilligently towards it to the dismay of leftists.
Your characterization of pulling the troops out steadily after the Iraq December 05 elections as “cut and run is AMUSING at best and predicted by those of us on the “right” (I’m a centrist).
Robert = ATTACKING INCORRECT ACCUSER