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camojack says:

August 10, 2006 at 8:56 am

Republicans already painting Lieberman loss as a signal Dems are weak on national security

Basically, it is…they are. #-o
carla says:

August 10, 2006 at 11:08 am

The RNC has indeed done as I’d hoped and have kicked things up into high gear in response to Lieberman’s loss, and it started off yesterday with comments made by the RNC’s Ken Mehlman. VP Dick Cheney, whose statement I posted here, made it very clear what he thinks of the defeat of Joe Lieberman by nut-, er, netroots candidate Ned Lamont.

Why does the GOP care so much about a primary race between two Democrats? Because honestly, the GOP is desperate. Trotting out the head of the party and the Vice President to comment on a Democratic primary? Even you have to find that pretty amazing.

The TIME article smacks of a reporter too long inside The Beltway. Most Americans don’t care that much about Joe Lieberman or if he’s in the Senate. Given that a hefty majority are extremely uncomfortable with the Iraq War, its unlikely that most bat an eyelash at what happened to Joe yesterday.

What went on in the primary was about a Senator who’d loss touch with his constituents not just on the Iraq War, but on a host of issues. So they booted his butt out.

That’s called accountability. And its something Republicans quit doing awhile ago.
Sister Toldjah says:

August 10, 2006 at 11:14 am

“What went on in the primary was about a Senator who’d loss touch with his constituents not just on the Iraq War, but on a host of issues. So they booted his butt out.

That’s called accountability. And its something Republicans quit doing awhile ago.”

ROTFL! If this was about accountabilty then my name is Hillary Clinton. You guys are a laugh a minute in how you just make up stuff about why Lieberman lost. This was about Bush hate and Lieberman not toeing the cut and run party line the far left requires them to. So I guess in that respect, your bit about “accountability” may be right on, because your party made it clear that if others don’t toe that line, they will be held accountable. I hope you pay dearly for it in November.
carla says:

August 10, 2006 at 12:14 pm

ROTFL! If this was about accountabilty then my name is Hillary Clinton. You guys are a laugh a minute in how you just make up stuff about why Lieberman lost. This was about Bush hate and Lieberman not toeing the cut and run party line the far left requires them to. So I guess in that respect, your bit about “accountability” may be right on, because your party made it clear that if others don’t toe that line, they will be held accountable. I hope you pay dearly for it in November.

Ah yes..its all about Hillary for you guys, isn’t it?

If and when Hillary loses touch with her constituents, they’ll get rid of her. Just like Joe’s just jettisoned him. Your response even sounds defensive. Wipe your brow, dearie. You’re sweating.

If this was about hating Bush and not towing the party line–Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Ben Nelson and several other Dems would be in trouble, too. Obviously that’s not the case. Unlike the GOP, ideological purity isn’t a prerequisite for admission into the Dems.

The party “paying dearly” in November will be the Republicans..and we both know it.
Sister Toldjah says:

August 10, 2006 at 12:17 pm

LOL – you guys really are delusional. You can’t launch a credible counter attack to Hillary because she’s crush any opponent who stood in her path.

And on being “defensive” it’s not me who is trying so hard to persuade people this isn’t about “hating Bush” – so wipe your own brow, hon, and dry your nose while you’re at it.
Dave in CO says:

August 10, 2006 at 12:21 pm

Hey Carla – How about a little wager? I’ll donate $50 to your favorite charity (Air America, no doubt) if Joe fails to beat Lyin’ Ned in November. And when Joe wins, you can donate to mine. Game?

Given that a hefty majority are extremely uncomfortable with the Iraq War

Yeah. Let’s never forget that its all about the Left’s “comfort level”. No doubt, it was uncomfortable in the plastic shredder under Saddam. But that was just for brown folk, right Carla?
G Monster says:

August 10, 2006 at 1:05 pm

Nice. We finally have someone to debate with.

Carla, Lamont is going to get spanked by Lieberman is the november election.

How about a friendly bet? When Lieberman wins, you wash my car. Should Lamont win, I will wash yours.
sanity says:

August 10, 2006 at 1:18 pm

My question is this:

When Lieberman wins as an Independent, what kind of grudge or hard feelings will he hold toward the party that stabbed him in the back?

And how will that affect his voting in the future….
Lorica says:

August 10, 2006 at 1:21 pm

Soooo less than 10 percent of the population voted in this primary, and it was pretty much a 50/50 split, but somehow, someway this was some sort of victory for the cut and run crowd. I don’t see how Lieberman has “lost touch”. Even the stats don’t show that he has “lost touch”. This is completely illogical thinking. Lieberman guaranteed a Dem in that senate seat until he retired. November will show if Lieberman has “lost touch”. When he wins as an Independant I have to wonder what folk like Carla are going to say???? I am certain it will be something like “voter irregularities”. =)) You guys are so funny. You make me laugh so much. All this did is solidified the grass roots Rep folks, to ensure that such people as Ned Lamont are not voted into office. Good luck with “Let’s cut and run” when it comes to winning this year’s elections. Might as well start promising chickens in every pot. – Lorica
Dave in CO says:

August 10, 2006 at 1:22 pm

When Lieberman wins as an Independent, what kind of grudge or hard feelings will he hold toward the party that stabbed him in the back?

Remeber, when Jeffords changed from R to I, he was viewed as a hero by the nutroots. Lieberman changes to an I? Traitor!

The Left doesn’t have values, they have tactics.
Jim M says:

August 10, 2006 at 1:48 pm

Carla, speaking of the head of the GOP or the Vice President on the Democratic primary how about Howard Dean who can’t shut up about anything. Howard Dean is the best thing that could have happened to the GOP.

The last poll that I read did not show a “Hefty Majority (OOHhhh shall I say it) Extremely Uncomfortable” ( We sure wouldn’t want anybody to be Uncomfortable would we) I believe those that participated in the poll showed about a 50/50 split on the War. Did you get your poll statistics from “Cut-n-Run.com”?

Most of the voters in Connecticut are Independents not Democrats or republicans. Let’s talk about Accountability can you say “Rose Law Firm Billing Records”. And no it’s not all about Hillary we can talk about Ted (The Swimmer) Kennedy.

The people that will punish the Republicans in office will be their base for not staying with the party lines of smaller Government (spending), Illegal Immigration and tax reform. Not the Democrats!

:d
Karl says:

August 10, 2006 at 2:00 pm

Jeffords always leaned towards the appearence of a democrat in republican clothes, so his defection really was not a shock.

What it did was shift the power officially as opposed to just in votes.
carla says:

August 10, 2006 at 3:18 pm

LOL – you guys really are delusional. You can’t launch a credible counter attack to Hillary because she’s crush any opponent who stood in her path.

Six months ago people were saying that about Lieberman. Oh how the mighty….and all that. Nobody is completely and totally safe. Nor should they be when they lose touch with their constituents.

And on being “defensive” it’s not me who is trying so hard to persuade people this isn’t about “hating Bush” – so wipe your own brow, hon, and dry your nose while you’re at it.

It certainly is you “trying to convince”. You and a good portion of the wingosphere are on the chant. It smacks of complete desperation. Especially when you get Cheney involved. Its ridiculously obvious.

Hey Carla – How about a little wager? I’ll donate $50 to your favorite charity (Air America, no doubt) if Joe fails to beat Lyin’ Ned in November. And when Joe wins, you can donate to mine. Game?

And what happens if the Republican wins? That’s the more likely scenario, IMO.

Yeah. Let’s never forget that its all about the Left’s “comfort level”. No doubt, it was uncomfortable in the plastic shredder under Saddam. But that was just for brown folk, right Carla?

Ahh..an admission that about 60 percent of Americans are the “left”. Interesting. And race baiting on Saddam is just the cherry on the cake, right?

Soooo less than 10 percent of the population voted in this primary, and it was pretty much a 50/50 split, but somehow, someway this was some sort of victory for the cut and run crowd. I don’t see how Lieberman has “lost touch”.

Its a DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY. The whole population of Connecticut doesn’t vote in the primary for one party, in general. Given that the turnout for this was just over 40% (I think its 43 but I’m not positive…so I’m going with 40 to be safe) and Virginia’s was single digits, that’s a pretty whopping percentage for a primary vote.
NC Cop says:

August 10, 2006 at 3:32 pm

Yeah, it’s about accountability. Lieberman was the greatest thing the DNC had to offer in 2000. He was Gore’s running mate and he could do no wrong.

Then, Joe goes to Iraq and says “It’s really not going as bad as people thinkg”, and they turned on him like rabid dogs.

I guess loyalty is something that the democrats quit doing as well, not that they ever had it.
Karl says:

August 10, 2006 at 3:38 pm

NC,

Exactly.

As I blogged earlier, the whole thing against Lieberman started when he said Iraq had positive elements.

Since that violates the DNC’s official quagmire/cut and run policy, he became the victim of friendly fire.

The truth was sacrificed to politics. what a shock.
Dave in CO says:

August 10, 2006 at 4:10 pm

Ahh..an admission that about 60 percent of Americans are the “left”. Interesting.

You, a leftist, used the word “uncomfortable”. The polls you referenced mentioned nothing about “comfort level”. I was referring to your comfort level.

And what happens if the Republican wins? That’s the more likely scenario, IMO.

So, Lyin’ Ned can’t even beat a weak Republican candidate? If the Republican wins, I’ll still pay off.
G Monster says:

August 10, 2006 at 4:48 pm

Carla,

I would like my car waxed when you are finished washing it. And don’t forget to armor all the tires.
G Monster says:

August 10, 2006 at 6:13 pm

Oh yeah, some of that pina colada air freshener would be nice too!!!
Lorica says:

August 10, 2006 at 8:02 pm

LOL Carla you are too funny. So the 40 percent that did vote is still pretty much a 50/50 split. There was what a 10,000 vote difference between the 2??? HOW IS THAT Lost touch with the constituients??? Nice try but your thinking is very much in error. – Lorica
Lorica says:

August 10, 2006 at 8:03 pm

Also let’s talk about how you just lost a guarenteed Dem seat. I hope your little primary victory was worth the stupidity of losing the seat. – Lorica (again)
Severian says:

August 10, 2006 at 8:04 pm

Hmmm…failing to march, lemming like over the cliffs of insanity, is “losing touch with the constituents.”

I swear, the Democrats are the next funniest thing to a 3 Stooges film festival I’ve seen in ages. But, since they are seriously hamstrining our efforts to fight for our survival against a brutal and vicious enemy, unfortunately I’m laughing till I cry…l-)
carla says:

August 10, 2006 at 9:54 pm

As I blogged earlier, the whole thing against Lieberman started when he said Iraq had positive elements.

Bzzzzzzzzzzt. Wrong. Lieberman shot himself in the foot when he wrote an editorial piece badmouthing Democrats who were vocally against the Iraq War.

You, a leftist, used the word “uncomfortable”. The polls you referenced mentioned nothing about “comfort level”. I was referring to your comfort level.

I, a leftist, used the word uncomfortable in reference to the American people. Or do you really need a poll to say the word “uncomfortable” with the war? Would you rather I just post the words of the poll that say that 60% of Americans dislike the President’s handling of the war in Iraq and are unhappy with the fact that we entered into it? Parse with someone who plays those games. I don’t.

So, Lyin’ Ned can’t even beat a weak Republican candidate? If the Republican wins, I’ll still pay off.

Gee…can’t pass up a chance for an ad hominem, eh? Typical conservative BS. I’d say that Lamont’s chances are reasonable..but tougher with Lieberman running. The vote will be split. Whether it will be split enough to toss the race to the GOPer remains to be seen. As I understand it, the Republican in the race isn’t exactly a fit for the state..so its hard to say for sure. The more fitting phrasology is that if the GOP loses that seat..they’re in bigger trouble than even I thought. If they can’t win when the vote is split…they really do suck.

LOL Carla you are too funny. So the 40 percent that did vote is still pretty much a 50/50 split. There was what a 10,000 vote difference between the 2??? HOW IS THAT Lost touch with the constituients??? Nice try but your thinking is very much in error. – Lorica

Do you drink heavily before you come online?

No, even with the 40 percent, the vote is not a “50/50 split”. There was a 40% turnout for the primary. That means that 40% of registered Dems showed up to vote. That’s huge for a primary. But it doesn’t mean that there’s a 50/50 split for the general. Not even close.

Jeez.

Also let’s talk about how you just lost a guarenteed Dem seat. I hope your little primary victory was worth the stupidity of losing the seat. – Lorica (again)

Its possible that the Dems did lose that seat. Or its possible that they just found a way to get a progressive into it. Given how lousy the right is looking and how godawful they’re polling…its very possible.
Sister Toldjah says:

August 10, 2006 at 10:01 pm

Exactly right, Sev. After a while you just have to let ’em go while you watch, laugh, and wonder.
Big Bang Hunter says:

August 11, 2006 at 2:07 am

– Their fearless Kossack leader, Herr Kos, has given them their marching orders. No sane human being “likes”, “wants”, or “enjoys” war, so the game plan is to conflate that with “turn tail and run”. every poll question is in the form “Are you happy with the Iraqi war?. It’s an old Marxist trick that works well on people with a 5th grade education. Not so well in America.The old Dem partty has become the party of the “cut and run cowards”, at least the hard left portion. When the fall election cycle heats up and the moderates, the vast majority among the Dems, start flexing their muscle, you’ll see just how small the un-progressive gaggle really is. Lieberman will beat them like a drum as an Independent, so there’s at least one seat they’ve already lost, and the elections havn’t even started yet. Great stratedgy. 😮

– Bang **==
Big Bang Hunter says:

August 11, 2006 at 2:09 am

– Opps — ST! Help… I doubled… :((

I took care of it, Bang 🙂 –ST
Warren Bonesteel says:

August 11, 2006 at 6:47 am

One thing I really haven’t seen mentioned here is that many “moderate” Democrats around the nation are already leaving the party because of Lamont’s win. Such moderate Democrats will vote Independent for the November elections, with a few of their number jumping over into the Republican Party.

Lamont’s primary win changed the dynamics of every election in the nation…and those dynamics don’t favor the Kos Kids or the Deaniacs.
Lorica says:

August 11, 2006 at 1:31 pm

Carla, do us all a favor and put the bong down. NO I don’t tend to drink at all. Can you please answer my question and not try to blow smoke??? How many people voted for Lamont??? Now how many people voted for Lieberman???? LOOK AT THE TOTALS it was 51 percent to 49 percent. SOOOOO Logically, I know that logic is hard for pot smokers, you cannot in any way reconcile your stupid comment that Lieberman lost touch with his constituients. Since Lieberman hasn’t lost touch, proven in the number of people who voted for him, it must be someone else who did lose touch. Like usual you on the fringe think so incredibly stupidly. Also, how does the Right look bad?? Only if you believe polls made by people who fake photographs. Who cares. The proof is in the pudding, when November gets here, come back and gloat, I will even give you an apology for being so hard on you, but I will be expecting an apology from you for the things you keep saying here once the Right picks up seats. Good luck winning elections with look how bad the Right is, bad Right, bad. – Lorica
NC Cop says:

August 12, 2006 at 10:09 am

Well, Carla, as long as you believe it, I guess that’s all that matters.

I find it amusing that when people support Bush they are accused of being “blind loyalists”, yet if you don’t agree with the DNC talking points you are considered a traitor and run out of town.

Seems to me the left is the party of blind loyalists.
How dare anyone in their party not agree with them?
Severian says:

August 12, 2006 at 10:23 am

I think Carla’s gone back to Kos or DU, you know, someplace where her obviously superior wit and intelligence will be appreciated. 8-|=))

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