Comments on: The President’s speech and part 2 of Path to 9-11 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/11/the-presidents-speech-and-part-2-of-path-to-9-11/ Don't dis or dismiss this miss! Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:23:12 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: The Moderate Voice http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/11/the-presidents-speech-and-part-2-of-path-to-9-11/comment-page-1/#comment-477273 The Moderate Voice Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:31:09 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/11/the-presidents-speech-and-part-2-of-path-to-9-11/#comment-477273 <strong>Republican malaise: Is Bush losing hold of his party on "the struggle between tyranny and freedom"?</strong> Yesterday, while I was guest blogging at The Carpetbagger Report, a commenter asked about conservative reaction to Bush's 9/11/06 address. He wondered if Bush's "guaranteeing ... Republican malaise: Is Bush losing hold of his party on “the struggle between tyranny and freedom”?

Yesterday, while I was guest blogging at The Carpetbagger Report, a commenter asked about conservative reaction to Bush’s 9/11/06 address. He wondered if Bush’s “guaranteeing …

]]> By: CavalierX http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/11/the-presidents-speech-and-part-2-of-path-to-9-11/comment-page-1/#comment-476628 CavalierX Wed, 13 Sep 2006 00:41:45 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/11/the-presidents-speech-and-part-2-of-path-to-9-11/#comment-476628 Actually, the portrayal of John O'Neill was right on the mark, possibly even underplayed his relentless devotion to duty. You may wish to check out the piece PBS did on him, called "The Man Who Knew." Actually, the portrayal of John O’Neill was right on the mark, possibly even underplayed his relentless devotion to duty. You may wish to check out the piece PBS did on him, called “The Man Who Knew.”

]]> By: omapian http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/11/the-presidents-speech-and-part-2-of-path-to-9-11/comment-page-1/#comment-476179 omapian Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:17:38 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/11/the-presidents-speech-and-part-2-of-path-to-9-11/#comment-476179 Hindsight is marvelous. In real time, numerous composite 'Kirks' and 'O'Neil's promoted their own collection and arrangement of the available dots of data bits. In fact there may have been too many dots, and competing interpretations, for the decision makers to handle. P2911 featured the dots that were much later demonstrated to be accurate. The composite O'Neil, who is friendly with the composite journalist, and the composite Richard Clarke, 'knew' the undeniable truths while elected officials and bureaucrats were still fumbling with ambiguous facts. Those who use P2911 to fix blame on either the Clinton or Bush administration are diverting attention from a very significant, continuing problem: Is the US Constitution a suicide pact? From 1993 through 2006, the American people have tolerated a set of artificial rules, imposed by a split decision of Supreme Court Judges, to prevent self-defense. Our ‘rights' to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, are valid only when other people respect them. Judges have imposed artificial restrictions that prevent those who collect the dots from sharing those dots with those who are responsible for the safety of American citizens. If ‘tainted' dots contribute to the safety of citizens, the agents who ‘tainted' the dots will be lambasted in the media and subjected to prosecution for violation of the artificial rights. Our two party system has spent too much time pointing accusatory fingers across the aisle and too little time in serious analysis and debate. A nation of 300 million people is poorly served when 435 elected representatives in Congress allow a series of split decisions reached by unaccountable jurists to stand as the law of the land. When courts protect the sensibilities and feelings of fanatics who have dedicated their lives to our destruction, Congress has an obligation to balance the feelings of felons with the safety of citizens. It is up to the congress to decide if those who reject government by consent should be afforded every protection of the Constitution. American citizens know when they visit other countries they are subject to the laws and protections afforded to foreigners and may be subjected to harsh penalties for minor offenses. Each candidate for office should make his/her feelings known on this issue and let the voters send their choice to congress. If congress makes the wrong choice, later voters will have an opportunity to change the congress and the law. Allowing artificial barriers to stand without recourse is a sure formula for our destruction. Hindsight is marvelous. In real time, numerous composite ‘Kirks’ and ‘O’Neil’s promoted their own collection and arrangement of the available dots of data bits. In fact there may have been too many dots, and competing interpretations, for the decision makers to handle.
P2911 featured the dots that were much later demonstrated to be accurate. The composite O’Neil, who is friendly with the composite journalist, and the composite Richard Clarke, ‘knew’ the undeniable truths while elected officials and bureaucrats were still fumbling with ambiguous facts. Those who use P2911 to fix blame on either the Clinton or Bush administration are diverting attention from a very significant, continuing problem: Is the US Constitution a suicide pact?
From 1993 through 2006, the American people have tolerated a set of artificial rules, imposed by a split decision of Supreme Court Judges, to prevent self-defense.
Our ‘rights’ to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, are valid only when other people respect them. Judges have imposed artificial restrictions that prevent those who collect the dots from sharing those dots with those who are responsible for the safety of American citizens. If ‘tainted’ dots contribute to the safety of citizens, the agents who ‘tainted’ the dots will be lambasted in the media and subjected to prosecution for violation of the artificial rights.
Our two party system has spent too much time pointing accusatory fingers across the aisle and too little time in serious analysis and debate. A nation of 300 million people is poorly served when 435 elected representatives in Congress allow a series of split decisions reached by unaccountable jurists to stand as the law of the land. When courts protect the sensibilities and feelings of fanatics who have dedicated their lives to our destruction, Congress has an obligation to balance the feelings of felons with the safety of citizens.
It is up to the congress to decide if those who reject government by consent should be afforded every protection of the Constitution. American citizens know when they visit other countries they are subject to the laws and protections afforded to foreigners and may be subjected to harsh penalties for minor offenses. Each candidate for office should make his/her feelings known on this issue and let the voters send their choice to congress. If congress makes the wrong choice, later voters will have an opportunity to change the congress and the law. Allowing artificial barriers to stand without recourse is a sure formula for our destruction.

]]> By: Drewsmom http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/11/the-presidents-speech-and-part-2-of-path-to-9-11/comment-page-1/#comment-475866 Drewsmom Tue, 12 Sep 2006 09:53:31 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/11/the-presidents-speech-and-part-2-of-path-to-9-11/#comment-475866 Part 2 was blame Bush night and deflect away from the clinonestas but they did take a few hits in part 1. I was pissed that we didn't help the Afganistan resistance general, who was really trying to help us and I felt for the American agent trying to get this guy some help, I liked how his loyal follower blew about 30 rounds in the fat photograher's assistant, I should have enlisted in my 20's I tell you.!!!! It really pointed out that thanks to Jamie Gorelik, who shold have been a witness, but was placed on the commission to cover her ass, really made it nearly impossible for these guys to share, I was reminded of kindergartners, "I'm not gonna share my crayons with you BS", I pray this has really gotten better. And Bush's speech rocked, but the moonbats will trash it today, hell, jay rockerfeller, mega richman, has already said we'd be better off it sadammmmm was still sitting in power......God grief.!!! :-@**== Part 2 was blame Bush night and deflect away from the clinonestas but they did take a few hits in part 1.
I was pissed that we didn’t help the Afganistan resistance general, who was really trying to help us and I felt for the American agent trying to get this guy some help, I liked how his loyal follower blew about 30 rounds in the fat photograher’s assistant, I should have enlisted in my 20’s I tell you.!!!! It really pointed out that thanks to Jamie Gorelik, who shold have been a witness, but was placed on the commission to cover her ass, really made it nearly impossible for these guys to share, I was reminded of kindergartners, “I’m not gonna share my crayons with you BS”, I pray this has really gotten better.
And Bush’s speech rocked, but the moonbats will trash it today, hell, jay rockerfeller, mega richman, has already said we’d be better off it sadammmmm was still sitting in power……God grief.!!! :-@**==

]]> By: G Monster http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/11/the-presidents-speech-and-part-2-of-path-to-9-11/comment-page-1/#comment-475449 G Monster Tue, 12 Sep 2006 05:03:39 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/11/the-presidents-speech-and-part-2-of-path-to-9-11/#comment-475449 I actually fell asleep in Part 1, due to a long weekend. I did watch Part 2. I am curious how much of a part Richard Clarke had in the making this movie. Because from what I saw, Richard Clarke was portrayed as knowing it all. He was practically running the show. If I were a lefty I'd be curious about Richard Clarke's part in telling this story also. I actually fell asleep in Part 1, due to a long weekend. I did watch Part 2. I am curious how much of a part Richard Clarke had in the making this movie. Because from what I saw, Richard Clarke was portrayed as knowing it all. He was practically running the show. If I were a lefty I’d be curious about Richard Clarke’s part in telling this story also.

]]> By: Lorica http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/11/the-presidents-speech-and-part-2-of-path-to-9-11/comment-page-1/#comment-475256 Lorica Tue, 12 Sep 2006 02:59:35 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/11/the-presidents-speech-and-part-2-of-path-to-9-11/#comment-475256 I won't disagree Clarke is a partisan hack, especially now, and maybe he was incompetent. I just think that maybe, just maybe, he pieced this thing together abit better than most. - Lorica I won’t disagree Clarke is a partisan hack, especially now, and maybe he was incompetent. I just think that maybe, just maybe, he pieced this thing together abit better than most. – Lorica

]]> By: CavalierX http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/11/the-presidents-speech-and-part-2-of-path-to-9-11/comment-page-1/#comment-475241 CavalierX Tue, 12 Sep 2006 02:27:06 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/11/the-presidents-speech-and-part-2-of-path-to-9-11/#comment-475241 >I think Richard Clarke was better at anti-terrorism >than we give him credit for. Richard Clarke has excused his repeated failures all through the 90's by pointing the finger at everyone around him, from Clinton to George Tenet to Sandy Berger and Bill Cohen. It was always someone else's fault; he was never responsible for the constant failures to stop al-Qaeda, though he was the "terrorism czar." Then he turned around and blamed 9/11 on the Bush administration's removing him from the position in which he'd done nothing for years. And, according to him, he took total command of everything on 9/11 while everyone else just stared at him, open-mouthed. Lo and behold, this movie tells the Clarke version of the events. I call BS. >I think Richard Clarke was better at anti-terrorism
>than we give him credit for.

Richard Clarke has excused his repeated failures all through the 90’s by pointing the finger at everyone around him, from Clinton to George Tenet to Sandy Berger and Bill Cohen. It was always someone else’s fault; he was never responsible for the constant failures to stop al-Qaeda, though he was the “terrorism czar.” Then he turned around and blamed 9/11 on the Bush administration’s removing him from the position in which he’d done nothing for years. And, according to him, he took total command of everything on 9/11 while everyone else just stared at him, open-mouthed. Lo and behold, this movie tells the Clarke version of the events. I call BS.

]]> By: Lorica http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/11/the-presidents-speech-and-part-2-of-path-to-9-11/comment-page-1/#comment-475228 Lorica Tue, 12 Sep 2006 02:20:34 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/11/the-presidents-speech-and-part-2-of-path-to-9-11/#comment-475228 Now comes the ABC hooplah. /sigh I am tempted to just change the channel. - Lorica Now comes the ABC hooplah. /sigh I am tempted to just change the channel. – Lorica

]]> By: Karl http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/11/the-presidents-speech-and-part-2-of-path-to-9-11/comment-page-1/#comment-475183 Karl Tue, 12 Sep 2006 02:11:33 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/11/the-presidents-speech-and-part-2-of-path-to-9-11/#comment-475183 Considering Clarke is an ABC consultant, is this surprising? They just wanna make their boy look good. Then when he comes on afterward, and slams Bush and Tenet, it continues to defelct from Clinton. At least that was how last night felt. Considering Clarke is an ABC consultant, is this surprising? They just wanna make their boy look good. Then when he comes on afterward, and slams Bush and Tenet, it continues to defelct from Clinton.

At least that was how last night felt.

]]> By: Lorica http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/11/the-presidents-speech-and-part-2-of-path-to-9-11/comment-page-1/#comment-475178 Lorica Tue, 12 Sep 2006 02:08:10 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/11/the-presidents-speech-and-part-2-of-path-to-9-11/#comment-475178 It was a fantastic speech. :) I think Richard Clarke was better at anti-terrorism than we give him credit for. Yeah he is a cocky sob, and yeah he is a pretty irritating individual, and yeah he is a near "going postal" employee, but lets give the man some credit. - Lorica P.S. Is anyone else having problems with the transmission?? My Dish loses the signal every so often. It was a fantastic speech. :) I think Richard Clarke was better at anti-terrorism than we give him credit for. Yeah he is a cocky sob, and yeah he is a pretty irritating individual, and yeah he is a near “going postal” employee, but lets give the man some credit. – Lorica

P.S. Is anyone else having problems with the transmission?? My Dish loses the signal every so often.

]]> By: CavalierX http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/11/the-presidents-speech-and-part-2-of-path-to-9-11/comment-page-1/#comment-475110 CavalierX Tue, 12 Sep 2006 01:34:30 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/11/the-presidents-speech-and-part-2-of-path-to-9-11/#comment-475110 Excellent speech, and I hope people finally listen to what he was saying. I'm not sure I can say the same for the P2911 movie, however... ABC was sure going out of its way to make Richard Clarke look like some kind of hero and prophetic genius. Excellent speech, and I hope people finally listen to what he was saying. I’m not sure I can say the same for the P2911 movie, however… ABC was sure going out of its way to make Richard Clarke look like some kind of hero and prophetic genius.

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