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	<title>Comments on: The President was right: the NIE document was leaked for political purposes</title>
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		<title>By: Big Bang Hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Bang Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 02:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- The Dembulbs are spinning like partisan tornados. apparently the falling gas prices, healthy economy, bush&#039;s rising approval ratings, and their weak on terrorism position on everything connected wit the WOT, and effectively fighting the Jihadists, really has them rattled. Good. America simply cannot afford the luxury of effete elitist social engineering, and escapism right in the middle of a war.

- Bang **==</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- The Dembulbs are spinning like partisan tornados. apparently the falling gas prices, healthy economy, bush&#8217;s rising approval ratings, and their weak on terrorism position on everything connected wit the WOT, and effectively fighting the Jihadists, really has them rattled. Good. America simply cannot afford the luxury of effete elitist social engineering, and escapism right in the middle of a war.</p>
<p>- Bang <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_flag.gif' alt='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' class='wp-smiley' width='25' height='18' title='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' /></p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>susan, THe report does NOT make points on both sides of the issue. In fact it makes the point that leaving Iraq would give Al Qaeda a success which they will build upon. It says the OPPOSITE of the Democrats point which is that we should leave Iraq and see this report makes the point. Show us where susan it makes that point. It doesn&#039;t IMHO.

The rest of your post is right on and I agree with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>susan, THe report does NOT make points on both sides of the issue. In fact it makes the point that leaving Iraq would give Al Qaeda a success which they will build upon. It says the OPPOSITE of the Democrats point which is that we should leave Iraq and see this report makes the point. Show us where susan it makes that point. It doesn&#8217;t IMHO.</p>
<p>The rest of your post is right on and I agree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, I will admit, this report makes points on both sides of the issue, but the underlying conclusions make it very clear that we are substantially safer if we win in Iraq than if we didn&#039;t. If we triumph and help Iraq establish themselves as a Democracy, the middle east will be one step closer to stabilization, and we will have a lesser risk of a major attack in America.

&lt;em&gt;â€¢ Greater pluralism and more responsive political systems in Muslim majority nations would alleviate some of the grievances jihadists exploit. Over time, such progress, together with sustained, multifaceted programs targeting the vulnerabilities of the jihadist movement and continued pressure on al-Qa&#039;ida, could erode support for the jihadists.&lt;/em&gt;

In regards to the leak in the NYT, amazing that this little tidbit of information didn&#039;t make the front page.

I would like to comment on Ted Kennedy, Democratic lawmakers and the political games they are playing with our lives. To suggest that the &quot;entire report&quot; be declassified, in an political attempt to cast shadows on the parts that have been released, bring up a couple issues.

One: The report would not have been classified to begin with if everything in the report could be released.

Second: Most important in my mind is that, suggesting that the entire report be released, knowing that doing so would put our sources, our ability to collect sensitive intelligence, and our country at risk, shows a distinctive distain of the worth of American lives in relation to the importance of political gain.

It also shows that Ted Kennedy and the democratic lawmakers, are proving once again that they cannot be trusted with the security of our country. It is said that they are weak on terror, because they are!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, I will admit, this report makes points on both sides of the issue, but the underlying conclusions make it very clear that we are substantially safer if we win in Iraq than if we didn&#8217;t. If we triumph and help Iraq establish themselves as a Democracy, the middle east will be one step closer to stabilization, and we will have a lesser risk of a major attack in America.</p>
<p><em>â€¢ Greater pluralism and more responsive political systems in Muslim majority nations would alleviate some of the grievances jihadists exploit. Over time, such progress, together with sustained, multifaceted programs targeting the vulnerabilities of the jihadist movement and continued pressure on al-Qa&#8217;ida, could erode support for the jihadists.</em></p>
<p>In regards to the leak in the NYT, amazing that this little tidbit of information didn&#8217;t make the front page.</p>
<p>I would like to comment on Ted Kennedy, Democratic lawmakers and the political games they are playing with our lives. To suggest that the &#8220;entire report&#8221; be declassified, in an political attempt to cast shadows on the parts that have been released, bring up a couple issues.</p>
<p>One: The report would not have been classified to begin with if everything in the report could be released.</p>
<p>Second: Most important in my mind is that, suggesting that the entire report be released, knowing that doing so would put our sources, our ability to collect sensitive intelligence, and our country at risk, shows a distinctive distain of the worth of American lives in relation to the importance of political gain.</p>
<p>It also shows that Ted Kennedy and the democratic lawmakers, are proving once again that they cannot be trusted with the security of our country. It is said that they are weak on terror, because they are!</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel wrote, &quot;&lt;em&gt;will be lessened in equal proportion to the success we achieve in providing for a Palestinian state.&lt;/em&gt;&quot;

Neither we nor Israel can provide for Palestinian state unilaterally. When Arafat was offered 97% of what he wanted but turned it down it was because of the pressure close to him to refuse the deal. They are not willing to  recognize Israel as a state. They want it wiped off the map. They have STATED this Daniel. So you can &quot;act&quot; like neither Republicans or Democrats are good enough for you and be all &quot;knowledgeable&quot; but it is entirely a moot point for everyone here. Palestinians just simply need to respect Israel&#039;s right to exist and work with Israel on a 2 state solution. Teaching their kindergarteners such hate and that becoming a martyr with bombs strapped to your chest is the opposite of the methods they should be using. Israel children are not taught that way. They have to live next to such maniacs with a large portion of government revenues going towards Defense. 

I appluad Bill Clinton and Bush&#039;s efforts towards the Middle East problem but you can&#039;t applly a solution until you recognize the problem. Do you Daniel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel wrote, &#8220;<em>will be lessened in equal proportion to the success we achieve in providing for a Palestinian state.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>Neither we nor Israel can provide for Palestinian state unilaterally. When Arafat was offered 97% of what he wanted but turned it down it was because of the pressure close to him to refuse the deal. They are not willing to  recognize Israel as a state. They want it wiped off the map. They have STATED this Daniel. So you can &#8220;act&#8221; like neither Republicans or Democrats are good enough for you and be all &#8220;knowledgeable&#8221; but it is entirely a moot point for everyone here. Palestinians just simply need to respect Israel&#8217;s right to exist and work with Israel on a 2 state solution. Teaching their kindergarteners such hate and that becoming a martyr with bombs strapped to your chest is the opposite of the methods they should be using. Israel children are not taught that way. They have to live next to such maniacs with a large portion of government revenues going towards Defense. </p>
<p>I appluad Bill Clinton and Bush&#8217;s efforts towards the Middle East problem but you can&#8217;t applly a solution until you recognize the problem. Do you Daniel?</p>
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		<title>By: NC Cop</title>
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		<dc:creator>NC Cop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, if I may Daniel, you are saying basically that giving the Palestinians a homeland would help ease tensions?  I think we all knew that, the question is how do you do it?

You also seem to think that staying the course is not the answer, but pulling out isn&#039;t either.  So, again, where does that leave us?

Not trying to be sarcastic, but it doesn&#039;t seem that you have left many options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, if I may Daniel, you are saying basically that giving the Palestinians a homeland would help ease tensions?  I think we all knew that, the question is how do you do it?</p>
<p>You also seem to think that staying the course is not the answer, but pulling out isn&#8217;t either.  So, again, where does that leave us?</p>
<p>Not trying to be sarcastic, but it doesn&#8217;t seem that you have left many options.</p>
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		<title>By: The Political Pit Bull</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Political Pit Bull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;BREAKING: NIE Released&lt;/strong&gt;

The DNI has just released the declassified key judgments of the National Intelligence Estimate. You can download the .pdf document by clicking here. I&#039;ll have thoughts later. Update: The level of distortion by the media of NIE&#039;s key judgments is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>BREAKING: NIE Released</strong></p>
<p>The DNI has just released the declassified key judgments of the National Intelligence Estimate. You can download the .pdf document by clicking here. I&#8217;ll have thoughts later. Update: The level of distortion by the media of NIE&#8217;s key judgments is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got it. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got it. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob - I linked to it towards the end of my post.  Here&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/documents/Declassified_NIE_Key_Judgments_092606.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;the link&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob &#8211; I linked to it towards the end of my post.  Here&#8217;s <a href="http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/documents/Declassified_NIE_Key_Judgments_092606.pdf" rel="nofollow"><strong>the link</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know where I can find the declassified recent and controversial NIE report on the net? I have been searching but so far unable to find.
Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know where I can find the declassified recent and controversial NIE report on the net? I have been searching but so far unable to find.<br />
Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel DiRito</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel DiRito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As we approach the midterm election, it is safe to conclude that little focus will be given to these realities and their eventual resolution...other than the GOP arguing that we cannot cut and run and the Democrats contending that the existing course of action is an unmitigated failure. I understand the partisan nature of politics but I can&#039;t help but look for reasonable alternatives that might succeed.

I contend that the Iraqi conflict, as well as the prevailing Middle East tensions, will be lessened in equal proportion to the success we achieve in providing for a Palestinian state. Given that the NIE assessment posits that, &quot;If democratic reform efforts in Muslim majority nations progress over the next five years, political participation probably would drive a wedge between intransigent extremists and groups willing to use the political process to achieve their local objectives&quot;, then it would be reasonable to conclude that any progress with the Palestinian issue will greatly enhance the speculative potentiality of the NIE report. Absent the Palestinian effort, I&#039;m of the opinion that the NIE timeframe is overly optimistic and dependent upon a relatively static progression without the prevalence of unforeseen events and escalations...which seems unlikely at best.

Frankly, I doubt that the existing Republican approach or the alternative of withdrawal supported by a number Democrats will serve to alleviate the existing conditions and bring relative stability to the troubled region. Neither approach has the wherewithal to alter the prevailing sentiment. Conversely, a voluntary effort that would demonstrate our ability to discern the profound importance of a successful Palestinian state would, in my opinion, yield exponential goodwill. Given the current conditions, such an effort has little risk.

Read more here:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thoughttheater.com/2006/09/portions_of_nie_report_declass.php&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;LINK&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we approach the midterm election, it is safe to conclude that little focus will be given to these realities and their eventual resolution&#8230;other than the GOP arguing that we cannot cut and run and the Democrats contending that the existing course of action is an unmitigated failure. I understand the partisan nature of politics but I can&#8217;t help but look for reasonable alternatives that might succeed.</p>
<p>I contend that the Iraqi conflict, as well as the prevailing Middle East tensions, will be lessened in equal proportion to the success we achieve in providing for a Palestinian state. Given that the NIE assessment posits that, &#8220;If democratic reform efforts in Muslim majority nations progress over the next five years, political participation probably would drive a wedge between intransigent extremists and groups willing to use the political process to achieve their local objectives&#8221;, then it would be reasonable to conclude that any progress with the Palestinian issue will greatly enhance the speculative potentiality of the NIE report. Absent the Palestinian effort, I&#8217;m of the opinion that the NIE timeframe is overly optimistic and dependent upon a relatively static progression without the prevalence of unforeseen events and escalations&#8230;which seems unlikely at best.</p>
<p>Frankly, I doubt that the existing Republican approach or the alternative of withdrawal supported by a number Democrats will serve to alleviate the existing conditions and bring relative stability to the troubled region. Neither approach has the wherewithal to alter the prevailing sentiment. Conversely, a voluntary effort that would demonstrate our ability to discern the profound importance of a successful Palestinian state would, in my opinion, yield exponential goodwill. Given the current conditions, such an effort has little risk.</p>
<p>Read more here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thoughttheater.com/2006/09/portions_of_nie_report_declass.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>LINK</strong></a></p>
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