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	<title>Comments on: Another look at Missouri&#8217;s proposed Amendment 2: It&#8217;s a fraud</title>
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	<description>Don&#039;t dis or dismiss this miss!</description>
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		<title>By: Don Quixote</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Quixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 05:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the election is tomorrow, I did my own homework tonight.  I was appalled by how deceitful the ballot wording actual is in comparison to the actual amendment.

I&#039;ve posted &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.solport.com/roundtable/archives/001090.php&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;some examples&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; if people want even more details than Sister Toldjah graciously provided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the election is tomorrow, I did my own homework tonight.  I was appalled by how deceitful the ballot wording actual is in comparison to the actual amendment.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve posted <a href="http://www.solport.com/roundtable/archives/001090.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>some examples</strong></a> if people want even more details than Sister Toldjah graciously provided.</p>
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		<title>By: Severian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Severian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 00:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then, the approach will be to create some for some other reason and then be left with many &quot;spares.&quot; Whether for other research, or for treating infertility through in vitro fertilizaton, and oops, extra embryos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then, the approach will be to create some for some other reason and then be left with many &#8220;spares.&#8221; Whether for other research, or for treating infertility through in vitro fertilizaton, and oops, extra embryos.</p>
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		<title>By: Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The second point of the Amendment states:

(2) No human blastocyst may be produced by fertilization solely for the purpose of stem cell research.

Doesn&#039;t this necessarily invalidate the possibility of &quot;cloning embryos for the purpose of destroying them&quot;?  Seems to me like it does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The second point of the Amendment states:</p>
<p>(2) No human blastocyst may be produced by fertilization solely for the purpose of stem cell research.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t this necessarily invalidate the possibility of &#8220;cloning embryos for the purpose of destroying them&#8221;?  Seems to me like it does.</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mmmm yummy.... Wrapped in seaweed.... with wasabi and soy sauce...:o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mmmm yummy&#8230;. Wrapped in seaweed&#8230;. with wasabi and soy sauce&#8230;<img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_ooooh.gif' alt='&#58;&#111;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#58;&#111;' /></p>
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		<title>By: CavalierX</title>
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		<dc:creator>CavalierX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;the ball of cells you create in vitro following 
&gt;somatic cell nuclear transfer is NOT an embryo OR a 
&gt;human being

I call for a DNA check. Fish? Muskrat? Nope. Sorry, but I&#039;m against using unborn humans as lab rats.

I maintain my question to all those in favor of embryonic -- excuse me, perhaps we should call it &lt;i&gt;blastocystic&lt;/i&gt; stem cell research. Why not use cloned or even aborted embryos to alleviate world hunger, if you think they aren&#039;t human? I eagerly await your answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;the ball of cells you create in vitro following<br />
&gt;somatic cell nuclear transfer is NOT an embryo OR a<br />
&gt;human being</p>
<p>I call for a DNA check. Fish? Muskrat? Nope. Sorry, but I&#8217;m against using unborn humans as lab rats.</p>
<p>I maintain my question to all those in favor of embryonic &#8212; excuse me, perhaps we should call it <i>blastocystic</i> stem cell research. Why not use cloned or even aborted embryos to alleviate world hunger, if you think they aren&#8217;t human? I eagerly await your answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Severian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Severian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Anyone who thinks this is the equivalent of killing a baby wouldn&#039;t pass high school biology.&lt;/em&gt;

Well, back when I took highschool biology, it was taught as a science not an ideological indoctrination tool. 

You&#039;re playing the &quot;depends on what the meaning of &quot;is&quot; is&quot; game. As though naming a human embryo something other than a human actually changes anything. You are as guilty of New Speak as any and all of the other liberals and Democrats out there, attempt to use language to obscure rather than enlighten, which is what people tend to do when what they are describing is unpalatable to the majority of people. We didn&#039;t &quot;murder&quot; anyone, we just performed some retroactive abortions! Makes as much sense as your argument that this &quot;blob&quot; isn&#039;t a potential person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Anyone who thinks this is the equivalent of killing a baby wouldn&#8217;t pass high school biology.</em></p>
<p>Well, back when I took highschool biology, it was taught as a science not an ideological indoctrination tool. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re playing the &#8220;depends on what the meaning of &#8220;is&#8221; is&#8221; game. As though naming a human embryo something other than a human actually changes anything. You are as guilty of New Speak as any and all of the other liberals and Democrats out there, attempt to use language to obscure rather than enlighten, which is what people tend to do when what they are describing is unpalatable to the majority of people. We didn&#8217;t &#8220;murder&#8221; anyone, we just performed some retroactive abortions! Makes as much sense as your argument that this &#8220;blob&#8221; isn&#8217;t a potential person.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you&#039;re going to throw loaded words around, at least bother to look them up before you go saying things like: &quot;You can create a cloned human embryo as long as you kill it during research.&quot; No one&#039;s asking to create/kill embryos for this research. They&#039;re creating blastocysts. This isn&#039;t a matter of semantics (try looking up the definitions). It&#039;s a matter of scientific ignorance on the part of Americans across the country who are increasingly taught that scientists are the enemy, and who have no interest in getting informed.

Science isn&#039;t the enemy. Ignorance is. Educate yourself. &quot;

Try learning to READ before you attempt to educate others on the definitions of words, pal. If you think the &quot;science is your friend&quot; crowd isn&#039;t asking to clone embryos, you better think again.  If they weren&#039;t asking, the definition of cloning in A2 would be &lt;strong&gt;much more&lt;/strong&gt; specific.  

Keep your head in the sand.  Ignorance is bliss, eh?  It makes no difference to me what you think.  People who want to learn are the people I&#039;m interested in talking to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you&#8217;re going to throw loaded words around, at least bother to look them up before you go saying things like: &#8220;You can create a cloned human embryo as long as you kill it during research.&#8221; No one&#8217;s asking to create/kill embryos for this research. They&#8217;re creating blastocysts. This isn&#8217;t a matter of semantics (try looking up the definitions). It&#8217;s a matter of scientific ignorance on the part of Americans across the country who are increasingly taught that scientists are the enemy, and who have no interest in getting informed.</p>
<p>Science isn&#8217;t the enemy. Ignorance is. Educate yourself. &#8221;</p>
<p>Try learning to READ before you attempt to educate others on the definitions of words, pal. If you think the &#8220;science is your friend&#8221; crowd isn&#8217;t asking to clone embryos, you better think again.  If they weren&#8217;t asking, the definition of cloning in A2 would be <strong>much more</strong> specific.  </p>
<p>Keep your head in the sand.  Ignorance is bliss, eh?  It makes no difference to me what you think.  People who want to learn are the people I&#8217;m interested in talking to.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 05:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A definition you apparently didn&#039;t bother to look up:

embryo: In humans, the prefetal product of conception from implantation through the eighth week of development

Note that the ball of cells you create in vitro following somatic cell nuclear transfer is NOT an embryo OR a human being.  It is a bundle of undifferentiated cells that has ZERO percent chance of ever becoming anything remotely human unless implanted in a surrogate.  Anyone who thinks this is the equivalent of killing a baby wouldn&#039;t pass high school biology.

Every day, women all over the world experience spontaneous abortions in the first month of pregnancy without ever realizing they were pregnant, having shown no signs of pregnancy or a disruption in their cycle.  Those fertilized eggs actually had a chance of becoming human beings...and yet we do not cry for them.  Where is the outrage?  Where are the people clamoring to find ways of reducing the rates of early-stage miscarriage?  How can people care so much about undifferentiated cells that could never have become a human being, but not about 20 and 30-day old fertilized eggs that are flushed down the toilet unknowingly by women every day?  

If you&#039;re going to throw loaded words around, at least bother to look them up before you go saying things like: &quot;You can create a cloned human embryo as long as you kill it during research.&quot;  No one&#039;s asking to create/kill embryos for this research.  They&#039;re creating blastocysts.  This isn&#039;t a matter of semantics (try looking up the definitions).  It&#039;s a matter of scientific ignorance on the part of Americans across the country who are increasingly taught that scientists are the enemy, and who have no interest in getting informed.

Science isn&#039;t the enemy.  Ignorance is.  Educate yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A definition you apparently didn&#8217;t bother to look up:</p>
<p>embryo: In humans, the prefetal product of conception from implantation through the eighth week of development</p>
<p>Note that the ball of cells you create in vitro following somatic cell nuclear transfer is NOT an embryo OR a human being.  It is a bundle of undifferentiated cells that has ZERO percent chance of ever becoming anything remotely human unless implanted in a surrogate.  Anyone who thinks this is the equivalent of killing a baby wouldn&#8217;t pass high school biology.</p>
<p>Every day, women all over the world experience spontaneous abortions in the first month of pregnancy without ever realizing they were pregnant, having shown no signs of pregnancy or a disruption in their cycle.  Those fertilized eggs actually had a chance of becoming human beings&#8230;and yet we do not cry for them.  Where is the outrage?  Where are the people clamoring to find ways of reducing the rates of early-stage miscarriage?  How can people care so much about undifferentiated cells that could never have become a human being, but not about 20 and 30-day old fertilized eggs that are flushed down the toilet unknowingly by women every day?  </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to throw loaded words around, at least bother to look them up before you go saying things like: &#8220;You can create a cloned human embryo as long as you kill it during research.&#8221;  No one&#8217;s asking to create/kill embryos for this research.  They&#8217;re creating blastocysts.  This isn&#8217;t a matter of semantics (try looking up the definitions).  It&#8217;s a matter of scientific ignorance on the part of Americans across the country who are increasingly taught that scientists are the enemy, and who have no interest in getting informed.</p>
<p>Science isn&#8217;t the enemy.  Ignorance is.  Educate yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Marshall Art</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marshall Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 02:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more, hilchar.  The libs and Hollywood elite whine about being ashamed of our country because of Bush and other conservatives, but what brings shame to this country most is the clear disregard for human life by so many on the left, and even some on the right.  I would support any candidate that called for a freeze on any embryonic stem cell research, abortion or invitro fertilization until it can be proven empirically that one is a person at a later moment than fertilization.  There is NO science that supports any such contention.  I have a standing request for such proof.  Until then, any of the above procedures should be punishable by law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more, hilchar.  The libs and Hollywood elite whine about being ashamed of our country because of Bush and other conservatives, but what brings shame to this country most is the clear disregard for human life by so many on the left, and even some on the right.  I would support any candidate that called for a freeze on any embryonic stem cell research, abortion or invitro fertilization until it can be proven empirically that one is a person at a later moment than fertilization.  There is NO science that supports any such contention.  I have a standing request for such proof.  Until then, any of the above procedures should be punishable by law.</p>
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		<title>By: hilchar</title>
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		<dc:creator>hilchar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 01:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many times must these poor babies die.  Each embryo cloned would be the same little person, thus he/she must die a multitude of times. How sad.  

How sick has america become?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many times must these poor babies die.  Each embryo cloned would be the same little person, thus he/she must die a multitude of times. How sad.  </p>
<p>How sick has america become?</p>
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		<title>By: Drewsmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drewsmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those that support aboution and even partial birth abortion, and theres alot of em out there, this bill is no big deal, just another life taken out.
But God forbid, the truth come out about why they want this passed so bad and the couple who stand to make millions more if it does pass.
God must surely be shaking his head and wondering why so many just don&#039;t care about life, how sad is this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those that support aboution and even partial birth abortion, and theres alot of em out there, this bill is no big deal, just another life taken out.<br />
But God forbid, the truth come out about why they want this passed so bad and the couple who stand to make millions more if it does pass.<br />
God must surely be shaking his head and wondering why so many just don&#8217;t care about life, how sad is this.</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 05:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ST, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.steeleformaryland.com/SETTINGTHERECORDSTRAIGHTCardinVotedAgainstStemCellResearchforPurePoliticalGain.htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;This is an amazing page&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ST, <a href="http://www.steeleformaryland.com/SETTINGTHERECORDSTRAIGHTCardinVotedAgainstStemCellResearchforPurePoliticalGain.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>This is an amazing page</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 05:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry. I didn&#039;t see you ad an update with the video...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry. I didn&#8217;t see you ad an update with the video&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Leaning Straight Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leaning Straight Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 05:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Another ad in response to Michael J Fox&lt;/strong&gt;

The Michael Steele campaign has taken its cue from the Fox ad and replied with an ad of their own.&#160; The ad is positive in nature and uses the same core concept:&#160; Provide a victim that can speak with moral authority.
As it is in response to a ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Another ad in response to Michael J Fox</strong></p>
<p>The Michael Steele campaign has taken its cue from the Fox ad and replied with an ad of their own.&nbsp; The ad is positive in nature and uses the same core concept:&nbsp; Provide a victim that can speak with moral authority.<br />
As it is in response to a &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 05:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ST, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.steeleformaryland.com/StemCellVideo.htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A must see video for everyone&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ST, <a href="http://www.steeleformaryland.com/StemCellVideo.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>A must see video for everyone</strong></a></p>
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