We should, perhaps, try to do better in our lives, as believers. And we cannot do that if we don’t speak out against such horrid apostasy as “leaders” of a denomination supporting euthanasia. It seems that in some churches, belief is not necessary to take the pulpit. What, then, is the point?

- All that is perfectly true Phil. The problem I was addressing (again for the third time), is over reaction; seeing a “sign of the end times” everytime some world leader gets a glob of gum stuck to his shoe.

- When every bend of the willow, and gust of political “wind”, has people grabbing for revelations, it devalues the whole process of serious observation, and obfuscates clear headed thinking.

- A steady “balanced” push back in things like flagging moralities, particularly demonstration by example, ect., is generally proven to be more lasting and proficious, than wild eyed religiousity.

- I wouldn’t expect that to be characterized as a “know it all” proposition. But I couold be wrong. what say you? (and no, I did not know Moses on a first name basis)….

- Bang

I did not notice anyone attacking or debating anyones personality, it was simply a healthy debate absent any real rancor or acrimony. But, this blog belongs to someone that can set the rules and absolutely dictate the tone and manner and even the words used of any debate. So, that is it, all debate or discussion on this issue has been terminated due to extreme discomfort of the hostess.

Damn! Just when I was gonna jump in!

But I was going to be nice and merely say that religious talk on a thread about the position of the Church of England seems rather appropriate to me.

Guess what Big Slang Hunter you are “wrong”

Maybe you would like to dispute this fact that I. M. Neiman put up there so graciously that you seem to avoid answering his question.

2. Yes, God said we would not know the “day” or “hour” of His return; but Jesus told us His followers that they would know the general time frame (season) by reading the signs of the times based on His Revealed Word of future events.

Also I was not trying to disguise the crack about your age, you just seemed to be such a know it all I just figured that you must have been around long enough to ask GOD himself what the grand sceme of things was about.

- …and Phil. Your thinly disguised crack about my age is the sort of lame ad hominems you go too when you can’t think of anything else.

- The point I made that apparently flew over both of your heads, is if G_d has decreed you can’t know, then how much more useless could something be, than to rend your clothes, and pull your hair out over.

- Keep up the good work, both of you.

- Bang

Big Bang Hunter wrote: If I had a dollar for every generation that thought “the end is nie”, I’d be a billionaire.

Why Big Bang Hunter you sound like you have been around since the Big Bang.

1. A true Christian must, whether other people like it or not, view everything through Scripture, as it is the living Word and as such is the sole guide for every aspect of life for a Christian.
2. Yes, God said we would not know the “day” or “hour” of His return; but Jesus told us His followers that they would know the general time frame (season) by reading the signs of the times based on His Revealed Word of future events.
3. Lastly to the point: “If I had a dollar for every generation that thought “the end is nie”, I’d be a billionaire.” Jesus told His disciples to always be looking for His return as being imminant, there are many reasons for this; but the point is that those believers expecting His return and the End of days are doing so because they are obeying the Lord in always expecting Him.

Beach Girl: I was going to mention Hawking, but my post was getting long. Thanks for doing so!

Phil: Thank you for getting my point so clearly!

I cannot understand how we have slipped so far. Of course, the immoral ruling of the US Supreme Court in 1973 was not our grandest moment.

As I understand it, there is a “professor” at Princeton who advocates a mother being able to legally kill her child up to 3 months of age.

I wonder what Steven Hawking (if he is still alive) would say about this – kill the disabled – crowd. I wonder what they would say if they should themselves become disabled. Would they want a good shot of morphine or the slow death of dehydration and starvation that our “civilized” society inflicted upon Terri Shaivo?

I had not read of this when I wrote my post this morning – funny how things get minds of their own sometimes.