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	<title>Comments on: Drunk driving and beyond: Should ignition interlocks be standard in all cars?</title>
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		<title>By: Marshall Art</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marshall Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 20:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And to think this all started from judges letting drunks off the hook for so many years.  I knew a guy with multiple DUI&#039;s and as long as he had the dough for the lawyer, he&#039;d get off without more than a fine.  In the meantime, he probably holds a record for most things hit by with a car.  He&#039;s hit several trees, a stop light, a few parked cars, and a house.  Those are just the things of which I&#039;m aware.  He should&#039;ve had his license revoked a long time ago (for good) and possibly a bit of his freedom as well.  The only good is that he never killed or seriously hurt anyone.  Not the case with countless others in the same boat, and it is that criminal leniancy on the part of judges and lawyers that has led to people like me being at risk because I had a beer two days ago and now want to drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to think this all started from judges letting drunks off the hook for so many years.  I knew a guy with multiple DUI&#8217;s and as long as he had the dough for the lawyer, he&#8217;d get off without more than a fine.  In the meantime, he probably holds a record for most things hit by with a car.  He&#8217;s hit several trees, a stop light, a few parked cars, and a house.  Those are just the things of which I&#8217;m aware.  He should&#8217;ve had his license revoked a long time ago (for good) and possibly a bit of his freedom as well.  The only good is that he never killed or seriously hurt anyone.  Not the case with countless others in the same boat, and it is that criminal leniancy on the part of judges and lawyers that has led to people like me being at risk because I had a beer two days ago and now want to drive.</p>
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		<title>By: Lip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 00:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait.  The market to overide these things will be bigger than the market for booze during prohibition.  Btw my grandpa was killed by a drunk driver and he definitely would hold my view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait.  The market to overide these things will be bigger than the market for booze during prohibition.  Btw my grandpa was killed by a drunk driver and he definitely would hold my view.</p>
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		<title>By: Retired Geezer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Retired Geezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 22:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about those fools who are drunk and have one of their kids blow in the tube?

I&#039;m against it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about those fools who are drunk and have one of their kids blow in the tube?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m against it.</p>
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		<title>By: Random Numbers (Brian Epps)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random Numbers (Brian Epps)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 21:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://randomnumbers.us/?p=1484&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I came perilously close to drunk driving last night&lt;/a&gt;.  I&#039;m thankful that God sent a little signal to keep me from doing so.  

Interlocks won&#039;t do any good.  You can build a bypass device using a water bottle, drinking straws, and a bicycle pump.  I imagine more sophisticated bypass devices will hit the market about 0.7 seconds after these interlocks are required.  The only way to curb drunk driving is to make people realize the risks and the price.  Some people will not take it to heart, but some people don&#039;t take the dangers of swimming pools and bathtubs to heart, either.  There is nothing that can be done about them but keep the message going and pray that they see the light before it&#039;s too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://randomnumbers.us/?p=1484" rel="nofollow">I came perilously close to drunk driving last night</a>.  I&#8217;m thankful that God sent a little signal to keep me from doing so.  </p>
<p>Interlocks won&#8217;t do any good.  You can build a bypass device using a water bottle, drinking straws, and a bicycle pump.  I imagine more sophisticated bypass devices will hit the market about 0.7 seconds after these interlocks are required.  The only way to curb drunk driving is to make people realize the risks and the price.  Some people will not take it to heart, but some people don&#8217;t take the dangers of swimming pools and bathtubs to heart, either.  There is nothing that can be done about them but keep the message going and pray that they see the light before it&#8217;s too late.</p>
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		<title>By: Random Numbers / Happy Thanksgiving</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random Numbers / Happy Thanksgiving</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 21:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ace is asking for what you are thankful for, head on over.&#160; And Sister Toldjah has a post on DUI and one stupid idea on how to curb it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ace is asking for what you are thankful for, head on over.&nbsp; And Sister Toldjah has a post on DUI and one stupid idea on how to curb it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 19:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

That GPS detection system is already in place in a lot of countries.  It will be coming here soon.  In fact some rental car companies use just that kind of thing to watch their customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>That GPS detection system is already in place in a lot of countries.  It will be coming here soon.  In fact some rental car companies use just that kind of thing to watch their customers.</p>
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		<title>By: david foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>david foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 18:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to keep dangerous drivers from starting their cars, how about a simple reflex-testing device instead? (For example: it displays a random number and you have to key it back within 2 seconds.) It would also detect drivers who are too sleepy, too distracted, or just too slow-thinking to drive, as well as drunks, and would probably be cheaper to manufacture.

But I&#039;m nervous about the whole idea. Where does it stop? Will we require GPS-based systems that measure your location and speed, compare speed with the appropriate speed limit, and report any violations? How about a device that detects people who make turns without using turn signals? Where does it stop?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to keep dangerous drivers from starting their cars, how about a simple reflex-testing device instead? (For example: it displays a random number and you have to key it back within 2 seconds.) It would also detect drivers who are too sleepy, too distracted, or just too slow-thinking to drive, as well as drunks, and would probably be cheaper to manufacture.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m nervous about the whole idea. Where does it stop? Will we require GPS-based systems that measure your location and speed, compare speed with the appropriate speed limit, and report any violations? How about a device that detects people who make turns without using turn signals? Where does it stop?</p>
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		<title>By: benning</title>
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		<dc:creator>benning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 17:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it whenever I hear or read that a certain percentage of Americans favors something, I&#039;ve &lt;strong&gt;not&lt;/strong&gt; been asked, and it&#039;s something that will cost &lt;strong&gt;me&lt;/strong&gt; money?

Use it for convicted drunks. Period. Otherwise MADD can start a fundraising drive and pay for it themselves!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it whenever I hear or read that a certain percentage of Americans favors something, I&#8217;ve <strong>not</strong> been asked, and it&#8217;s something that will cost <strong>me</strong> money?</p>
<p>Use it for convicted drunks. Period. Otherwise MADD can start a fundraising drive and pay for it themselves!</p>
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		<title>By: Syberyenta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syberyenta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 16:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Nanny State</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Nanny State</p>
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		<title>By: CavalierX</title>
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		<dc:creator>CavalierX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 14:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;looking at interlocks being standard device that 
&gt;would be in a vehicle

Just what we need: more nanny-state big-government intervention. More lobbyists shoveling money at lawmakers. More fat, bloated bureaucracies overseeing every aspect of the program. More government control over both auto companies and individual lives. More laws requiring more paperwork and less time for cops to fight actual crimes. More overcrowded courtrooms and blood-sucking lawyers playing legalistic games with peoples&#039; lives. The only thing we&#039;ll get less of is &lt;i&gt;personal responsibility&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;looking at interlocks being standard device that<br />
&gt;would be in a vehicle</p>
<p>Just what we need: more nanny-state big-government intervention. More lobbyists shoveling money at lawmakers. More fat, bloated bureaucracies overseeing every aspect of the program. More government control over both auto companies and individual lives. More laws requiring more paperwork and less time for cops to fight actual crimes. More overcrowded courtrooms and blood-sucking lawyers playing legalistic games with peoples&#8217; lives. The only thing we&#8217;ll get less of is <i>personal responsibility</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Severian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Severian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 14:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it has become obvious that MADD has morphed into far more than a bunch of mother&#039;s against drunks, it is the face of the modern, fanatical prohibition movement. The &quot;we know better than you, we have absolute moral authority as we lost loved ones, it&#039;s our right to tell you what to do, we have to ban demon alcohol&quot; liberal mindset at work, Orwellian as can be, intent on telling others how to live. They&#039;ve gone from a concerned group who implemented some needed changes to a single issue group of fanatics, as these &quot;grassroots&quot; groups so often do it seems. The drunk driving blood alcohol levels are in fact set too low in many places due to MADD, low enough that they sweep up people who aren&#039;t really intoxicated, but then getting drunks off the road is no longer their main goal, it&#039;s getting rid of alcohol period. They are in many ways no different than the humorless, fanatical prohibitionists of the 20&#039;s. But they have absolute moral authority though! Bah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it has become obvious that MADD has morphed into far more than a bunch of mother&#8217;s against drunks, it is the face of the modern, fanatical prohibition movement. The &#8220;we know better than you, we have absolute moral authority as we lost loved ones, it&#8217;s our right to tell you what to do, we have to ban demon alcohol&#8221; liberal mindset at work, Orwellian as can be, intent on telling others how to live. They&#8217;ve gone from a concerned group who implemented some needed changes to a single issue group of fanatics, as these &#8220;grassroots&#8221; groups so often do it seems. The drunk driving blood alcohol levels are in fact set too low in many places due to MADD, low enough that they sweep up people who aren&#8217;t really intoxicated, but then getting drunks off the road is no longer their main goal, it&#8217;s getting rid of alcohol period. They are in many ways no different than the humorless, fanatical prohibitionists of the 20&#8217;s. But they have absolute moral authority though! Bah.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom TB</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 09:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would stop anyone from blowing-up balloons with non-alcoholic human exhale, and using it to override the interlock? LEO&#039;s that administer sobriety tests have to be certified, and  breathalyzers have to be recalibrated. I see a thousand law-suits on the horizon; for example, someone who has a sick child that needs to go to the  hospital, and can&#039;t get the family car started because they used a mouthwash containing alcohol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would stop anyone from blowing-up balloons with non-alcoholic human exhale, and using it to override the interlock? LEO&#8217;s that administer sobriety tests have to be certified, and  breathalyzers have to be recalibrated. I see a thousand law-suits on the horizon; for example, someone who has a sick child that needs to go to the  hospital, and can&#8217;t get the family car started because they used a mouthwash containing alcohol.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget it&#039;s not just MADD asking for it, it&#039;ll be the lobbyists for the Interlock companies that stand to make tens, probably hundreds of millions of dollars off this legislation.

Wait &#039;til the public finds out (after the fact) that these devices are not specific for alcohol, produce tons of false postive results, and beep every 5 to 15 minutes to force you to continue to blow in the machine again and again &lt;em&gt;while driving&lt;/em&gt;.

People need to at least know what they&#039;re getting themselves into.  And never mind that I&#039;m against the whole police state aspect to this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget it&#8217;s not just MADD asking for it, it&#8217;ll be the lobbyists for the Interlock companies that stand to make tens, probably hundreds of millions of dollars off this legislation.</p>
<p>Wait &#8217;til the public finds out (after the fact) that these devices are not specific for alcohol, produce tons of false postive results, and beep every 5 to 15 minutes to force you to continue to blow in the machine again and again <em>while driving</em>.</p>
<p>People need to at least know what they&#8217;re getting themselves into.  And never mind that I&#8217;m against the whole police state aspect to this.</p>
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		<title>By: TedintheShed</title>
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		<dc:creator>TedintheShed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 04:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad idea.

It is not agaist the law for a drunk driver to own and operate a car. It is against the law for them to drive on public roads. That is why we are licensed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad idea.</p>
<p>It is not agaist the law for a drunk driver to own and operate a car. It is against the law for them to drive on public roads. That is why we are licensed.</p>
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		<title>By: geezer</title>
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		<dc:creator>geezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 03:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Libertarian in me says:  &quot;The heck with this.&quot; (On another site, the words would be fewer, but stronger.)  The daddy/grandpa in me says:  &quot;Why not?&quot;  Whatever makes me and mine safer, and doesn&#039;t break some law, do it.

As for Baklava&#039;s comment--true, but.  Every auto  improvement, be it for safety or performance, had to start somewhere with some model year.  In ten years, alcohol interlock-equipped vehicles would have as good a shot at parity with their predecessors as airbags and ABS&#039; had before their introduction.

ST, you bring up personal safety via speed from key-in-ignition to pulling away.  Arent&#039; a few seconds to blow in a tube worth keeping a drunk off the road and possibly killing someone/ruining a life/added burden to police and courts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Libertarian in me says:  &#8220;The heck with this.&#8221; (On another site, the words would be fewer, but stronger.)  The daddy/grandpa in me says:  &#8220;Why not?&#8221;  Whatever makes me and mine safer, and doesn&#8217;t break some law, do it.</p>
<p>As for Baklava&#8217;s comment&#8211;true, but.  Every auto  improvement, be it for safety or performance, had to start somewhere with some model year.  In ten years, alcohol interlock-equipped vehicles would have as good a shot at parity with their predecessors as airbags and ABS&#8217; had before their introduction.</p>
<p>ST, you bring up personal safety via speed from key-in-ignition to pulling away.  Arent&#8217; a few seconds to blow in a tube worth keeping a drunk off the road and possibly killing someone/ruining a life/added burden to police and courts?</p>
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