Comments on: Re: The media and Senator Johnson’s condition: is the MSM a tool of the right? http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/ Don't dis or dismiss this miss! Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:38:36 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Tom http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-628342 Tom Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:27:09 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/#comment-628342 <em>Great White Rat is correct</em>. I was replying to a comment by Nahanni. It is far too early to know what his medical condition might be. I was told last night on another blog that the rules in SD call for an election - and not an appointment. Parden my lack of knowledge about this, but does anyone know the true process in SD? Thanks. Great White Rat is correct. I was replying to a comment by Nahanni. It is far too early to know what his medical condition might be. I was told last night on another blog that the rules in SD call for an election – and not an appointment. Parden my lack of knowledge about this, but does anyone know the true process in SD? Thanks.

]]> By: Great White Rat http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-628312 Great White Rat Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:04:51 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/#comment-628312 Also, there are more than a few cases of Senate seats changing parties from gubernatorial appointments. When Paul Coverdell (R-GA) died (ironically, of a stroke, I believe), the governor appointed a Democrat to replace him. Actually, in that case, the governor probably did pick the best man for the seat - Zell Miller. When John Heinz (R-PA) died in a plane crash (and coincidentally providing John Kerry with another sugar-mommy opportunity), the governor appointed a Democrat there. The voters later reversed that decision. As they will in SD if they don't like the replacement choice. But aren't we're still getting ahead of ourselves? The focus right now still should be on prayers and best wishes for Senator Johnson. Also, there are more than a few cases of Senate seats changing parties from gubernatorial appointments.

When Paul Coverdell (R-GA) died (ironically, of a stroke, I believe), the governor appointed a Democrat to replace him. Actually, in that case, the governor probably did pick the best man for the seat – Zell Miller.

When John Heinz (R-PA) died in a plane crash (and coincidentally providing John Kerry with another sugar-mommy opportunity), the governor appointed a Democrat there. The voters later reversed that decision. As they will in SD if they don’t like the replacement choice.

But aren’t we’re still getting ahead of ourselves? The focus right now still should be on prayers and best wishes for Senator Johnson.

]]> By: Great White Rat http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-628296 Great White Rat Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:51:54 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/#comment-628296 Tom asks: <em>Whether or not that satifies the voters concerns, I don't know. They voted for a ‘D', not an ‘R'. Is it somewhat disrespectful of their choices made at the polls - I don't know. What do you folks think? </em> On that, two points: First, they also voted for the 'R' governor, knowing full well that one of his powers would be appointing an interim senator should such a contigency arise. It would be the duty of Governor Rounds to appoint whoever he thinks is the best person for the job. I have no idea where the governor stands politically, but if he's a conservative Republican, then he's going to think another conservative Republican is the best person. Second, there remain some serious questions whether the people of SD actually did vote for the 'D' in the 2002 election. As I recall, that election was decided on the basis of some late Chicago-style vote manipulation on the Indian reservations. Tom asks:

Whether or not that satifies the voters concerns, I don’t know. They voted for a ‘D’, not an ‘R’. Is it somewhat disrespectful of their choices made at the polls – I don’t know. What do you folks think?

On that, two points:

First, they also voted for the ‘R’ governor, knowing full well that one of his powers would be appointing an interim senator should such a contigency arise. It would be the duty of Governor Rounds to appoint whoever he thinks is the best person for the job. I have no idea where the governor stands politically, but if he’s a conservative Republican, then he’s going to think another conservative Republican is the best person.

Second, there remain some serious questions whether the people of SD actually did vote for the ‘D’ in the 2002 election. As I recall, that election was decided on the basis of some late Chicago-style vote manipulation on the Indian reservations.

]]> By: Tom http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-628257 Tom Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:22:11 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/#comment-628257 Nahanni - Good morning! Reading your post <em>(little boy)</em> gives me a good idea of what I sounded like when I firmly placed my foot in my mouth. If I sounded shrill (as you do), I really need to take a look at how I communicate. Sir, your opinion on CNN, Ted Turner, the easter bunny, water on mars, nu metal, etc...are just that - opinions. Ted Turner is definately the 'mouth from the south' - no question. The single last place I would get my news is from the likes of those broadcasters. They do us no good, but it is hard to question his success, no? With the 'entertainment' value of the newscasts taking precedent over the 'news' value, we all lose. As yo noted, the Governor can replace Mr Johnson with anybody he chooses. No problem for me. Thats the rule. Whether or not that satifies the voters concerns, I don't know. They voted for a 'D', not an 'R'. Is it somewhat disrespectful of their choices made at the polls - I don't know. What do you folks think? Cheers. Nahanni – Good morning! Reading your post (little boy) gives me a good idea of what I sounded like when I firmly placed my foot in my mouth. If I sounded shrill (as you do), I really need to take a look at how I communicate. Sir, your opinion on CNN, Ted Turner, the easter bunny, water on mars, nu metal, etc…are just that – opinions. Ted Turner is definately the ‘mouth from the south’ – no question. The single last place I would get my news is from the likes of those broadcasters. They do us no good, but it is hard to question his success, no? With the ‘entertainment’ value of the newscasts taking precedent over the ‘news’ value, we all lose. As yo noted, the Governor can replace Mr Johnson with anybody he chooses. No problem for me. Thats the rule. Whether or not that satifies the voters concerns, I don’t know. They voted for a ‘D’, not an ‘R’. Is it somewhat disrespectful of their choices made at the polls – I don’t know. What do you folks think? Cheers.

]]> By: Sister Toldjah http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-628237 Sister Toldjah Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:00:11 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/#comment-628237 "Best wishes and a speedy recovery indeed to Senator Johnson. No doubt the mediots now have a list of the physical and mental conditions of all 100 senators and will stake out those whose condition is perhaps not up to the mark. Perhaps the cable news networks can prepare it in the form of a box score. You know: Senator/Age/Known/Preexisting Conditions/Last Checkup And so forth" LOL! “Best wishes and a speedy recovery indeed to Senator Johnson.

No doubt the mediots now have a list of the physical and mental conditions of all 100 senators and will stake out those whose condition is perhaps not up to the mark. Perhaps the cable news networks can prepare it in the form of a box score. You know:

Senator/Age/Known/Preexisting Conditions/Last Checkup

And so forth”

LOL!

]]> By: Leslie http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-628233 Leslie Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:53:49 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/#comment-628233 Best wishes and a speedy recovery indeed to Senator Johnson. No doubt the mediots now have a list of the physical and mental conditions of all 100 senators and will stake out those whose condition is perhaps not up to the mark. Perhaps the cable news networks can prepare it in the form of a box score. You know: Senator/Age/Known/Preexisting Conditions/Last Checkup And so forth Oh and by the way . . . in U.S. history, "progressive" is a term usually followed by "era," as in "The Progressive Era reforms of Theodore Roosevelt." How it became a substitute word for those who do not wish to call themselves liberals I cannot tell you. The suggestion here is that conservatives counter by deciding to call themselves, say, Cavaliers. ;) Best wishes and a speedy recovery indeed to Senator Johnson.

No doubt the mediots now have a list of the physical and mental conditions of all 100 senators and will stake out those whose condition is perhaps not up to the mark. Perhaps the cable news networks can prepare it in the form of a box score. You know:

Senator/Age/Known/Preexisting Conditions/Last Checkup

And so forth

Oh and by the way . . . in U.S. history, “progressive” is a term usually followed by “era,” as in “The Progressive Era reforms of Theodore Roosevelt.”

How it became a substitute word for those who do not wish to call themselves liberals I cannot tell you. The suggestion here is that conservatives counter by deciding to call themselves, say, Cavaliers. ;)

]]> By: Nahanni http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-628209 Nahanni Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:32:33 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/#comment-628209 Tom, CNN is the owned and operated mouthpiece of Ted Turner, one of the craziest of the Leftist Liberal Lunatics. Of course seeing as he is a Democrat and a LLL of impeccable pedigree that makes CNN totally unibased and impartial in your BDS addled mind. Teddyboi also owns a huge chunk of AOL Time/Warner and we all know just how "unbiased" Time magazine is. Now, little boy, let me explain some simple facts of life to you. As one who had their mother go through the same thing Sen. Johnson is going through I will guess that Sen. Johnson will be retiring from the senate. That is unfortunate because I know Sen. Johnson and he is a good person. If Sen Johnson retires the Governor of South Dakota has the right to appoint anyone he damn well pleases to that position. Too bad for you for despite your and your little LLL playmates desires to rewrite the rules(a very typical LLL trait when the pouting toddlers don't get their way)if the Governor decides to appoint a Republican to replace Sen. Johnson there isn't a <em>damn thing</em> you can do about it. Tom,

CNN is the owned and operated mouthpiece of Ted Turner, one of the craziest of the Leftist Liberal Lunatics. Of course seeing as he is a Democrat and a LLL of impeccable pedigree that makes CNN totally unibased and impartial in your BDS addled mind. Teddyboi also owns a huge chunk of AOL Time/Warner and we all know just how “unbiased” Time magazine is.

Now, little boy, let me explain some simple facts of life to you.

As one who had their mother go through the same thing Sen. Johnson is going through I will guess that Sen. Johnson will be retiring from the senate. That is unfortunate because I know Sen. Johnson and he is a good person.

If Sen Johnson retires the Governor of South Dakota has the right to appoint anyone he damn well pleases to that position. Too bad for you for despite your and your little LLL playmates desires to rewrite the rules(a very typical LLL trait when the pouting toddlers don’t get their way)if the Governor decides to appoint a Republican to replace Sen. Johnson there isn’t a damn thing you can do about it.

]]> By: Poet http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-628204 Poet Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:23:59 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/#comment-628204 Best wishes and prayers to Sen. Johnson and his family. And shame on the media for playing and playing and playing and playing and playing the clip of his interview. 'Nuff said! Best wishes and prayers to Sen. Johnson and his family.

And shame on the media for playing and playing and playing and playing and playing the clip of his interview.

‘Nuff said!

]]> By: Great White Rat http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-627630 Great White Rat Fri, 15 Dec 2006 05:01:51 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/#comment-627630 Tom, thanks for your last remarks. I'm glad we can end this in agreement, then, as ST began it - with fervent wishes for a complete recovery by Senator Johnson. Tom, thanks for your last remarks. I’m glad we can end this in agreement, then, as ST began it – with fervent wishes for a complete recovery by Senator Johnson.

]]> By: The World According To Carl http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-627539 The World According To Carl Fri, 15 Dec 2006 03:19:09 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/#comment-627539 <strong>US Senator Tim Johnson (D- South Dakota) Stroke Updates</strong> SCROLL DOWN FOR UPDATE As most everyone is aware by now, US Senator Tim Johnson (D- South Dakota) was rushed to George Washington University Hospital in Washington, D.C. suffering from what doctors later determined to be a stroke. Last night he ... US Senator Tim Johnson (D- South Dakota) Stroke Updates

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As most everyone is aware by now, US Senator Tim Johnson (D- South Dakota) was rushed to George Washington University Hospital in Washington, D.C. suffering from what doctors later determined to be a stroke. Last night he …

]]> By: Brian http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-627456 Brian Fri, 15 Dec 2006 02:05:52 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/#comment-627456 Kos obviously doesn't read the comments on his own blog, because his readers were doing far, far worse yesterday when this story broke. There were a few initial "hope he gets better" replies, and then the usual "understanding" we get from the left showed up....in spades. lol Kos obviously doesn’t read the comments on his own blog, because his readers were doing far, far worse yesterday when this story broke.

There were a few initial “hope he gets better” replies, and then the usual “understanding” we get from the left showed up….in spades. lol

]]> By: Tom http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-627442 Tom Fri, 15 Dec 2006 01:32:41 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/#comment-627442 Geezer is wise. :) Yes sir, you are correct (sort of). Geezer is wise. :) Yes sir, you are correct (sort of).

]]> By: Tom http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-627440 Tom Fri, 15 Dec 2006 01:28:55 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/#comment-627440 Severian & Great White Rat - As to the initial energy and ranting on my first post, your critism is valid and I apologize for starting from a 'too partisan' position. Fair is fair and you both are correct. As to the chickenhawk comment by Rat, sir, nothing of the sort from me. I did what I did (serve) for my reasons and I would never disparage anybody for following their heart (to either serve or not). I guess I was trying to indicate to you that I am not a 'liberal' in the sense that I am opposed to "everything" the Bush administration is doing. No sir, no chickenhawk snark from me. And also, I do see a difference between 'liberals' and 'progressives'. maybe it is just my way of rationalizing my choices, but I see a difference. So anyway, I am glad we can fnd common ground. And I am glad you found some of my comments not 'raving partisan nutjob'. I would not like a reputation as that. Cheers. Severian & Great White Rat – As to the initial energy and ranting on my first post, your critism is valid and I apologize for starting from a ‘too partisan’ position. Fair is fair and you both are correct. As to the chickenhawk comment by Rat, sir, nothing of the sort from me. I did what I did (serve) for my reasons and I would never disparage anybody for following their heart (to either serve or not). I guess I was trying to indicate to you that I am not a ‘liberal’ in the sense that I am opposed to “everything” the Bush administration is doing. No sir, no chickenhawk snark from me. And also, I do see a difference between ‘liberals’ and ‘progressives’. maybe it is just my way of rationalizing my choices, but I see a difference. So anyway, I am glad we can fnd common ground. And I am glad you found some of my comments not ‘raving partisan nutjob’. I would not like a reputation as that. Cheers.

]]> By: geezer http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-627437 geezer Fri, 15 Dec 2006 01:25:09 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/#comment-627437 Hey, Tom: I don't know you, but I'd have to guess that using the phrases "FauxNews," "marketing arm of the Republican party" and "Bushhco person" in your 1st two sentences would lead most people to think you're not a fan of FoxNews, and might not be a big fan of Bush, either. Wouldn't you admit that kind of narrows things down a bit? Hey, Tom: I don’t know you, but I’d have to guess that using the phrases “FauxNews,” “marketing arm of the Republican party” and “Bushhco person” in your 1st two sentences would lead most people to think you’re not a fan of FoxNews, and might not be a big fan of Bush, either. Wouldn’t you admit that kind of narrows things down a bit?

]]> By: Great White Rat http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-627428 Great White Rat Fri, 15 Dec 2006 01:02:12 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/12/14/re-the-media-and-senator-johnsons-condition-is-the-msm-a-tool-of-the-right/#comment-627428 <em>It would be the same incorrect analogy to say that Republicans are conservatives. </em> If I said that by 'progressive' you mean 'Democrat', your analogy would hold water. But I didn't, so you're wrong. 'Progressive' is the what liberals call themselves when trying to hide their agenda. And yes, I <strong>do</strong> think I can speak to your political ideology. Severian's already dissected your commentary and its implications superbly; I'd invite you to re-read those comments. <em>For the record, I am not liberal. I've been in the military and have had the opportunity to see our enemies face to face. Have you?</em> Total non sequitur. One has nothing to do with the other. Are you trying to say veterans can't be liberals? That's nonsense. Exhibit A: Jean-Francois Kerry. Oh, and if you want to try the 'chickenhawk' meme on a more appropriate thread here sometime, please do. I can think of at least a dozen regulars here, including myself, who would love to demolish that inane line of non-thinking. But for the record, the answer to your question is yes, I have. <em>My comment was merely saying that all media (yours, mine, theirs) seemed to move away from the health issues Mr Johnson has into the area of power struggles. It would have been best if we backed off a day or two to ascertain his condition. </em> I agree completely with the last part. And if that's all you'd said, there'd be no further commentary here. But most of your post wasn't 'merely' a hope for media restraint. It was a rant laced with far-left drivel that looks like a cut-and-paste job from Kos. As Severian said, if that's how you present yourself, we have every right to consider you a 'raving partisan nutjob'. It would be the same incorrect analogy to say that Republicans are conservatives.
If I said that by ‘progressive’ you mean ‘Democrat’, your analogy would hold water. But I didn’t, so you’re wrong. ‘Progressive’ is the what liberals call themselves when trying to hide their agenda. And yes, I do think I can speak to your political ideology. Severian’s already dissected your commentary and its implications superbly; I’d invite you to re-read those comments.

For the record, I am not liberal. I’ve been in the military and have had the opportunity to see our enemies face to face. Have you?

Total non sequitur. One has nothing to do with the other. Are you trying to say veterans can’t be liberals? That’s nonsense. Exhibit A: Jean-Francois Kerry.

Oh, and if you want to try the ‘chickenhawk’ meme on a more appropriate thread here sometime, please do. I can think of at least a dozen regulars here, including myself, who would love to demolish that inane line of non-thinking. But for the record, the answer to your question is yes, I have.

My comment was merely saying that all media (yours, mine, theirs) seemed to move away from the health issues Mr Johnson has into the area of power struggles. It would have been best if we backed off a day or two to ascertain his condition.

I agree completely with the last part. And if that’s all you’d said, there’d be no further commentary here. But most of your post wasn’t ‘merely’ a hope for media restraint. It was a rant laced with far-left drivel that looks like a cut-and-paste job from Kos. As Severian said, if that’s how you present yourself, we have every right to consider you a ‘raving partisan nutjob’.

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