Comments on: Debunking the “the Kansas NG was depleted thanks to Iraq” myth http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/ Don't dis or dismiss this miss! Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:28:30 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Mike http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-708572 Mike Sat, 12 May 2007 21:38:17 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/#comment-708572 I'm just sort of cruising around the 'net and looking at the media aftermath of the last week. What suprises me most - always - is how we Americans consistantly go off half cocked when something happens. We often form opinions without knowing the full story. I'm appalled by some of the rot I've seen in the media. The Guard had folks on the ground in Greensburg 4 hours after the F5 went through. That's not slow. The Gov of KS knows full well that "all she had to do was ask" for any assistance she needed through the Emergency Assistance Management Compact. (EMAC) She never asked. Why? Because she didn't need it, and still doesn't. Also, this agreement can mobilize more than just Guard assets. Nobody paid any attention to that. Below is a link to the organization I work for. It describes how the whole thing works as it pertains to the guard. Check it out. <a href="http://www.ngb.army.mil/features/homelanddefense/index.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>LINK</strong></a> I’m just sort of cruising around the ‘net and looking at the media aftermath of the last week. What suprises me most – always – is how we Americans consistantly go off half cocked when something happens. We often form opinions without knowing the full story. I’m appalled by some of the rot I’ve seen in the media. The Guard had folks on the ground in Greensburg 4 hours after the F5 went through. That’s not slow. The Gov of KS knows full well that “all she had to do was ask” for any assistance she needed through the Emergency Assistance Management Compact. (EMAC) She never asked. Why? Because she didn’t need it, and still doesn’t. Also, this agreement can mobilize more than just Guard assets. Nobody paid any attention to that. Below is a link to the organization I work for. It describes how the whole thing works as it pertains to the guard. Check it out.

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]]> By: Severian http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-708374 Severian Thu, 10 May 2007 12:40:26 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/#comment-708374 I have the following, first hand information from a friend on another forum I participate in that's interesting and very relevant, particularly with respect to the sensationalist, make the news not report it, bent of the MSM. He is a volunteer from a church that was involved in the cleanup efforts and early rescue efforts, and heard these comments on the reporters: <blockquote> First, <strong>the reporters were unsatisfied with the universal reactions of the victims</strong>, typically--"We are blessed that we still have our family. Sure, we've lost all of our 'stuff,' but that can be replaced. Our trust in the Lord has grown, and we thank Him for sparing us from harm." He said that the <strong>national ABC reporter told him that they'd just keep on looking until they found a suitable tearful, distraught victim, "Because that's what the people in New York City want to see."</strong> My friend suggested that the New Yorkers ought to move to Kansas! Second, <strong>several of the press "raided" a wrecked VFW building and brought out brand-new American flags, which they draped over wreckage such as cars and trucks to make "better" pictures.</strong> While there were flags displayed by disaster victims those courageous displays of "old" flags in non camera-ready settings were apparently not good enough. Our church was planning to participate further in the disaster relief effort tomorrow. My friend said we should call it off as the only non-financial aid that was relevant was pickup truck owners who knew victims and could follow them into the wreckage today to help salvage. At checkpoints into the city, officials were allowing only residents and others vouched for by residents into the city. The officials are putting the address of the owner's property on the windshields of the vehicles permitted access into the area, and carefully checking to be sure that nobody strays from the location indicated. Tomorrow, the effort will be to bulldoze everything "under." My friend is a native of western Kansas, and believes that the pioneer spirit of the survivors of the Greensburg disaster will be sure to rebuild. Send money and prayers if you want to help! (Addresses: God, Red Cross, Salvation Army)</blockquote> Note that these fine folks, excellent examples of the traditional American spirit of self-reliance and ambition, have already gotten their kit together enough to start plowing things under as preparation for rebuilding, and are not sitting around with their hands held out whining and blaming someone else. Can't report that though, it shows up the Katrina mess in a bad light that reflects poorly on the "victims." I have the following, first hand information from a friend on another forum I participate in that’s interesting and very relevant, particularly with respect to the sensationalist, make the news not report it, bent of the MSM. He is a volunteer from a church that was involved in the cleanup efforts and early rescue efforts, and heard these comments on the reporters:

First, the reporters were unsatisfied with the universal reactions of the victims, typically–”We are blessed that we still have our family. Sure, we’ve lost all of our ’stuff,’ but that can be replaced. Our trust in the Lord has grown, and we thank Him for sparing us from harm.” He said that the national ABC reporter told him that they’d just keep on looking until they found a suitable tearful, distraught victim, “Because that’s what the people in New York City want to see.” My friend suggested that the New Yorkers ought to move to Kansas!

Second, several of the press “raided” a wrecked VFW building and brought out brand-new American flags, which they draped over wreckage such as cars and trucks to make “better” pictures. While there were flags displayed by disaster victims those courageous displays of “old” flags in non camera-ready settings were apparently not good enough.

Our church was planning to participate further in the disaster relief effort tomorrow. My friend said we should call it off as the only non-financial aid that was relevant was pickup truck owners who knew victims and could follow them into the wreckage today to help salvage. At checkpoints into the city, officials were allowing only residents and others vouched for by residents into the city. The officials are putting the address of the owner’s property on the windshields of the vehicles permitted access into the area, and carefully checking to be sure that nobody strays from the location indicated. Tomorrow, the effort will be to bulldoze everything “under.”

My friend is a native of western Kansas, and believes that the pioneer spirit of the survivors of the Greensburg disaster will be sure to rebuild. Send money and prayers if you want to help! (Addresses: God, Red Cross, Salvation Army)

Note that these fine folks, excellent examples of the traditional American spirit of self-reliance and ambition, have already gotten their kit together enough to start plowing things under as preparation for rebuilding, and are not sitting around with their hands held out whining and blaming someone else. Can’t report that though, it shows up the Katrina mess in a bad light that reflects poorly on the “victims.”

]]> By: Drewsmom http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-708368 Drewsmom Thu, 10 May 2007 10:58:47 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/#comment-708368 Even in a time of great sorrow for the loss of life and property after an act of GOD, the dems don't miss a beat blaming this all on Bush. This is just too much.:-w Even in a time of great sorrow for the loss of life and property after an act of GOD, the dems don’t miss a beat blaming this all on Bush. This is just too much.:-w

]]> By: Leaning Straight Up http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-708340 Leaning Straight Up Thu, 10 May 2007 02:05:36 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/#comment-708340 <strong>Kansas Governor claims her National Guard is depleted, but it isn’t</strong> Kansas Governor Gov. Kathleen Sebelius has decided to follow the nutroots and blame Bush for the Tornado.  Ok, not for the actual Tornado.  Instead she has pulled a Blanco, and channeled Katrina by not requesting mutual assistance via the Eme... Kansas Governor claims her National Guard is depleted, but it isn’t

Kansas Governor Gov. Kathleen Sebelius has decided to follow the nutroots and blame Bush for the Tornado.  Ok, not for the actual Tornado.  Instead she has pulled a Blanco, and channeled Katrina by not requesting mutual assistance via the Eme…

]]> By: Severian http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-708311 Severian Wed, 09 May 2007 19:05:20 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/#comment-708311 Well, GWR, turning a max of 21 inches of sea level rise into over 20 feet, and 14 or so casualties into 10,000 definitely requires you to use the same AlGore-ythm! ;) Well, GWR, turning a max of 21 inches of sea level rise into over 20 feet, and 14 or so casualties into 10,000 definitely requires you to use the same AlGore-ythm! ;)

]]> By: Iowa Voice http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-708306 Iowa Voice Wed, 09 May 2007 18:03:25 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/#comment-708306 <strong>An Honest Mistake?</strong> I don't know…10,000 as opposed to 12? That seems like one helluva gaffe: ... An Honest Mistake?

I don’t know…10,000 as opposed to 12? That seems like one helluva gaffe:

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]]> By: Great White Rat http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-708304 Great White Rat Wed, 09 May 2007 17:53:04 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/#comment-708304 Obama probably had al-Gore help him with the casualty calculations, just to be sure he was accurate... :d Obama probably had al-Gore help him with the casualty calculations, just to be sure he was accurate… :d

]]> By: Mwalimu Daudi http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-708297 Mwalimu Daudi Wed, 09 May 2007 17:04:30 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/#comment-708297 <em>Prediction: I see another Congressional investigation in the making!!!!! </em> It will probably be along the lines of: Did Bush use space aliens captured from the mother ship to launch cruise missiles from Area 51 to destroy levees in New Orleans but hit Kansas instead (what incompetence) in order to cover up evidence that Mark Foley, Karl Rove and Ken Lay directed Jack Abramhoff to steal oil from Iraq while outting Valerie Plame and Jamil Hussein and sending unmarked black helicopters from Halliburton to employ the Patriot Act, data-mining, and the Bush Air National Guard memos to flush water-boarded Korans down the toilet at Gitmo, thus causing global warming and proving 9/11 was a worldwide Jewish chickenhawk Religious Right FOX News conspiracy to rule the world? Only a investigation run by a Democrat Congress can possibly answer these questions. I can see the NYT winning another Pulitzer over this! Prediction: I see another Congressional investigation in the making!!!!!

It will probably be along the lines of: Did Bush use space aliens captured from the mother ship to launch cruise missiles from Area 51 to destroy levees in New Orleans but hit Kansas instead (what incompetence) in order to cover up evidence that Mark Foley, Karl Rove and Ken Lay directed Jack Abramhoff to steal oil from Iraq while outting Valerie Plame and Jamil Hussein and sending unmarked black helicopters from Halliburton to employ the Patriot Act, data-mining, and the Bush Air National Guard memos to flush water-boarded Korans down the toilet at Gitmo, thus causing global warming and proving 9/11 was a worldwide Jewish chickenhawk Religious Right FOX News conspiracy to rule the world?

Only a investigation run by a Democrat Congress can possibly answer these questions.

I can see the NYT winning another Pulitzer over this!

]]> By: NC Cop http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-708290 NC Cop Wed, 09 May 2007 15:47:01 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/#comment-708290 Prediction: I see another Congressional investigation in the making!!!!! Prediction: I see another Congressional investigation in the making!!!!!

]]> By: Ryan http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-708288 Ryan Wed, 09 May 2007 15:30:55 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/#comment-708288 I'm tired. :) I’m tired. :)

]]> By: Sister Toldjah http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-708286 Sister Toldjah Wed, 09 May 2007 15:16:24 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/#comment-708286 <blockquote>"There are going to be times when I get tired" he said. "There are going to be times when I get weary. There are going to be times when I make mistakes."</blockquote> Was he tired when he decided he was going to run for president? :))

“There are going to be times when I get tired” he said. “There are going to be times when I get weary. There are going to be times when I make mistakes.”

Was he tired when he decided he was going to run for president? :))

]]> By: CZ http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-708284 CZ Wed, 09 May 2007 15:09:13 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/05/09/debunking-the-the-kansas-ng-was-depleted-thanks-to-iraq-myth/#comment-708284 Sounds to me that Sen. O'Bama <a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8P0K1FG2&show_article=1" target="_bank" rel="nofollow"><strong>gets weary</strong></a> from a bit of campaigning then he is obviously unfit for the world's most challenging job. ~:> <blockquote>Barack Obama, caught up in the fervor of a campaign speech Tuesday, drastically overstated the Kansas tornadoes death toll, saying 10,000 had died. As the Illinois senator concluded his remarks a few minutes later, he appeared to realize his gaffe. "There are going to be times when I get tired," he said. "There are going to be times when I get weary. There are going to be times when I make mistakes."</blockquote> Sounds to me that Sen. O’Bama gets weary from a bit of campaigning then he is obviously unfit for the world’s most challenging job.
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Barack Obama, caught up in the fervor of a campaign speech Tuesday, drastically overstated the Kansas tornadoes death toll, saying 10,000 had died.

As the Illinois senator concluded his remarks a few minutes later, he appeared to realize his gaffe. “There are going to be times when I get tired,” he said. “There are going to be times when I get weary. There are going to be times when I make mistakes.”

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