Comments on: Thoughts on a Rudy Giuliani nomination

By: NC Cop

NC Cop — Mon, 21 May 2007 00:47:48 +0000

43 is a disaster. Never forget this fact.

Ahh, I see the problem. You see, tommy, “43 is a disaster” is an OPINION, not a fact. It is the truth as YOU see it, not everybody else.

Now saying something like “2+2=4″, THAT is a fact.

See the difference guy?

By: CavalierX

CavalierX — Sat, 19 May 2007 05:31:26 +0000

“And what IS YOUR POSITION about this topic. Do you agree with me that an adult woman should be able to chouse whether or not she wants too become a mommy?”

Absolutely! If she doesn’t want to take a chance on getting pregnant, she probably shouldn’t have sex. Is the sex = pregnancy connection too sophisticated for you Liberals to make? Or perhaps it’s the pregnancy = life = responsibility thing that eludes you.

By: Mekan

Mekan — Fri, 18 May 2007 22:44:11 +0000

Leslie,

That is why I just can’t vote for Rudy. I will vote for no candidate that seeks to harm cute lil ferrets.

By: Leslie

Leslie — Fri, 18 May 2007 19:33:34 +0000

ST says,

“So if you’re pro-life and are committed to keeping a pro-life type in the WH, there aren’t any good options. It’s incredibly frustrating, because I feel there is no one for me to turn to, outside of a staunch pro-lifer like Mike Huckabee, and I really don’t see his candidacy going anywhere.”

This is normally what happens at the end of a political cycle: When the prevailing ideology fails, or is seen to fail (and is there a difference?) a certain segment of the former majority feels it has no place to go. Sometimes there’s nothing to do but wait it out, wait for the pendulum to swing back in the other direction. And while one waits one can either go emo, and rage, rage at the dying of light (which has always struck me as a rather inefficient expenditure of energy), or sit on your front porch and play “Yes Sir, That’s My Baby” on the banjo. (A Jean Shepherd reference I just tossed in there.)

Anyway, speaking pragmatically, my sense at this point in time is that the only GOP candidate with any kind of chance to win the general election is, well, Rudy, Fighter of Ferrets.

By: tommy in nyc

tommy in nyc — Fri, 18 May 2007 18:39:02 +0000

Mekan it is ok to agree to disagree and Lorica I also hope the Dems start running the country again but for vastly different reasons than you espoused. 43 is a disaster. Never forget this fact. And Tom B I also know woman who have regretted making that personal decision also. No joke but as far as I am concerned it is a personal decision not the governments and IMHO it is just that simple.

By: vegas art guy

vegas art guy — Fri, 18 May 2007 18:37:59 +0000

You know excites me about this? It’s that we’re ABLE to have this conversation. Unlike the left, which forces you to march in lock step with Soros, er the DNC, (remember what happened to Liberman?) the Republicans can and should have differences. The fact that we have viable canidates that go from right of center to the right and everywhere in between is a great strength. It means that the GOP is more inclusive than the Democrats and more open minded. I would LOVE to see Fred run, but anyone on the GOP is FAR superior to anyone the democrats can dredge up. Keep that in mind as the election goes along. Iron sharpens Iron right?

By: Mekan

Mekan — Fri, 18 May 2007 17:53:32 +0000

Tommy in NYC,
I understand your feelings and know we will never see eye to eye on this subject. The choice to not have a baby is before having sex. I know, a puritanical view, but once that egg is fertilized it is a human being. We may not have known that once. We may not have really known that scientifically until 20 years ago. But the genetic coding of the human being is complete and present at the moment of conception. You tommy, were all that you might be at that very moment. This is scientific and not simply a philosophical or religious point of view.

Now, the choice to accept that or not is up to you. Currently our nation, by court mandate, has determined it ok to ‘terminate’ whatever ‘it’ is from the time of conception through the point of birth.

If you accept that the fertilized human egg is a innocent human being, or maintain that only a fetus that can survive outside the womb is a person does not matter. We as a nation are free to terminate them all. If that is the way it should be then a parent should also have the right to terminate handicapped or mentally ill children. Sons and daughters should have the right to terminate their feeble parents. You see, what we are doing is making a judgment that innocent human life is worth less than our convenience. How far do we go before life is worth more than convenience? Many civilizations moved to exterminate the troublesome Jews, Catholics, feeble, and wrong thinkers because it was convenient.

Many will argue the case of rape and incest. In very rare cases a baby must be killed to save the life of the mother, and that is a very justified decision in that scenario. I would not be happy about that compromise, but I could live with it. The number of abortions committed due to rape and incest is very low; although if that were the only way to have an abortion I think the number of rape and incest victims would skyrocket. So if we take those two issues off the table you can not argue that abortion is for anything other than convenience.

To sum this all up, the woman has the right to choose. That choice is made before there is life. Scientifically that life starts at the moment of conception. Once there is life it should be protected and only destroyed if there is a determined danger posed to another life.

I know you don’t agree Tommy.

By: Lorica

Lorica — Fri, 18 May 2007 17:42:36 +0000

Now onto my thoughts about Rudy. After seeing how moderate Reps continue to screw conservatives, hell will freeze over before I vote for him. I am so sick of these spineless moderates, that I flat out refuse to vote for them, I would rather see the Dems ruin this country, in the hopes that we can restart, than vote to help them ruin it. – Lorica

By: Lorica

Lorica — Fri, 18 May 2007 17:39:10 +0000

I agree with you Tom TB. I know women who have to tell themselves everyday it was the right decision. If it was the right decision, then why do so many women regret that decision?? I also know a woman who had an abortion and it collapsed her tubes, she could never have a child again. She calls it the worst mistake of her life.

Tommy you are decieved. If a woman is going to make the choice not to be a Mommy, then she should not surrender her body over to a man. It is her body, so why does she give it to a man, and then expect to get rid of the child that interaction produces. It is stupid thinking, for lazy people. Also I bet the waiting list for adoptions in NY is 3 years or more. How many of those babies would find wonderful homes with adults who can’t be Mommies or Daddies, but want to so dearly. Thus accomplishing the very same objective.

As far as Sis abridging your rights to speak, no one is saying you can’t post here. She is saying that we, the people who have to read your posts, shouldn’t be subjected to the insulting swearing. But, like a good “if I can’t swear, you are taking away my rights” lib, you have to run to the stupidity of accusations. – Lorica

By: Tom TB

Tom TB — Fri, 18 May 2007 16:38:01 +0000

tommy in nyc, the women I know who had abortions 40 years ago and are past child-bearing age have nothing but regrets.

By: tommy in nyc

tommy in nyc — Fri, 18 May 2007 15:17:36 +0000

Well OK about my choice of words ST I always thought youse folks on the right like freedom of speech IQ mean after all Youse folks are against the “fair time” broadcasting that some of us the left (not me personally) are advocating????????????? And what IS YOUR POSITION about this topic. Do you agree with me that an adult woman should be able to chouse whether or not she wants too become a mommy? And if you agree with me why in the world would you vote for fascists who would legistate the most personal decision any woman would have to make

By: Sister Toldjah

Sister Toldjah — Fri, 18 May 2007 14:53:42 +0000

tommy, I want you to cool it on the cursing. I don’t just mean by your little creative editing of your curse words, because that doesn’t cut it. I mean cool it.

By: tommy in nyc

tommy in nyc — Fri, 18 May 2007 14:36:28 +0000

Edited. –ST I have said this before and and I will say this again I once helped a young teenage woman have an abortion by freaking paying for it when I was a teenager……… and she was one too… 10 years later I ran into the lady and she started crying the moment she saw me. Thanking me for helping her out in a time of personal crisis and being non-judgemental about how she wound up in that situation in the first place.IT IS A WOMAN’S CHOICE NOT THE edited. –ST GOVERNMENT’S CHOICE. GET IT????????????????????

By: Tom TB

Tom TB — Fri, 18 May 2007 13:52:24 +0000

Mekan, the psychological effects of abortion on demand probably will never be measured. I’ve known women who have trouble seeing children playing in a park.

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[...] Glenn Beck believes that the War on Terror has replaced abortion as the single issue that he will vote on this election. I personally believe that he is wrong. Abortion is a defining issue that tells us about a person’s willingness and ability to compromise innocent life for convenience. Sister Toldjah, boy I have been reading a lot of her blog lately, takes a different stand. As the good Sister tells you in her post, she was once a strong pro-choice that has changed her position. Maybe Governor Romney really has changed his position on this issue.? [...]