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	<title>Comments on: Michael Moore plays fast and loose with the facts &#8211; again &#8211; in his latest anti-America &#8216;documentary&#8217;</title>
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	<description>Don&#039;t dis or dismiss this miss!</description>
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		<title>By: forest hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>forest hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 00:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno about the peas in a pod. Have you seen the trailer for Moore&#039;s next sequel *Beneath the rabbit hutch*? *We are all equal* was discarded due to Mooron&#039;s &quot;woefully uneducated, self-congratulatory, self-laudatory&quot; impression of his highness.

Someone upstairs screams &quot;QUARTER!&quot; every time this idiot lays his marble filled head down as the hollow sound of a pool hall break gone awry echoes and the clue ball bounces on the basement floor and rolls away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno about the peas in a pod. Have you seen the trailer for Moore&#8217;s next sequel *Beneath the rabbit hutch*? *We are all equal* was discarded due to Mooron&#8217;s &#8220;woefully uneducated, self-congratulatory, self-laudatory&#8221; impression of his highness.</p>
<p>Someone upstairs screams &#8220;QUARTER!&#8221; every time this idiot lays his marble filled head down as the hollow sound of a pool hall break gone awry echoes and the clue ball bounces on the basement floor and rolls away.</p>
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		<title>By: NC Cop</title>
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		<dc:creator>NC Cop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 17:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tano, Moore&#039;s so called &quot;documentaries&quot; have been nothing more than pre-arranged, anti-American, propaganda.  His 9/11 movie as well as bowling for columbine were dissected and ripped apart by several experts.

Our health care system is far from perfect, but people still come here from all over the world to get medical treatment.

Please get some information before you go spouting off about things you know nothing about.  It may save you some embarrassment  and you may actually learn something new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tano, Moore&#8217;s so called &#8220;documentaries&#8221; have been nothing more than pre-arranged, anti-American, propaganda.  His 9/11 movie as well as bowling for columbine were dissected and ripped apart by several experts.</p>
<p>Our health care system is far from perfect, but people still come here from all over the world to get medical treatment.</p>
<p>Please get some information before you go spouting off about things you know nothing about.  It may save you some embarrassment  and you may actually learn something new.</p>
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		<title>By: Severian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Severian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 15:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Of course the elite get to go to special hospitals, so they&#039;ll have no problem. &lt;/em&gt;

And therein lies the problem. In a government managed and rationed health care system, the &quot;coin of the realm&quot; to get better health care is influence, who you are or who you know that can get you better treatment. In the US type of free market care, that &quot;coin&quot; is actually coin, that is money. Money is far more egalitarian than influence. Anyone can get money, borrow, charity, earn it, buy your own insurance, it&#039;s not denied based on position, power, or influence. No system is perfect, but the free market system is more accessible than a regulated and restricted/rationed one. 

I&#039;m sorry to hear about the chest pains, and the delays Erik, I hope it works out alright. By contrast, here in the US, I know a person who developed angina, saw a doctor the same day, had a stress test the next day, an angiogram the day after, and two days after that was undergoing cardiac bypass surgery. Less than a week from chest pain to surgery, and he&#039;s doing well now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Of course the elite get to go to special hospitals, so they&#8217;ll have no problem. </em></p>
<p>And therein lies the problem. In a government managed and rationed health care system, the &#8220;coin of the realm&#8221; to get better health care is influence, who you are or who you know that can get you better treatment. In the US type of free market care, that &#8220;coin&#8221; is actually coin, that is money. Money is far more egalitarian than influence. Anyone can get money, borrow, charity, earn it, buy your own insurance, it&#8217;s not denied based on position, power, or influence. No system is perfect, but the free market system is more accessible than a regulated and restricted/rationed one. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to hear about the chest pains, and the delays Erik, I hope it works out alright. By contrast, here in the US, I know a person who developed angina, saw a doctor the same day, had a stress test the next day, an angiogram the day after, and two days after that was undergoing cardiac bypass surgery. Less than a week from chest pain to surgery, and he&#8217;s doing well now.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 14:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tano, yes I have. 
I even live with one of the healthcare system Moore praises as being so great. I haven&#039;t read about what he talks about, I live it. 
I&#039;ve seen going for months with chest pains, waiting to get an appointment with a doctor.
I&#039;ve seen people walk on crutches for years because the doctors dont think it&#039;s serious enough to fix.
I&#039;ve seen people denied healthcare because &quot;you&#039;re too old, it&#039;s not cost effective&quot;. 
And that&#039;s just the top of it, and none of the really bad stuff that happens.

You see, when government takes money from you, and use it to pay for your healthcare, then government gets to decide when you get healthcare, and what kind of healthcare you should get. You dont have a say in it, because the government pays the bills. Of course the elite get to go to special hospitals, so they&#039;ll have no problem. (Do you actually think Moore would go to public healthcare clinics if he lived here??)

I&#039;d rather have an american health insurance and travel there every time I got sick. If I pay for it, I get some say in it, and at least then I&#039;d know I&#039;d get to see a doctor if I get sick...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tano, yes I have.<br />
I even live with one of the healthcare system Moore praises as being so great. I haven&#8217;t read about what he talks about, I live it.<br />
I&#8217;ve seen going for months with chest pains, waiting to get an appointment with a doctor.<br />
I&#8217;ve seen people walk on crutches for years because the doctors dont think it&#8217;s serious enough to fix.<br />
I&#8217;ve seen people denied healthcare because &#8220;you&#8217;re too old, it&#8217;s not cost effective&#8221;.<br />
And that&#8217;s just the top of it, and none of the really bad stuff that happens.</p>
<p>You see, when government takes money from you, and use it to pay for your healthcare, then government gets to decide when you get healthcare, and what kind of healthcare you should get. You dont have a say in it, because the government pays the bills. Of course the elite get to go to special hospitals, so they&#8217;ll have no problem. (Do you actually think Moore would go to public healthcare clinics if he lived here??)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather have an american health insurance and travel there every time I got sick. If I pay for it, I get some say in it, and at least then I&#8217;d know I&#8217;d get to see a doctor if I get sick&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Drewsmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drewsmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 10:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, NC Cop and Great White Rat are right on the money.
Fat ass moore is insane and now he has pissed off Canada, how cool is that.:d</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, NC Cop and Great White Rat are right on the money.<br />
Fat ass moore is insane and now he has pissed off Canada, how cool is that.<img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_bigsmile.gif' alt='&#58;&#100;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#58;&#100;' /></p>
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		<title>By: Great White Rat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Great White Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 09:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Showing little grasp of statistics, Moore mumbles (between stuffing handfuls of Twinkies down his gullet):

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Why is it that a baby born in Toronto has a better chance of making it to its first birthday than a baby born in Detroit?&quot;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Um, maybe because American doctors are more likely to go the extra mile to save endangered infants.

If you just let a seriously ill baby die at childbirth, it&#039;s not counted as a live birth, and doesn&#039;t go against the infant mortality rate.  If you deliver the baby alive, fight to save its life, and fail, you&#039;ve added to the number of babies that don&#039;t make it to the first birthday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Showing little grasp of statistics, Moore mumbles (between stuffing handfuls of Twinkies down his gullet):</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Why is it that a baby born in Toronto has a better chance of making it to its first birthday than a baby born in Detroit?&#8221;
</p></blockquote>
<p>Um, maybe because American doctors are more likely to go the extra mile to save endangered infants.</p>
<p>If you just let a seriously ill baby die at childbirth, it&#8217;s not counted as a live birth, and doesn&#8217;t go against the infant mortality rate.  If you deliver the baby alive, fight to save its life, and fail, you&#8217;ve added to the number of babies that don&#8217;t make it to the first birthday.</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 07:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So where are the facts that he supposedly got wrong?

All I see is a lot of empty assertions. You really think you can dismiss this so easily? Why would you want to anyway? Have you given a moment&#039;s real thought to what the problems in American health care are, what the good points and problems of other systems are, and whether we could, in fact, learn something? 

Or is this just knee-jerk liberal derangement syndome?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So where are the facts that he supposedly got wrong?</p>
<p>All I see is a lot of empty assertions. You really think you can dismiss this so easily? Why would you want to anyway? Have you given a moment&#8217;s real thought to what the problems in American health care are, what the good points and problems of other systems are, and whether we could, in fact, learn something? </p>
<p>Or is this just knee-jerk liberal derangement syndome?</p>
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		<title>By: NC Cop</title>
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		<dc:creator>NC Cop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 01:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully expect &quot;Shrek the 3rd&quot; to contain more facts than anything that Moore creates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully expect &#8220;Shrek the 3rd&#8221; to contain more facts than anything that Moore creates.</p>
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