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	<title>Comments on: Church counseling is now &#8220;torture&#8221; &#8230;</title>
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	<description>Don&#039;t dis or dismiss this miss!</description>
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		<title>By: rich glasgow</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/06/09/counseling-is-now-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-710804</link>
		<dc:creator>rich glasgow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 23:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Believe it or not, that roughly coincides with the United Nations&#039; official definition of &quot;torture.&quot; Here&#039;s the UN has to say: 

&quot;Desiring to make more effective the struggle against torture and other
cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment throughout the world,
 
     Have agreed as follows:
                                    PART I
 
                                  Article 1
     1.   For the purposes of this Convention, the term &quot;torture&quot; means any
act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is
intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or
a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a
third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or
intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on
discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at
the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or
other person acting in an official capacity.  It does not include pain or
suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions.&quot;

Unbelievable, isn&#039;t it?!  Here&#039;s what the link:http://www.un.org/documents/ga/res/39/a39r046.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe it or not, that roughly coincides with the United Nations&#8217; official definition of &#8220;torture.&#8221; Here&#8217;s the UN has to say: </p>
<p>&#8220;Desiring to make more effective the struggle against torture and other<br />
cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment throughout the world,</p>
<p>     Have agreed as follows:<br />
                                    PART I</p>
<p>                                  Article 1<br />
     1.   For the purposes of this Convention, the term &#8220;torture&#8221; means any<br />
act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is<br />
intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or<br />
a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a<br />
third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or<br />
intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on<br />
discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at<br />
the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or<br />
other person acting in an official capacity.  It does not include pain or<br />
suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unbelievable, isn&#8217;t it?!  Here&#8217;s what the link:http://www.un.org/documents/ga/res/39/a39r046.htm</p>
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		<title>By: NC Cop</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/06/09/counseling-is-now-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-710712</link>
		<dc:creator>NC Cop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 12:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t help but think of the quote by Andy Rooney when he said: 

&quot;If I disagree with homosexuality, that&#039;s an opinion, not a phobia.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help but think of the quote by Andy Rooney when he said: </p>
<p>&#8220;If I disagree with homosexuality, that&#8217;s an opinion, not a phobia.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Drewsmom</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/06/09/counseling-is-now-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-710703</link>
		<dc:creator>Drewsmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 09:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GIVE ME A BREAK.  WHAT NEXT?:((</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GIVE ME A BREAK.  WHAT NEXT?<img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_cry.gif' alt='&#58;&#40;&#40;' class='wp-smiley' width='22' height='18' title='&#58;&#40;&#40;' /></p>
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		<title>By: Great White Rat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Great White Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 05:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction...on re-reading, I see that was Taranto&#039;s comparison, not the NGLTF&#039;s.  But the larger point still stands.  THAT would be torture, not counseling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction&#8230;on re-reading, I see that was Taranto&#8217;s comparison, not the NGLTF&#8217;s.  But the larger point still stands.  THAT would be torture, not counseling.</p>
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		<title>By: Great White Rat</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/06/09/counseling-is-now-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-710689</link>
		<dc:creator>Great White Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 05:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I&#039;m defintely with ya here, ST.  Think we can get the ACLU to take our torture case??

Seriously, what nonsense.  Statements like the one the NGLTF made just show they have no concept whatsoever of what real torture is.  Ironically, if they were in the gentle care of those Gitmo inmates they&#039;re so concerned about, they&#039;d be stoned to death as perverts who defile islamic law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I&#8217;m defintely with ya here, ST.  Think we can get the ACLU to take our torture case??</p>
<p>Seriously, what nonsense.  Statements like the one the NGLTF made just show they have no concept whatsoever of what real torture is.  Ironically, if they were in the gentle care of those Gitmo inmates they&#8217;re so concerned about, they&#8217;d be stoned to death as perverts who defile islamic law.</p>
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