
I missed this article the first time around, but ST reader Sev passed the link on via email and I just now had time to check it out:
During Sunday night’s Democratic presidential debate, the candidates cited an oft-repeated source of the mess in Iraq: The White House’s refusal to heed knowledgeable advice.
Indeed, it has often been said that the president got into Iraq because he disregarded advice from the true regional experts: foreign-policy “realists” who put together the Gulf War I coalition and counseled President George H.W. Bush against regime change; “moderate” Sunni Arab Governments; and the U.S. intelligence community.
But what if today these groups were actually advising against an American withdrawal?
Consider Brent Scowcroft, dean of the Realist School, who openly opposed the war from the outset and was a lead skeptic of the president’s democracy-building agenda. In a recent Financial Times interview, he succinctly summed up the implication of withdrawal: “The costs of staying are visible; the costs of getting out are almost never discussed. If we get out before Iraq is stable, the entire Middle East region might start to resemble Iraq today. Getting out is not a solution.”
And here is retired Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni, former Centcom Commander and a vociferous critic of the what he sees as the administration’s naive and one-sided policy in Iraq and the broader Middle East: “When we are in Iraq we are in many ways containing the violence. If we back off we give it more room to breathe, and it may metastasize in some way and become a regional problem. We don’t have to be there at the same force level, but it is a five- to seven-year process to get any reasonable stability in Iraq.”
A number of Iraq’s Sunni Arab neighbors also opposed the war as well as the U.S. push for liberalizing the region’s authoritarian governments. Yet they now backchannel the same two priorities to Washington: Do not let Iran acquire nukes, and do not withdraw from Iraq.
A senior Gulf Cooperation Council official told me that “If America leaves Iraq, America will have to return. Soon. It will not be a clean break. It will not be a permanent goodbye. And by the time America returns, we will have all been drawn in. America will have to stabilize more than just Iraq. The warfare will have spread to other countries, governments will be overthrown. America’s military is barely holding on in Iraq today. How will it stabilize ‘Iraq Plus’?” (Iraq Plus is the term that some leaders in Arab capitals use to describe the region following a U.S. withdrawal.)
I heard similar warnings made repeatedly on a recent trip to almost every capital in the Persian Gulf–to some of America’s closest allies and hosts of our military.
Likewise, withdrawal proponents cite career U.S. intelligence professionals as war skeptics, and not without basis. Yet here is what the U.S. intelligence community predicted in its National Intelligence Estimate early this year: “Coalition capabilities, including force levels, resources, and operations, remain an essential stabilizing element in Iraq. If Coalition forces were withdrawn rapidly during the term of this Estimate, we judge that this almost certainly would lead to a significant increase in the scale and scope of sectarian conflict in Iraq. . . .
“If such a rapid withdrawal were to take place, we judge that the Iraqi Security Forces would be unlikely to survive as a non-sectarian national institution: neighboring countries–invited by Iraqi factions or unilaterally–might intervene openly in the conflict; massive civilian casualties and forced population displacement would be probable; al Qaida in Iraq would attempt to use parts of the country–particularly al-Anbar province–to plan increased attacks in and outside of Iraq; and spiraling violence and disarray in Iraq, along with Kurdish moves to control Kirkuk and strengthen autonomy, could prompt Turkey to launch a military incursion.”
If the presidential candidates go on a listening tour, it’s important to consider one additional group: A number of Western reporters who have spent the past few years in Iraq.
Make sure to read it all.
In essence, the writer is reminding us of the fact that Dems were screaming that we should listen to ‘the Generals’ as it related to ousting Donald Rumsfeld, yet wouldn’t listen to them when it came to them advising against withdrawal from Iraq. This type of selective citing of ‘experts’ is all too common within the rank and file in the Democratic party, unfortunately.
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And none of us are shocked by this right? After all the military is good when it advances their aims but otherwise it’s to be ignored and distrusted by the left.
MIGHT INTERVENE!?……. Attempt to use parts of the country?……. They have- and are- and will do this, by 1000 if we leave. As the General pointed out, it will require more time. The willfully ignorant tools who demonstrate their incapability’s daily, are now and will remain unable to grasp any part of why.
BDS is like an IED in that respect, which is made sadder due to the fact that they set themselves up.
After I saw that piece on the news about the Americans and Iraq soldiers finding the disabled orphans in a dump with no food or clothes, even though there were new clothes and food stocked on shelves, I’ve been really rethinking things.
Especially when I heard the Iraq minister say the kids were fine and the Americans were making it up.
When are these people gonna get it and start defending their country.
Yall know I’m not a lib but I think maybe we outta start quietly start withdrawing our troops.
We need em here on our borders.
Of course, leave alot in Kwait and other places but when I hear ingrates make comments when we RESCUE their neglected kids I get pissed.