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1. G Monster says:

   July 5, 2007 at 1:10 pm

   Interesting Article:

   LINK
2. NC Cop says:

   July 5, 2007 at 6:28 pm

   Great Article, G Monster. Interesting reading!
3. Terrye says:

   July 5, 2007 at 6:50 pm

   Sister:

   I know you said you lost some readers over the immigration debate. Well I stopped looking at several blogs over the immigration debate.

   So I will bookmark you because you made sense on this issue, which is more than can be said for a lot of folks who like to talk about just enforcing the laws, but do not seem capable of rational debate on the subject.

   I know Bush has put more people and resources into enforcement and border security than any president in history and while conservatives like Newt Gingrich can say what they like now, when he was Speaker of the House he did not do one thing to stem the tide, nothing.

   I think it is obvious that if it was as simple as just enforcing laws we would not be where we are, but I have to say I have lost a lot of respect for people on the right because of this issue.

   I am an Indpendent, center right, I have been voting Republican for several years and I voted for Bush. But I am not sure that will continue if the face of the Republican party in the future is anything like what I have seen on the blogs and heard on talk radio lately. I do not even want to be associated with some of these people. The biggest thing the Republicans have going for them right now is the sorry collection of Democrats opposing them.

   That might change and if it does, the Republicans will be in serious trouble. The immigration debate helped the Republicans lose the 06 election and if they keep alienating Independents and hispanics and moderates it might well cost them the next one.

   I know I have been called traitor enough times over this issue that I really don’t feel any loyalty at all to the socalled conservative base.
4. NC Cop says:

   July 5, 2007 at 11:03 pm

   It just gets better and better:

   Protestors refuse to pay taxes that fund war
5. Mwalimu Daudi says:

   July 5, 2007 at 11:20 pm

   NC Cop – can I refuse to pay my taxes because it goes to fund Congress’s salaries?
6. NC Cop says:

   July 5, 2007 at 11:42 pm

   I think that is something we should look into, MD!!!!
7. Lorica says:

   July 6, 2007 at 10:31 am

   Terrye,
   At one time the Republican Party was a third party, started by social conservatives who wanted to see the end of slavery in this country. The 1st Republican President was one of the greatest Presidents this country ever had. He made some of the hardest choices that any President ever had to make, not just going to war, but going to war with his own brothers and sisters. From the onset of this party’s creation, it has had the fortitude, and strength of character to do the right thing, even when it was politically expedient. I see that here and now, and I flat out refuse to operate under the fear that the Dems are going to win anything and create a bill that is more horrible than the one defeated, this thing was created “in the shadows”, and should have never seen the light of day. It needed to be defeated. And thankfully it was. – Lorica
8. Lorica says:

   July 6, 2007 at 10:34 am

   Crude!!

   it was politically expedient.

   This should read “Even when it wasn’t politically expedient”. – Lorica
9. Great White Rat says:

   July 6, 2007 at 11:43 pm

   Lieberman: Iran is the problem

   You have to wonder how Joe Lieberman can be so reliably wrong on every other issue – but there’s no one more dependable and clear-headed about the WOT:

   the Iranian government has been using the Lebanese terrorist group Hezbollah to train and organize Iraqi extremists, who are responsible in turn for the murder of American service members.
   …
   a special unit of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps … has taken groups of up to 60 Iraqi insurgents at a time and brought them to three camps near Tehran, where they have received instruction in the use of mortars, rockets, improvised explosive devices and other deadly tools of guerrilla warfare that they use against our troops. Iran has also funded its Iraqi proxies generously, to the tune of $3 million a month.
   …
   These latest revelations should be a painful wakeup call to the American people, and to the U.S. Congress.
   …
   In February, for instance, the U.S. military stated that forensic evidence has implicated Iran in the death of at least 170 U.S. soldiers.

   So we have more than a little proof that Iran is behind most of the violence and terrorism in the Middle East today. That shouldn’t shock any of us here.

   But there are the blame-America-first moonbats among us:

   While some will no doubt claim that Iran is only attacking U.S. soldiers in Iraq because they are deployed there–and that the solution, therefore, is to withdraw them–Iran’s parallel proxy attacks against moderate Palestinians, Afghans and Lebanese directly rebut such claims.

   He has an idea for a solution to the problem:

   The fanatical regime in Tehran has concluded that it can use proxies to strike at us and our friends in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon and Palestine without fear of retaliation. It is time to restore that fear

   This should be required reading for the Pelosis, Reids, Kennedys, and each and every Dem presidential wanna-be:

   Iran’s purpose in sponsoring attacks on American soldiers, after all, is clear: It hopes to push the U.S. out of Iraq and Afghanistan, so that its proxies can then dominate these states. Tehran knows that an American retreat under fire would send an unmistakable message throughout the region that Iran is on the rise and America is on the run. That would be a disaster for the region and the U.S.

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