while Americans continue to sacrifice their lives for either a lie or, if you prefer, a mistake.

I prefer neither.

I prefer “doing the right thing”.

But speaking for myself, and a few others whose opinion I have been privy to, we naturally assume that General Petraeus will give the report that the Bush administration wants him to give.

[emphasis mine]

As I commented here earlier,

When somebody’s been arguing for a long time that something is so, it morphs into a belief system. And once that happens, there’s no turning back. Every factoid must be jimmied into the belief system in some way.

Thank you for proving my point, Gryphen.

While referencing an authority in any field (Cordesman in this case) as they are human and capable of being mistaken, it’s important to measure the individual in their entirety, else one might just follow a logical fallacy that does not and can not imply the truth automatically.

The freedom to choose what one wishes to believe or not, is part and parcel to living in a free democratic society. For those who’s personal choices exclude the hopes of all freedom loving peoples, including the Iraqi, and are constantly on the lookout for reasons to cut and run, their loyalties have been/are duly noted.

The incontrovertible clarity of those who consistently choose to display their disinterest in the excruciating efforts associated with progressive accomplishments, also tend to suffer with short term gratification and it serves a brutal unyielding master.

Well I cannot speak for all of the anti-war left as we are a loosely connected group…

Loosely connected to what Gryphen? Ever so adroit at reality avoidance…..

…we naturally assume that General Petraeus will give the report that the Bush administration wants him to give.

Now there’s a shocker…BDS in bloom! Whoda thunkit? You are clueless as to how these reports are created.

…we will all continue playing this desperate game while Americans continue to sacrifice their lives for either a lie or, if you prefer, a mistake.

If by *we* you refer to the mice in your quadrant, then yes, I’m somewhat obliged to agree with your assessment. The desperation from AQ and it’s allies is becoming increasingly obvious, as the lies of the mediots and other tools, surviving in an alternate universe come into fruition.

I for one have heard enough of this same inane babbling since the leftards created the Killing Fields and could care less about what the whiny anti-everything BDS twisted morons devoid of a reasoning ability, pretend to understand. The best way to prolong The Long War on Terror is to do what you are doing now. Don’t help to end the war by uniting against the those who want your head removed. Keep pretending that your ill advised rhetoric works, while all of your inanity turns minutes to hours and days to weeks. If you actually gave a damn about defeating the World’s, as well as America’s enemies, you would SDASTFU!

And yes I can speak to the fact that no matter what Petraeous says I will remain anti-war. And I am certainly not alone.

And I can certainly assure you that I will support our action in Iraq and see it as just as important to our security as Afghanistan. And I am certainly not alone.

What of the democrats who recently went to Iraq Gryphen? Some of them came back speaking positively of the surge and what’s going on in Iraq. Are they “lap dogs” for Bush too?

But speaking for myself, and a few others whose opinion I have been privy to, we naturally assume that General Petraeus will give the report that the Bush administration wants him to give

Naturally, of course. In other words, not open-minded to the fact that his report could be spot on.

We do not, for an instant, believe that they would all be standing around calmly awaiting a report that may tell them that everything that they hoped for was a giant failure.

So Petraeus will give his report and then it will be lauded by the right and attacked by the left and we will all continue playing this desperate game while Americans continue to sacrifice their lives for either a lie or, if you prefer, a mistake.

And yes I can speak to the fact that no matter what Petraeous says I will remain anti-war. And I am certainly not alone.

Thank you for the opportunity to address your question.

It’s almost as if they’re wishing things weren’t turning around in Iraq, doesn’t it?

Well, look. When somebody’s been arguing for a long time that something is so, it morphs into a belief system. And once that happens, there’s no turning back. Every factoid must be jimmied into the belief system in some way.

And when two belief systems clash (the surge is working/no it’s not) invectives are hurled, ad hominem attacks occur, and food fights break out.

Remember the “spheres within spheres” as those who clung to the notion that the sun revolves around the earth created in their increasingly desperate attempts to avoid falling into the precipace of heliocentrism?

“Eppur si muove”