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		<title>By: Logon Didonai</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/08/15/why-is-mary-winkler-free/comment-page-1/#comment-717497</link>
		<dc:creator>Logon Didonai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 16:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consider this: 

If every woman in the middle east were to kill an abusive husband would there be any need for diplomacy and the ten US Army divisions floundering in that political sink hole? Its the fault of the millions of stupid females who permit men to define them by their vagina (what&#039;s left of it...) and who force upon them the severely restricting intellectual disposition of a sand lizard.

The Pastor&#039;s wife has been freed by the COURT... after a careful review of all the facts unavailable to the public. Everyone screams about the horror of judges being too liberal and lenient until they face the bench as a suspect. Then they pray for a liberal judge.

He wanted oral sex and his demand offended her self image. He forced the issue. She defended herself. It was rape... marital rape...by her PRIEST.
He deserved every pellet she gave him. Anyone who has endured sexual abuse by a trusted person would agree.

The wound never heals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consider this: </p>
<p>If every woman in the middle east were to kill an abusive husband would there be any need for diplomacy and the ten US Army divisions floundering in that political sink hole? Its the fault of the millions of stupid females who permit men to define them by their vagina (what&#8217;s left of it&#8230;) and who force upon them the severely restricting intellectual disposition of a sand lizard.</p>
<p>The Pastor&#8217;s wife has been freed by the COURT&#8230; after a careful review of all the facts unavailable to the public. Everyone screams about the horror of judges being too liberal and lenient until they face the bench as a suspect. Then they pray for a liberal judge.</p>
<p>He wanted oral sex and his demand offended her self image. He forced the issue. She defended herself. It was rape&#8230; marital rape&#8230;by her PRIEST.<br />
He deserved every pellet she gave him. Anyone who has endured sexual abuse by a trusted person would agree.</p>
<p>The wound never heals.</p>
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		<title>By: Great White Rat</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/08/15/why-is-mary-winkler-free/comment-page-1/#comment-716475</link>
		<dc:creator>Great White Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Divorce or WEAVE was an option.&lt;/em&gt;

Or maybe she&#039;s a basketball coach when not killing family members...   :d</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Divorce or WEAVE was an option.</em></p>
<p>Or maybe she&#8217;s a basketball coach when not killing family members&#8230;   <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_bigsmile.gif' alt='&#58;&#100;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#58;&#100;' /></p>
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		<title>By: Steve Skubinna</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/08/15/why-is-mary-winkler-free/comment-page-1/#comment-716442</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Skubinna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha ha!  Bak, you mowon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha!  Bak, you mowon!</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/08/15/why-is-mary-winkler-free/comment-page-1/#comment-716396</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whew. That one went over my head for a full 20 seconds ST. I finally got it... :&quot;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whew. That one went over my head for a full 20 seconds ST. I finally got it&#8230; <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_blush.gif' alt='&#58;&#34;&#62;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#58;&#34;&#62;' /></p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/08/15/why-is-mary-winkler-free/comment-page-1/#comment-716395</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Divorce or WEAVE was an option.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Weave got one day til Friday ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Divorce or WEAVE was an option.</p></blockquote>
<p>Weave got one day til Friday <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_wink.gif' alt='&#59;&#41;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#59;&#41;' /></p>
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		<title>By: Severian</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/08/15/why-is-mary-winkler-free/comment-page-1/#comment-716379</link>
		<dc:creator>Severian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Divorce or WEAVE was an option.&lt;/em&gt;

Was he a carpetbagger? Did he wear a &quot;rug?&quot; :-&quot;

Sorry Bak, couldn&#039;t help myself. :)&gt;-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Divorce or WEAVE was an option.</em></p>
<p>Was he a carpetbagger? Did he wear a &#8220;rug?&#8221; <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_whistling.gif' alt='&#58;&#45;&#34;' class='wp-smiley' width='22' height='18' title='&#58;&#45;&#34;' /></p>
<p>Sorry Bak, couldn&#8217;t help myself. <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_peace.gif' alt='&#58;&#41;&#62;&#45;' class='wp-smiley' width='22' height='18' title='&#58;&#41;&#62;&#45;' /></p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/08/15/why-is-mary-winkler-free/comment-page-1/#comment-716374</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They point Leslie is that it IS &lt;strong&gt;irrelevant&lt;/strong&gt;.

Divorce or WEAVE was an option.

Having your husband charged for assault was an option.

Now it&#039;s not. He&#039;s DEAD. He has no defense. The children nor he can visit each other anymore.

She is a danger to society because she does not know how to deal with issues.

Teenagers will be an issue for her. What will she do? Point a weapon at them to get them to talk to her?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They point Leslie is that it IS <strong>irrelevant</strong>.</p>
<p>Divorce or WEAVE was an option.</p>
<p>Having your husband charged for assault was an option.</p>
<p>Now it&#8217;s not. He&#8217;s DEAD. He has no defense. The children nor he can visit each other anymore.</p>
<p>She is a danger to society because she does not know how to deal with issues.</p>
<p>Teenagers will be an issue for her. What will she do? Point a weapon at them to get them to talk to her?</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/08/15/why-is-mary-winkler-free/comment-page-1/#comment-716366</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info, ST.

It would be interesting to know what testimony the jury heard, not what the family said on TV. If anybody knows, please comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info, ST.</p>
<p>It would be interesting to know what testimony the jury heard, not what the family said on TV. If anybody knows, please comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/08/15/why-is-mary-winkler-free/comment-page-1/#comment-716296</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Leslie,

I don&#039;t know what all evidence was presented at the trial, but I do know that her family has appeared on TV before and talked about some of the abuse she is alleged to have gone through.  I went on the basis of assuming for purposes of discussion that even if it was true, it still didn&#039;t justify murder and subsequently only seven months in police custody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Leslie,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what all evidence was presented at the trial, but I do know that her family has appeared on TV before and talked about some of the abuse she is alleged to have gone through.  I went on the basis of assuming for purposes of discussion that even if it was true, it still didn&#8217;t justify murder and subsequently only seven months in police custody.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/08/15/why-is-mary-winkler-free/comment-page-1/#comment-716284</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ST,

Do you know what evidence was introduced at the trial to demonstrate how abusive the husband was?

And by the way, no, I certainly do NOT approve of the &quot;she deserved it&quot; excuse in rape trials.


:-?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ST,</p>
<p>Do you know what evidence was introduced at the trial to demonstrate how abusive the husband was?</p>
<p>And by the way, no, I certainly do NOT approve of the &#8220;she deserved it&#8221; excuse in rape trials.</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems she was the control freak Steve.... they probably both were abusive to each other. 

My ex-wife in order to get me &quot;see&quot; her convoluted point of view would hold a knife to her chest. 

Control freaks come in all shapes and sizes and genders.

She played that jury like a drum...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems she was the control freak Steve&#8230;. they probably both were abusive to each other. </p>
<p>My ex-wife in order to get me &#8220;see&#8221; her convoluted point of view would hold a knife to her chest. </p>
<p>Control freaks come in all shapes and sizes and genders.</p>
<p>She played that jury like a drum&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Skubinna</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/08/15/why-is-mary-winkler-free/comment-page-1/#comment-716240</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Skubinna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious - is there any evidence that the husband actually was abusive, aside from the self interested testimony by his murderer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious &#8211; is there any evidence that the husband actually was abusive, aside from the self interested testimony by his murderer?</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/08/15/why-is-mary-winkler-free/comment-page-1/#comment-716229</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t shoot your husband if he is abusive, you divorce him.

Mary broke one of the most important rules of weapons. Don&#039;t point a weapon at anything that you don&#039;t have an intention of shooting. She ADMITTED pointing it at him just to try to get him (control freakish) to talk something over.

Maybe she realized at that point he would GET THE KIDS because of of her actions. In the divorce process this information would come out and she would be deemed unfit to be a mom much more than supervised visits....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t shoot your husband if he is abusive, you divorce him.</p>
<p>Mary broke one of the most important rules of weapons. Don&#8217;t point a weapon at anything that you don&#8217;t have an intention of shooting. She ADMITTED pointing it at him just to try to get him (control freakish) to talk something over.</p>
<p>Maybe she realized at that point he would GET THE KIDS because of of her actions. In the divorce process this information would come out and she would be deemed unfit to be a mom much more than supervised visits&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/08/15/why-is-mary-winkler-free/comment-page-1/#comment-716228</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leslie, essentially this was a &quot;he deserved it sentence&quot; and even if you never hear of a case of a man shooting a woman due to similar circumstances, you know there have been rape cases out there where a defense attorneys use the &#039;she deserved it&#039; defense, talking about the woman&#039;s sex life, how much she was drinking, how she was dressed, as if that&#039;s somehow supposed to excuse the crime.  The &#039;she deserved it&#039; defense almost never works in a rape case, and the &#039;he deserved it&#039; defense shouldn&#039;t have worked here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leslie, essentially this was a &#8220;he deserved it sentence&#8221; and even if you never hear of a case of a man shooting a woman due to similar circumstances, you know there have been rape cases out there where a defense attorneys use the &#8217;she deserved it&#8217; defense, talking about the woman&#8217;s sex life, how much she was drinking, how she was dressed, as if that&#8217;s somehow supposed to excuse the crime.  The &#8217;she deserved it&#8217; defense almost never works in a rape case, and the &#8216;he deserved it&#8217; defense shouldn&#8217;t have worked here.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/08/15/why-is-mary-winkler-free/comment-page-1/#comment-716222</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite frankly (and this is without hearing any of the testimony at the trial), this sentence strikes me as appropriate.

When there&#039;s a case when a man shoots an abusive wife under these same conditions, let me know and we can revisit this.

I&#039;m not holding my breath.

8-&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite frankly (and this is without hearing any of the testimony at the trial), this sentence strikes me as appropriate.</p>
<p>When there&#8217;s a case when a man shoots an abusive wife under these same conditions, let me know and we can revisit this.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not holding my breath.</p>
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