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benning says:

October 4, 2007 at 2:01 pm

Whoopi grows more disgusting as time passes. She is truly clueless. Nasty, too.
NC Cop says:

October 4, 2007 at 3:36 pm

GOLDBERG: Okay, then back off a little bit. Back off a little bit. Very few people want to have abortions.

Ahh, the classic liberal “You have free speech, but don’t say anything I don’t agree with!” attitude.

YAWN!
Severian says:

October 4, 2007 at 4:10 pm

Whoopi Goldberg, yet another reason ST:TOS is better than ST:TNG. :d
G-Monster says:

October 4, 2007 at 4:55 pm

Can’t stand Whoopi, agree with all of ST’s comments, but I have to acknowledge that Whoopi does score a few points bringing to light that the reason to make them legal is to avoid back alley abortions.

I’m not a strong advocate on either side of this, but am definitely opposed to mid term, late term and partial birth abortions, and would like to see calm responses to Whoopi’s argument in my first paragraph.

Please don’t direct your hostilities at me, I’m not trying to take anything away from ST’s post, just trying to see if Whoopi’s back alley abortion argument holds up.
Karl says:

October 4, 2007 at 5:13 pm

I will save my reverence for people like Gianna Jessen
Great White Rat says:

October 4, 2007 at 6:50 pm

Karl, that’s powerful. Thanks for pointing us to that story.
Jamelle says:

October 5, 2007 at 12:33 am

I don’t want to get into an argument about the morality of abortion, because I know that neither of us will budge.

But I will say, that I think it’s unfair to characterize Goldberg as having said something beyond the pale. Abortion isn’t an easy decision and whether you like it or not, there are occasions when it is necessary, and instead of demonizing women who make that choice, it’s in the best interest of our society to offer our support.
David L says:

October 5, 2007 at 8:45 am

If as the radicai feminists, like Kate Michelman, insist that the fetus is noting but a clump of cells no more signficant than say a tumor, then abortion can not be a horrific choice.

On the the hand, if as Goldberg asserts that a the decision to have an abortion is an horrific one, then the preborn human must have value. If the unborn has value, then he is worthy of protection.

Goldberg deson’t have the ability to realize it, but she is closer to the pro-life position than she realizes. If a unborn has value, then why kill him?
Severian says:

October 5, 2007 at 8:57 am

Goldberg deson’t have the ability to realize it, but she is closer to the pro-life position than she realizes. If a unborn has value, then why kill him?

Actually, she’s not. It’s not that it’s a hard decision to kill an unborn child she’s on about, it’s about granting victimhood to the woman who had an abortion. It’s all about victimhood to the liberal mind these days. Pity the poor woman, not the unborn child. She had an abortion, so now she’s a victim deserving of pity and “the ultimate moral authority card.”
Cindy M says:

October 5, 2007 at 11:20 am

:-w
I am very disappointed. I had hoped that you were the type of woman who would see both sides of a situation.

You cannot understand how deep the sorrow a woman feels after she’s had an abortion. This is not a careless and cold decision. It is a not to be forgotten option that a woman choses. Do you understand? It is an option – available to women and only to women because we are the people of this world who bring forth new life on the planet. If a woman choses to have an abortion she should be allowed the grace and respect for her choice, not a violation of her privacy with your condemnation.

Your blog – you equate it to a baby and how well you take care of it – *COUGH – COUGH* – you are truly sad in life if this is how you view a child.

I am removing your site from my list of favorites.
NC Cop says:

October 5, 2007 at 11:35 am

I had hoped that you were the type of woman who would see both sides of a situation.

So in other words, Cindy, since she doesn’t agree with you she is “truly sad in life”? I believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion about this topic. Just because she doesn’t share the same opinion as you is no reason to be upset. Many of us on this site do not agree when it comes to some things, that’s just the way life is.

If you are going to limit yourself to people who only think the same way you do then I feel you are truly sad.

I am removing your site from my list of favorites.

Somehow we’ll manage to go on.
Severian says:

October 5, 2007 at 12:26 pm

You cannot understand how deep the sorrow a woman feels after she’s had an abortion.

Hmmm…the baby undoubtedly wouldn’t be feeling much though. 8-|

Do you understand? It is an option – available to women and only to women because we are the people of this world who bring forth new life on the planet.

When you decide not to kill them instead eh?

:-w
TheBrainGuy says:

October 5, 2007 at 12:49 pm

Hey Whoopi: Have you ever been a man?

Oh boy ST, this one just offers too many temptations to a smart-aleck like me…. >:)
Cindy M says:

October 5, 2007 at 12:55 pm

IS THERE ANYONE PAYING ATTENTION?

HOW CAN A WOMAN TRY TO DENY ANOTHER WOMAN’S RIGHTS?

DO YOU ALL WANT TO LOSE THIS RIGHT? ARE YOU REALLY WILLING TO TAKE A STEP BACKWARDS? CLOSER TO THE TIME WHEN WE DIDN’T HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE…TO OWN PROPERTY!

DO YOU WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU SHOULD DO WITH YOUR BODY? WHY WOULD YOU ALLOW YOUR RIGHT TO BE PUT INTO JEOPARDY?

OBVIOUSLY, YOU NEED TO OPEN YOUR HEARTS AND FEEL COMPASSION TOWARDS OTHER WOMEN…WOMEN WHO HAVE MADE THAT DECISION…AND UNDERSTAND THE DAY AFTER IS NOT A GOOD DAY NOR IS THE DAY AFTER THAT OR THE DAY AFTER THAT.

AND I’LL SAY THIS AGAIN – IT IS TRULY SAD TO EQUATE A WEBSITE WITH A CHILD! THERE WAS NO ATTACK IN THAT REMARK…IT WAS SAID WITH CONCERN AND COMPASSION.

ATTACK ME IF YOU WILL, BUT YOU MISSED THE FINAL POINT – I EXERCISED MY RIGHT – MY CHOICE – MY VOICE – MY OPINION TO DELETE A SITE THAT DOESN’T SUPPORT WOMEN!

STAND UP AND SAY “HELL YEAH” BECAUSE WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY WHAT WE FEEL!
Sister Toldjah says:

October 5, 2007 at 2:58 pm

Uh, Cindy, if you supposedly deleted me out of your “favorites” (and I strongly doubt I was ever in your “favorites” because my opinion on abortion is not exactly a secret) then why are you back?

Do you know how unhinged you look typing in all caps? You do know that typing in all caps is considered yelling, right?

As I expected, the point I made about how Whoopi’s assertion (and that of other feminists) that having an abortion is a “horrible decision to make” is at odds with the other feminist assertion that the baby is just a “blob of tissue” went right over the heads of both you and Jamelle. If it’s considered just a “blob of tissue,” then aborting it shouldn’t be a “horrible decision to make,” should it?

When you’re ready to actually think about your position, rather than spout of NOW talking points, let me know.

As for the assertion about me “not being able to see both sides of the issue” – well, that clearly proves that you’re lying when you say that I was in your “favorites” because I’ve written at this blog before (and regular readers know this) that I used to be on the other side of the aisle on this issue, but I woke up and had a change of heart. I know all the typical feminist arguments made in favor of abortion because *I* used to make them.
NC Cop says:

October 5, 2007 at 3:12 pm

ATTACK ME IF YOU WILL, BUT YOU MISSED THE FINAL POINT

As you seem to have missed everyone else’s point, but no big surprise there. I have just as much right to feel compassion toward unborn babies who are killed as you do toward their mothers. Nobody said the mother’s were bad people, it’s just that some of us choose to associate with the innocent child rather than the mother.

STAND UP AND SAY “HELL YEAH” BECAUSE WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY WHAT WE FEEL!

Indeed you do, just as much right as we do to express ourselves. Cindy, you seem to be exhibiting the classic signs of liberalism. You scream about your right to say whatever you want, and then degrade those that do the same, just because they don’t agree with you.

As S.T. said, if she was truly on your favorites list you would have known this as her opinion on the subject is no secret.

Finally, may I say, there are just as many decaf brand on the markets that are just as tasty as the real thing.
TedintheShed says:

October 5, 2007 at 3:18 pm

Abortion, war and the death penalty.

All are legalized murder.

The juxtaposition of those topics fascinates me.
PCD says:

October 5, 2007 at 3:36 pm

10,14, Cindy, I really think you aren’t honest with us. If you are at all talking about life and rights, why doesn’t your baby have any rights? Are you that unfeeling, callous, if not fascist in that denial?

The sacrament of Liberalism and Feminism is abortion. We who oppose abortion are in opposition to these two religions.
Great White Rat says:

October 5, 2007 at 4:07 pm

If it’s considered just a “blob of tissue” then aborting it shouldn’t be a “horrible decision to make” should it?

Exactly. Cindy, the only way you could be taken seriously is if you also feel that cutting out a cancer or a hemmorhoid is a tough, emotionally draining decision.

If you do, then I think we’re on firm ground in questioning your mental stability. So I’m assuming you do not.

But if you do not, think about why that is. The answer’s unavoidable: somewhere deep down inside, your conscience is telling you that this is a human life you are terminating, and your sense of what’s right and what’s wrong refuses to sit down and shut up. Even if you use all caps telling it to.

So this isn’t about a woman’s “rights”. Not unless you honestly believe snuffing out another human life is somehow an inalienable “right”. And we’ve already seen where such lack of compassion and respect for life leads us. Once you accept that life is as disposable as a used Kleenex, it’s a small matter to move to partial birth abortion. Or to killing fully delivered babies with birth defects. Or to advocating euthanizing people as they get older if they become a burden. It’s the same mindset. This doesn’t appear to be about “rights” for you, it’s about convenience.
Severian says:

October 5, 2007 at 4:26 pm

Finally, may I say, there are just as many decaf brand on the markets that are just as tasty as the real thing.

=))
Severian says:

October 5, 2007 at 5:48 pm

IS THERE ANYONE PAYING ATTENTION?

HOW CAN A WOMAN TRY TO DENY ANOTHER WOMAN’S RIGHTS?

Is there anyone paying attention?

How can a woman (you know, those “lifegivers” you talk about) try to deny a baby’s rights?!?

Jeez, get a grip. The problem is that you not only want “understanding” for women who abort their children, you want them freed from any responsibility for their actions, honored even.

Sorry, not going to play that game. I’m not even in favor of denying abortion “rights” and I think you’re a nutjob.
sanity says:

October 5, 2007 at 6:16 pm

Children are precious.

I cannot look at mine and think that we would ever consider aborting the children my wife and I have together. I cannot. It is the strongest emotion that floods me with grief to think how easiy people make it to snuff out the life of a baby….and not because of a mother life is in jeopardy.

I really wish i could win the lottery, because i would adopt as many as I could and provide as best as I could for them.

The sad thing is, the US has more ‘mass graves’ of babies killed in the legal, but immoral abortion than Saddam had of the mass graves in Iraq.

I hesitated in repsonding to this, I am just a simple man, and I have not had to go through an abortion or live with what happens afterwards. But I have weeped with my wife, and just thinking of this makes me type through tears that roll down my face….when my wife lost one of our children she was pregnant with to a miscarriage. No, the pregnancy was not far along, but the baby was there, we knew it, and already explored names….

Lump of tissue my ass.
Those that believe such nonsense should have thier heads examined for brain damage or excessive stupidity.

This is a very strong and emotional topic for me, my kids are my life, and to think someone would want to snuff out that life, it physically makes me sick.

It sickens me further knowing people can see arms and legs, see movement in the womb, see kicking in the womb, ect and still want to kill thier baby.

It makes no sense to me, and personally, if I would have to choose between my life or that of my baby, I would choose my baby to live – there would be no hesitation in my decision. None at all.

Suffer not the children for they are life and they are the innocent.

Now you will have to excuse me, my two bundles of non-aborted joy are playing with stamper and stamp pad…..and covered in stamps.

Bath time.
Steve Skubinna says:

October 6, 2007 at 10:00 am

Cindy, you have no moral authority here. Go get yourself aborted and then get back to us.

I actually was once told by a woman that I, being a man, had no business even having an opinion on abortion. Odd, I would have though that having once been a fetus I could bring something to the table but apparently not. Somewhere along the line I missed the part about how I must allow others to determine what I am entitled to believe. So help me out here, please post a list of every opinion you require me to have. Maybe I’ll run out of toilet paper.

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