case closed except to a liberal…

I DID find a video where a guy (MAF) and a girl(pink) are arguing about who punched who first. Both look unbruised, and not in full ‘riot’ mode.

Jim B. If legal actions are proceeding, and the court documents include descriptions of vicious attacks, then yes, that would be the ‘riot’ proof I am searching for.

GWR: I was going to stick primarily to this instance… but since you brought up Abortion clinics. Pro-Life protestors do have the right to protest outside of clinics. I have no problem with this. Until doctors started being killed, and that changes everything.

When protesters start using intense threats or violence clearly they should be cleared farther away to protect the workers. For example: Between 2000-2004 there have been no murders, but there were 15 arsons/bombings. There were over 1,000 burglaries/assault&battery/invasions/(and/or) death threats. Over 10,000 picketings PER YEAR. We’re talking an entirely different magnitude here.

Fortunately, the marines groups do not appear to be in any danger of invasions/arsons/death threats at the present time. If bomb threats become an issue, the city should then cordon off code pink as they do with pro-life protesters.

Finally, there is one last thing. I did see that they blocked off the entrance to the recruiting station. That’s something I don’t agree with, and I would like to have seen those protesters arrested.

If this were a group of pro-life people picketing peacefully in front of an abortion clinic, alchemist and his ilk would be shrieking about intimidation and civil rights violations and demand that they all be locked up posthaste. No evidence of injuries or physical damage would be necessary. Their mere presence would be evidence of civil rights violations. The law would be expected to respond at once.

But when it’s a mob of violent pro-communists who deliberately cross the street to incite a physical confrontation – well, that’s another story. Suddenly the standard changes – now alchemist wants to see hospital bills or else nothing happened, and law enforcement really ought to look the other way. No blood, no foul is his standard in this case.

Yes, that’s the stench of leftist double standards in the air, folks. Free speech for them, but not for anyone else.

That isn’t the court room standard. An assault doesn’t necessarily mean injury. Injury just makes the award different.

alchemist twists things, “Now, if Code Pink were threatening marines in a way that made recruiters (and/or MAF members) fear for their life ”

That isn’t the issue. The marines should be able to go about their business. Blockading or banning is wrong.

That doesn’t mean that it didn’t happen, just that I can’t find detailed evidence of such.

If, on the other hand, it was just a really big shouting match (or the ripping of posters, or leaving street areas to shout in the MAF space), this is definitely silly juvenile behavior and probably could be enforced as a misdemeanor, which probably wouldn’t stand up in court anyway.

Now, if Code Pink were threatening marines in a way that made recruiters (and/or MAF members) fear for their life (or being tracked and beaten a la 60’s civil rights movement) then I would believe that a civil rights violation should be given to code pink. Again, until I see more evidence (a video of the event, or a better detailed description, a victim (?) ) I’m going to assume this didn’t happen.

Must remember to read before clicking…

The leftists decided to get violent (no big surprise there) and the police refused protection for the people being assaulted, even hanging up the phone when help was being requested. If the police know there is an assault happening and intentionally, you can make a damn good case that they are complicit in violating the civil rights of the MAF people.

“Oh goodness! We never meant to offend anybody!”

Yes the hell they did. They offered a series of calculated insults to the Marines – not to George Bush, not in protest of the war, but directed at these individual Marines in their city. They were preaching to the choir, and to their discomfort found that many others heard their message and vehemently disapproved. As I have said before, the greatets complaint these people have is that their words are quoted in context.

And I shouldn’t have called the city council members useless whores – they have taken the mask from the self loathing spiteful left and shown us once again what kinds of people they really are. So they actually have performed a useful service. And perhaps calling them whores was harsh as well – it insults hardworking prostitutes, who whatever one thinks of their profession, provide a service.

I agree that code pink is a very silly organization, and not well mentally organized, but I’m not sure I’ve seen anything that constitutes civil rights infringement.

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If blacks in Selma were treated like this city treats Move America Forward and the US Marines, there would be a major “dust-up” probably involving Federal Marshalls and perhaps National Guard. The governor should intervene.

That probably won’t happen. In which case their abuse of power is grounds for Civil Rights action on the part of the US Attorney General (Move America Forward should start with complaints there). And if they can substantiate the police hanging up part of their calls for help … which 911 records can verify … they need to sue the police department and the city for Civil Rights violations. I am thinking the cash value of the damage should at least equal the amount of Federal Funds Senator DeMint (thank you Senator) was working to take away.

It’s time to grow legal teeth.