Comments on: The Che flag controversy: How would JFK have reacted? (MORE: OBAMA USING LINES FROM DEVAL PATRICK’S SPEECHES) http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/02/18/the-che-flag-controversy-how-would-jfk-have-reacted/ Don't dis or dismiss this miss! Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:23:12 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Steve Skubinna http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/02/18/the-che-flag-controversy-how-would-jfk-have-reacted/comment-page-1/#comment-735342 Steve Skubinna Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:05:16 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/02/18/the-che-flag-controversy-how-would-jfk-have-reacted/#comment-735342 So he makes a point of not wearing a US flag lapel pin because he's more patriotic than the guys who do wear them, plus they're hypocrites for wearing them. A Che imprinted Cuban flag is no big deal until he gets called on it, then it's, ummm, "inappropriate?" I really don't understand the symbology at work here. The symbols mean something or they don't, you can't pick and choose and mix them up day to day for whatever advantage you want to grab... oh, stupid me. Of course you can. This is politics. Myself, I don't really care. I don't wear a flag pin myself, but then again I haven't publicly worn one then later removed it and made some bogus claim that it's removal had a significant point. It's the situtational ethics at work here that disturb me, coming from a guy who's supposed to be more pure than Ivory Soap. And that's not some racial metaphor, so don't even try it. So he makes a point of not wearing a US flag lapel pin because he’s more patriotic than the guys who do wear them, plus they’re hypocrites for wearing them. A Che imprinted Cuban flag is no big deal until he gets called on it, then it’s, ummm, “inappropriate?”

I really don’t understand the symbology at work here. The symbols mean something or they don’t, you can’t pick and choose and mix them up day to day for whatever advantage you want to grab… oh, stupid me. Of course you can. This is politics.

Myself, I don’t really care. I don’t wear a flag pin myself, but then again I haven’t publicly worn one then later removed it and made some bogus claim that it’s removal had a significant point. It’s the situtational ethics at work here that disturb me, coming from a guy who’s supposed to be more pure than Ivory Soap.

And that’s not some racial metaphor, so don’t even try it.

]]> By: UrbanGrounds » Blog Archive » Castro Resigns as President Dictator of Cuba — So What? http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/02/18/the-che-flag-controversy-how-would-jfk-have-reacted/comment-page-1/#comment-735234 UrbanGrounds » Blog Archive » Castro Resigns as President Dictator of Cuba — So What? Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:51:52 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/02/18/the-che-flag-controversy-how-would-jfk-have-reacted/#comment-735234 [...] Sister Toldjah: While I'm sure this means that the pro-Castro community in Hollywood will be put on suicide watch, there's no word yet of the reaction from Barack Obama's Houston HQ. [...] [...] Sister Toldjah: While I’m sure this means that the pro-Castro community in Hollywood will be put on suicide watch, there’s no word yet of the reaction from Barack Obama’s Houston HQ. [...]

]]> By: Great White Rat http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/02/18/the-che-flag-controversy-how-would-jfk-have-reacted/comment-page-1/#comment-735192 Great White Rat Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:27:18 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/02/18/the-che-flag-controversy-how-would-jfk-have-reacted/#comment-735192 The plagiarism accusation is paper-thin and will blow over in a week. One of Obama's key lieutenants also served on the Deval Patrick campaign, so you have to expect some similarities or even word-for-word transcriptions. Probably, Obama should have credited Patrick for the lines. My guess is that it's a sign of desperation setting in at the Clinton campaign. It certainly isn't going to change the primary votes of the far-left contingent that's the backbone of Obama's support. The amusing part is the knee-jerk response from the Obama camp accusing Hillary of doing the same thing. Childish and silly, but remember, they ARE courting Dem voters here, so that's to be expected. And as far as "yes we can" is concerned, you can make a good case that Obama borrowed that phrase from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%AD_se_puede" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>Cesar Chavez</strong></a>. The plagiarism accusation is paper-thin and will blow over in a week. One of Obama’s key lieutenants also served on the Deval Patrick campaign, so you have to expect some similarities or even word-for-word transcriptions. Probably, Obama should have credited Patrick for the lines. My guess is that it’s a sign of desperation setting in at the Clinton campaign. It certainly isn’t going to change the primary votes of the far-left contingent that’s the backbone of Obama’s support.

The amusing part is the knee-jerk response from the Obama camp accusing Hillary of doing the same thing. Childish and silly, but remember, they ARE courting Dem voters here, so that’s to be expected.

And as far as “yes we can” is concerned, you can make a good case that Obama borrowed that phrase from Cesar Chavez.

]]> By: This ain’t Hell, but you can see it from here » Drivel roundup http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/02/18/the-che-flag-controversy-how-would-jfk-have-reacted/comment-page-1/#comment-735176 This ain’t Hell, but you can see it from here » Drivel roundup Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:57:42 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/02/18/the-che-flag-controversy-how-would-jfk-have-reacted/#comment-735176 [...] Sister Toldjah has all the relevant links for Obama/Che flag controversy. Spree writes that McCain leads Clinton and Obama in Florida. This could get interesting. [...] [...] Sister Toldjah has all the relevant links for Obama/Che flag controversy. Spree writes that McCain leads Clinton and Obama in Florida. This could get interesting. [...]

]]> By: Obama is a Plagiarist « Wayward Fundamentalist Christian http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/02/18/the-che-flag-controversy-how-would-jfk-have-reacted/comment-page-1/#comment-735158 Obama is a Plagiarist « Wayward Fundamentalist Christian Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:44:50 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/02/18/the-che-flag-controversy-how-would-jfk-have-reacted/#comment-735158 [...] Others: The Moderate Voice, Ben Smith’s Blogs, The Swamp, Lynn Sweet, The Politico, TIME, Taylor Marsh, Weekly Standard, The Trail, Wonkette, Channel ‘08, American Spectator, All Politics, Don Surber, MSNBC, Confederate Yankee, Hot Air, Jules Crittenden, A Chequer-Board of Nights …, Big Head DC, Flopping Aces, TownHall Blog, Faithful Progressive, Sister Toldjah and The Ruckus and more via Memeorandum [...] [...] Others: The Moderate Voice, Ben Smith’s Blogs, The Swamp, Lynn Sweet, The Politico, TIME, Taylor Marsh, Weekly Standard, The Trail, Wonkette, Channel ‘08, American Spectator, All Politics, Don Surber, MSNBC, Confederate Yankee, Hot Air, Jules Crittenden, A Chequer-Board of Nights …, Big Head DC, Flopping Aces, TownHall Blog, Faithful Progressive, Sister Toldjah and The Ruckus and more via Memeorandum [...]

]]> By: Tom TB http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/02/18/the-che-flag-controversy-how-would-jfk-have-reacted/comment-page-1/#comment-735156 Tom TB Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:52:04 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/02/18/the-che-flag-controversy-how-would-jfk-have-reacted/#comment-735156 ST, good topics for "President's Day". I don't understand how the left can wear or display an Ernesto "Che" Guevara likeness and claim they are against the very things he was for: Death penalties without appeals, incarceration of homosexuals, absolute control of public assembly, speech, the press, the airwaves and an apartheid system where we are all equal, comrades, but some of us are sooo much more equal than others, and the total ban of Rock music! Now where they would agree: In the Cuban "Socialist Paradise" abortions are beyond legal, they are often encouraged or mandated, and there is absolute gun control, unless you are a fidelista! ST, good topics for “President’s Day”. I don’t understand how the left can wear or display an Ernesto “Che” Guevara likeness and claim they are against the very things he was for: Death penalties without appeals, incarceration of homosexuals, absolute control of public assembly, speech, the press, the airwaves and an apartheid system where we are all equal, comrades, but some of us are sooo much more equal than others, and the total ban of Rock music! Now where they would agree: In the Cuban “Socialist Paradise” abortions are beyond legal, they are often encouraged or mandated, and there is absolute gun control, unless you are a fidelista!

]]> By: William Teach http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/02/18/the-che-flag-controversy-how-would-jfk-have-reacted/comment-page-1/#comment-735148 William Teach Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:38:01 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/02/18/the-che-flag-controversy-how-would-jfk-have-reacted/#comment-735148 Obama whines about this issue to Time, accusing Hillary of stealing his lines: <a href="http://thepage.time.com/obama-release-on-clintons-languge/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>LINK</strong></a> Because no one has ever used the phrase "yes, we can" before.:d Obama whines about this issue to Time, accusing Hillary of stealing his lines: LINK

Because no one has ever used the phrase “yes, we can” before.:d

]]> By: Baklava http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/02/18/the-che-flag-controversy-how-would-jfk-have-reacted/comment-page-1/#comment-735141 Baklava Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:45:13 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/02/18/the-che-flag-controversy-how-would-jfk-have-reacted/#comment-735141 Reagan's <strong><a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/17/weare-americans/" rel="nofollow">response to Obama</a></strong>. :)>- Reagan’s response to Obama. :)>-

]]> By: Neocon News » Obama still lacks substance, but what he does offer… whew. http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/02/18/the-che-flag-controversy-how-would-jfk-have-reacted/comment-page-1/#comment-735131 Neocon News » Obama still lacks substance, but what he does offer… whew. Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:22:40 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/02/18/the-che-flag-controversy-how-would-jfk-have-reacted/#comment-735131 [...] Sister Toldjah wonders how JFK might have responded to that Che flag flap. [...] [...] Sister Toldjah wonders how JFK might have responded to that Che flag flap. [...]

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