some ill-considered rhetoric

Yeah that’s it. It isn’t perpetuating hate and pandering to that same emotion in the hopes of getting more in the offering plates. Noooooo. It is that same pandering that helps to keep this community in this attitude. Nope, It is all just rhetoric. God the depths you people will go to make excuses for your side. Perhaps you can show me where Christ said that it was all whities fault?? That’s the same attitude that will eventually lead people to anti-semitism.

Also, what about this typical white person line of BO. Talk about painting with the broad brush of racism. I guess I am just to typical to understand the nuances of the latest Democratic presidential nominee. – Lorica

So did the preacher say something that I haven’t heard, a demeaning sexual racial slur directed at whites comparable to “nappy-headed ‘ho’s?”

My goodness no, nothing quite that offensive. He only said that 9/11 was the United States fault, God Damn America, and equated the U.S. to Al Qaesa, that’s all. I’m afraid it was nowhere near as offensive as the term “Nappy Headed Ho’s”.

Life’s not safe for a black man in this country, Barack. Never has been. Probably never will be.”

White supremacy controls the economic system in America, the healthcare system in America and the educational system in America. Hurricane Katrina has pulled the blinders off of all Americans and shown us what white supremacy means at its ugly core and what it has done to the fabric of these “still-yet-to-be-United States”

Fact number seven: we do not care if poor black and brown children cannot read and kill each other senselessly.

Fact number eight: we started the AIDS virus, and now that it is out of control we still put more money in the military than in medicine. More money in hate than humanitarian concerns.

But at least he hasn’t called anyone “Nappy Headed Ho’s” for surely THAT would be racist.

Or are you simply arguing that all statements that somebody “doesn’t agree with” are equivalent?

I’m arguing that Obama’s mentor and moral compass is a hate monger. A man who preaches hate and educates hate. Yet Obama is “offended” by Imus statements?

Pathetic.

Trrll, he is a preacher, by his own oath he is suppose to be above this sort of thing. Are you comparing Wright’s code of ethics, to Imus’???

I am shocked, shocked, to learn that some preachers do not live up to the standard of Jesus Christ.

And no, I don’t think there is any reasonable comparison to be made between the use of a sexually demeaning racially-based slur by a “shock jock” who makes money primarily based on a reputation for saying outrageous things on the air and a minister with a long record of community service who used some ill-considered rhetoric in expressing sentiments held by much of his community regarding the long history of repression of black Americans.

Is that Obamas idea of open dialogue? Say something that he doesn’t agree with and you should be fired? That will sure get people to speak honestly about race.

So did the preacher say something that I haven’t heard, a demeaning sexual racial slur directed at whites comparable to “nappy-headed ‘ho’s?” Or are you simply arguing that all statements that somebody “doesn’t agree with” are equivalent?

He doesn’t plan to leave the church, or demand that Reverend Wright do so.

And yet he demanded that Imus be fired. I believe that’s called hypocrisy.

Is that Obamas idea of open dialogue? Say something that he doesn’t agree with and you should be fired? That will sure get people to speak honestly about race.

He certainly has acknowledged that this is not the first time he has heard the Reverend express views that he disagrees with.

Not Orignally. – Lorica

Can you imagine anyone of the people tried at Nuremburg for war crimes coming up with that defense, and it actually working? That passes the smell test just as much as Barry’s “I never heard him say those racist things” does. Some things are so ludicrous only a true kool-aid drinker can believe them.

How, specifically, is this a “defense?” He certainly has acknowledged that this is not the first time he has heard the Reverend express views that he disagrees with. Is he saying that now that he has heard those words, he is going to do something that he would have done previously if he had heard those words? He doesn’t plan to leave the church, or demand that Reverend Wright do so. He says that he disagrees with some of the Reverend’s attitudes and rhetoric, but respects the man for his achievements and his character. Would the decision to stay with the church in spite of the Reverend’s rhetoric somehow be more meritorious if he had had made the same decision earlier?

I have brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, uncles and cousins, of every race and every hue, scattered across three continents, and for as long as I live, I will never forget that in no other country on Earth is my story even possible.

All very true, and very inspiring. In fact, you’d think that would be enough to make a person proud of America, wouldn’t you? You know, to do things like proudly salute the flag, show respect during the national anthem, and not associate with racist pastors. So why isn’t that true in Obama’s case? I can think of a volume of possible reasons, none of which reflect well on the Senator.

On the other end, we’ve heard my former pastor, Reverend Jeremiah Wright, use incendiary language to express views that have the potential not only to widen the racial divide

Former pastor? Former since when? Since all hell broke loose over Wright’s hateful tirades?

And you gotta love the understatement here. Wright’s language has the “potential” to widen the racial divide. REALLY, Sherlock? Is Obama saying there’s some chance Wright’s invectives will NOT widen the racial divide?

I have already condemned, in unequivocal terms, the statements of Reverend Wright that have caused such controversy. For some, nagging questions remain. Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes. Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely

Did I ever express this disagreement openly before Wright’s ugly rants became public? Well, no….

they expressed a profoundly distorted view of this country – a view that sees white racism as endemic, and that elevates what is wrong with America above all that we know is right with America; a view that sees the conflicts in the Middle East as rooted primarily in the actions of stalwart allies like Israel, instead of emanating from the perverse and hateful ideologies of radical Islam.

Whoa….what?? Sister Toldjah could have written that part. How did that slip in there? Especially those last two words. Anyone else ever hear Obama refer to “radical Islam” before? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Or do you think Obama is finally waking up to the fact that radical Islam exists – a fact that even the least politically knowledgable have understood since a clear September morning six and a half years ago.

My guess: this is a one-time insertion designed to separate him from Wright on this one detail. Don’t expect to hear it again, especially during the remaining primaries. Too many hard-left Democrats frankly agree with Wright – America and Israel are the bad guys, and the Islamofascists not so bad – and Obama won’t want to alienate them while he still needs their delegates.

As such, Reverend Wright’s comments were not only wrong but divisive, divisive at a time when we need unity; racially charged at a time when we need to come together to solve a set of monumental problems – two wars, a terrorist threat, a falling economy, a chronic health care crisis and potentially devastating climate change; problems that are neither black or white or Latino or Asian, but rather problems that confront us all.

Translation: I’m about to change the subject. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

But the truth is, that isn’t all that I know of the man. The man I met more than twenty years ago is a man who helped introduce me to my Christian faith,

OK, someone help me here. I can’t find anything in the New Testament that says violent, hateful racism is compatible with the teachings of Christ. If anyone has a passage that proves otherwise, please set me straight.

who for over thirty years led a church that serves the community by doing God’s work here on Earth – by housing the homeless, ministering to the needy, providing day care services and scholarships and prison ministries, and reaching out to those suffering from HIV/AIDS.

So…if you do these other things, then you get a pass for racism? Bulletin for the good Senator: my church does the same things. But if one of my pastors got up and spewed the same sort of venom that Wright does, I’d be out of there before the sermon ended and would never return. I wouldn’t mull it over for 20 years.

But, to the left, a lot of evil can be overlooked if you provide day care, among other things. There’s a striking similarity between those Obama remarks and these:

“He’s been out in these countries for decades, building schools, building roads, building infrastructure, building day-care facilities, building health-care facilities, and the people are extremely grateful. He’s made their lives better. We have not done that.”

Who said it? Washington state’s dimwitted Senator Patty Murray. Who was she talking about and making excuses for? Osama bin Laden.

Not once in my conversations with him have I heard him talk about any ethnic group in derogatory terms, or treat whites with whom he interacted with anything but courtesy and respect.

So he may have said it in public, from the pulpit, but not in a one-on-one with you. Oh, well, I guess everything’s hunky-dory then. How completely Clintonian of you, Senator.

There’s a long section going over the problems of the black community in America – terrible schools, high crime, lack of jobs, among others. All of these are real problems. But Obama gives not a word to the fact that left-wing policies have made each and every one of those problems worse, and in some cases created new problems.

What does he find wrong enough to earn his disapproval? Give a listen:

a corporate culture rife with inside dealing, questionable accounting practices, and short-term greed; a Washington dominated by lobbyists and special interests; economic policies that favor the few over the many.

So we have the most left-wing, partisan Democrat in the Senate beating up on the free enterprise system and the eeevil rich. Yawn…and here I thought his candidacy was supposed to be about “change”.

One final item:

The profound mistake of Reverend Wright’s sermons is not that he spoke about racism in our society. It’s that he spoke as if our society was static

No, the profound mistake was not that he spoke about racism…the mistake is that what he speaks is racism. Apparently, after all this, Senator Obama still doesn’t get it.

-Mike Huckabee

What I think he managed to do, by challenging America to discuss these issues intelligently rather than through soundbites, was to get the mediots off their game.

Going in, the media narrative was “in order to win, he has to denounce the reverend” (they were all primed with their nonsensical instapolls that have but one rational response–such as “if your pastor made remarks like that in your church, synagogue, or mosque, would you have walked out?”).

But he didn’t do that, and so the mediots were at first ready to pounce on that, but then either they took a look at the transcript and actually figured out what Obama said, or they started hearing from We the People, and they backed off. In fact, now it appears they don’t know what to think (check Howie Kurtz’s roundup today in the Washington Post).

So, all in all, as I said, Obama wins this round 10-9, but there are many more to go ‘ere we have a decision.

I wonder what would have happened if Barack had engaged his grandmother…

Barack: Gramma, why are you afraid of that man?

Gramma: Because he goes to Rev. Wright’s church, and I believe he hates me because I’m white.

Can you imagine anyone of the people tried at Nuremburg for war crimes coming up with that defense, and it actually working? That passes the smell test just as much as Barry’s “I never heard him say those racist things” does. Some things are so ludicrous only a true kool-aid drinker can believe them.

You can’t hide from the fact that he attended that church for 20 years. Either he completely agrees with the “reverend” in which case he’s a bigot masquerading as a liberal moderate, or he is so cynically power hungry he was willing to be quiet and pretend to agree just to insinuate himself into the black political community there. Neither says anything good about ol’Barry’s ethics or personality.

L.