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	<title>Comments on: Us Magazine losing readers after anti-Palin story</title>
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	<description>Don&#039;t dis or dismiss this miss!</description>
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		<title>By: roy</title>
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		<dc:creator>roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 06:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a humble opinion....but if I ran a successful magazine and enjoyed my yearly Christmas bonus...I would avoid any mention of any political candidate.  The Hollywood and New York crowd are fair game...but its not the best idea to attract negative political attention. 

So I&#039;m betting on a 12,000 total on cancelled subscriptions....with another 12,000 who bought the magazine at the check-out stand.  And figure 300 guys throughout the US who are picking up the cover and turning it around backwards at the checkout stand.  So you toss in another 3,000 who won&#039;t see it and just pass on by.  Thats a fair number of folks to lose to, and you probably won&#039;t make this back up.  

The exec  in charge?  I&#039;m betting they leave by January and take a year off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a humble opinion&#8230;.but if I ran a successful magazine and enjoyed my yearly Christmas bonus&#8230;I would avoid any mention of any political candidate.  The Hollywood and New York crowd are fair game&#8230;but its not the best idea to attract negative political attention. </p>
<p>So I&#8217;m betting on a 12,000 total on cancelled subscriptions&#8230;.with another 12,000 who bought the magazine at the check-out stand.  And figure 300 guys throughout the US who are picking up the cover and turning it around backwards at the checkout stand.  So you toss in another 3,000 who won&#8217;t see it and just pass on by.  Thats a fair number of folks to lose to, and you probably won&#8217;t make this back up.  </p>
<p>The exec  in charge?  I&#8217;m betting they leave by January and take a year off.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slate.com/id/2199492/&amp;GT1=38001&quot; target=&quot;_blan&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whether the [McCain]campaign needs permission to play &quot;Barracuda.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2199492/&#038;GT1=38001" target="_blan" rel="nofollow"><strong>Whether the [McCain]campaign needs permission to play &#8220;Barracuda.&#8221;</strong></a></p>
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		<title>By: Trish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 03:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I don&#039;t like their music, McGehee, I can&#039;t really agree with you on that.  But my point was that, without this brouhaha, nobody would have remembered them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I don&#8217;t like their music, McGehee, I can&#8217;t really agree with you on that.  But my point was that, without this brouhaha, nobody would have remembered them.</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 03:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trish, think of it this way: they&#039;re not getting rich for being stupid, they&#039;re getting rich for making (IMO) great music.

Unless and until they announce from a European stage that they&#039;re ashamed of their president, they haven&#039;t quite equalled the Dixie Chicks.

OTOH, I wasn&#039;t contemplating buying more of their music even before I heard this, so ... easy for me to say, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trish, think of it this way: they&#8217;re not getting rich for being stupid, they&#8217;re getting rich for making (IMO) great music.</p>
<p>Unless and until they announce from a European stage that they&#8217;re ashamed of their president, they haven&#8217;t quite equalled the Dixie Chicks.</p>
<p>OTOH, I wasn&#8217;t contemplating buying more of their music even before I heard this, so &#8230; easy for me to say, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Trish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 03:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the Wall Street Journal, the necessary performance fees were paid.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2008/09/05/mccain-campaign-to-go-heart-less/?mod=homeblogmod_lawblog&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;LINK&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
So the Wilson sisters can, as an ex-boyfriend of mine used to say, go run up a rosebush.
The little hypocrites.  (Democrats in their little nests use this phrase, so why not I and mine?)  They are going to be &quot;good&quot; little PCs, while raking in more money than they&#039;ve probably seen in twenty years.  
I don&#039;t like the song, and would prefer something else--preferably a song not done by Heart, for whom I never cared much.  I never thought their material was very well written.  Pat Benetar would be a much better choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the Wall Street Journal, the necessary performance fees were paid.<br />
<a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2008/09/05/mccain-campaign-to-go-heart-less/?mod=homeblogmod_lawblog" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>LINK</strong></a><br />
So the Wilson sisters can, as an ex-boyfriend of mine used to say, go run up a rosebush.<br />
The little hypocrites.  (Democrats in their little nests use this phrase, so why not I and mine?)  They are going to be &#8220;good&#8221; little PCs, while raking in more money than they&#8217;ve probably seen in twenty years.<br />
I don&#8217;t like the song, and would prefer something else&#8211;preferably a song not done by Heart, for whom I never cared much.  I never thought their material was very well written.  Pat Benetar would be a much better choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Skubinna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Skubinna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 00:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add this to the mix of bemusement: the two members of the band who actually wrote Barracuda are okay with the song being played.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add this to the mix of bemusement: the two members of the band who actually wrote Barracuda are okay with the song being played.</p>
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		<title>By: Trish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way I understand it--and my direct knowledge of the music industry is a few years old--McGehee is right.  Radio stations must pay a fee to such agencies as BMI and ASCAP, and those agencies monitor playlists to determine how royalties should be distributed.  It&#039;s a tad complicated.  I believe that other venues that play music also have to pay a fee to BMI, ASCAP and CAPAC, and perhaps others as well, but I&#039;m not sure where they draw the line.  Playing a homemade mix may well be a copyright violation if it is played in a public venue, whether the CDs were legally purchased or not; I don&#039;t know.  Playing the radio in a public place is always legal, but recording from the radio is not.

If the proper fees have been paid, the Wilson sisters can&#039;t stop anyone from playing their song, no matter how mad it makes them.  What I don&#039;t like is that this will mean more royalties for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I understand it&#8211;and my direct knowledge of the music industry is a few years old&#8211;McGehee is right.  Radio stations must pay a fee to such agencies as BMI and ASCAP, and those agencies monitor playlists to determine how royalties should be distributed.  It&#8217;s a tad complicated.  I believe that other venues that play music also have to pay a fee to BMI, ASCAP and CAPAC, and perhaps others as well, but I&#8217;m not sure where they draw the line.  Playing a homemade mix may well be a copyright violation if it is played in a public venue, whether the CDs were legally purchased or not; I don&#8217;t know.  Playing the radio in a public place is always legal, but recording from the radio is not.</p>
<p>If the proper fees have been paid, the Wilson sisters can&#8217;t stop anyone from playing their song, no matter how mad it makes them.  What I don&#8217;t like is that this will mean more royalties for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony (Los Angeles)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony (Los Angeles)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been reading one the Hillary Clinton forums that&#039;s heavy with PUMA sentiment (Shh! Don&#039;t tell! I&#039;m undercover! b-)  ), and several there said they had already complained to grocery store managers about the US cover and succeeded in getting it removed from the shelves.

Operation Chaos continues. &lt;):)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading one the Hillary Clinton forums that&#8217;s heavy with PUMA sentiment (Shh! Don&#8217;t tell! I&#8217;m undercover! <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_sunglas.gif' alt='&#98;&#45;&#41;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#98;&#45;&#41;' />  ), and several there said they had already complained to grocery store managers about the US cover and succeeded in getting it removed from the shelves.</p>
<p>Operation Chaos continues. <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_cowboy.gif' alt='&#60;&#41;&#58;&#41;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#60;&#41;&#58;&#41;' /></p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;If I buy their CD, it&#039;s now my propertyâ€¦I can play it anywhere I want, and as loud as I want, as long as I&#039;m not violating local public-disturbance laws.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The CD is your property, but its contents remain -- legally at least -- the intellectual property of the copyright owner.

I don&#039;t know for sure whether that can be applied to a song&#039;s use at political events, as long as the party or campaign is making its royalty payments to the appropriate royalty-payment clearinghouse (usually, I believe, BMI or ASCAP), but artists have no qualms about talking to the media as if they can veto such use.

My own comment about earworming &quot;Barracuda&quot; was, of course, entirely satirical.

&lt;b&gt;Disclaimer:&lt;/b&gt; IANAL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>If I buy their CD, it&#8217;s now my propertyâ€¦I can play it anywhere I want, and as loud as I want, as long as I&#8217;m not violating local public-disturbance laws.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The CD is your property, but its contents remain &#8212; legally at least &#8212; the intellectual property of the copyright owner.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know for sure whether that can be applied to a song&#8217;s use at political events, as long as the party or campaign is making its royalty payments to the appropriate royalty-payment clearinghouse (usually, I believe, BMI or ASCAP), but artists have no qualms about talking to the media as if they can veto such use.</p>
<p>My own comment about earworming &#8220;Barracuda&#8221; was, of course, entirely satirical.</p>
<p><b>Disclaimer:</b> IANAL!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much of the print and television news outlets are heading toward becoming obscure, while more honest, even-handed news agencies like Fox, Drudge and the like are becoming more and more mainstream.  All as a result of the aforementioned arrogance of those who run the networks and newspapers.  The New York Times is another example of an incredibly slanted &quot;news&quot; outlet that is losing money and subscribers at a shocking rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much of the print and television news outlets are heading toward becoming obscure, while more honest, even-handed news agencies like Fox, Drudge and the like are becoming more and more mainstream.  All as a result of the aforementioned arrogance of those who run the networks and newspapers.  The New York Times is another example of an incredibly slanted &#8220;news&#8221; outlet that is losing money and subscribers at a shocking rate.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, ST! I, at first, had no real issues with the magazine. Obviously, they&#039;re entitled to put whatever they wanted on the cover; obviously the readers are free to buy the magazine on the newstands or cancel their subscriptions if they don&#039;t like what they&#039;re getting. And the advertisers are free to pull their adverts.

But I am appalled by the arrogance of the editors, who assumed on the basis of nothing, that the Governercuda would vanish from the ticket. (Recall Churchill after Hitler&#039;s failure to ring Britain&#039;s neck like a chicken: &quot;Some chicken; some neck.&quot;)

To GWR: I&#039;m no intellectual property lawyer, but I worked in the book publishing industry and know a bit about the subject since there were times I had to get authors to track down permission to quote from song lyrics, movies, etc. 

&lt;em&gt;Insofar as I know,&lt;/em&gt; yes--you have every right to play your legally purchased CD or legally downloaded iTune whenever and wherever you want, as long as you aren&#039;t in violation of local noise ordinances.

As for stores, bars, dance clubs, etc.: If they&#039;re playing music from a radio or music mixes they have created from their own legally purchased CDs, they should be in the clear, just so long as they are not charging patrons for the &quot;privilege&quot; of listening to the music. In other words, you&#039;re paying for the beer, you&#039;re not paying for the music when you enter the bar. And the same goes for the football game on the bar TV. (Which is why the NFL always puts in that copyright notice during one of the commercials.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, ST! I, at first, had no real issues with the magazine. Obviously, they&#8217;re entitled to put whatever they wanted on the cover; obviously the readers are free to buy the magazine on the newstands or cancel their subscriptions if they don&#8217;t like what they&#8217;re getting. And the advertisers are free to pull their adverts.</p>
<p>But I am appalled by the arrogance of the editors, who assumed on the basis of nothing, that the Governercuda would vanish from the ticket. (Recall Churchill after Hitler&#8217;s failure to ring Britain&#8217;s neck like a chicken: &#8220;Some chicken; some neck.&#8221;)</p>
<p>To GWR: I&#8217;m no intellectual property lawyer, but I worked in the book publishing industry and know a bit about the subject since there were times I had to get authors to track down permission to quote from song lyrics, movies, etc. </p>
<p><em>Insofar as I know,</em> yes&#8211;you have every right to play your legally purchased CD or legally downloaded iTune whenever and wherever you want, as long as you aren&#8217;t in violation of local noise ordinances.</p>
<p>As for stores, bars, dance clubs, etc.: If they&#8217;re playing music from a radio or music mixes they have created from their own legally purchased CDs, they should be in the clear, just so long as they are not charging patrons for the &#8220;privilege&#8221; of listening to the music. In other words, you&#8217;re paying for the beer, you&#8217;re not paying for the music when you enter the bar. And the same goes for the football game on the bar TV. (Which is why the NFL always puts in that copyright notice during one of the commercials.)</p>
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		<title>By: Great White Rat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Great White Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure that Heart has a leg to stand on.  If I buy their CD, it&#039;s now my property...I can play it anywhere I want, and as loud as I want, as long as I&#039;m not violating local public-disturbance laws.  It would seem to me that all the Palin campaign would need to do is show the receipt to prove they bought the music and innocently state that it&#039;s only being played to entertain people, not to imply an endorsement.

My local supermarket has music playing constantly.  If they&#039;re playing &quot;Piano Man&quot;, it doesn&#039;t mean Billy Joel is endorsing Shop-Rite.

I guess we&#039;d need an opinion from a good intellectual property lawyer to know for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure that Heart has a leg to stand on.  If I buy their CD, it&#8217;s now my property&#8230;I can play it anywhere I want, and as loud as I want, as long as I&#8217;m not violating local public-disturbance laws.  It would seem to me that all the Palin campaign would need to do is show the receipt to prove they bought the music and innocently state that it&#8217;s only being played to entertain people, not to imply an endorsement.</p>
<p>My local supermarket has music playing constantly.  If they&#8217;re playing &#8220;Piano Man&#8221;, it doesn&#8217;t mean Billy Joel is endorsing Shop-Rite.</p>
<p>I guess we&#8217;d need an opinion from a good intellectual property lawyer to know for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;it is completely false that we are losing 10,000 subscribers.&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt; Yes we have only lost 9900 readers so far, so the 10,000 number is COMPLETELY false.  =))  


&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;When Us went to print Monday night, it looked like the ticket was falling apart&quot; says one magazine editor. &quot;They went to print thinking Palin was dead in the water, &lt;/blockquote&gt; Talk about living in a vaccuum.  What, why would anyone think that this ticket was &quot;falling apart&quot;??  What kind of idiots are leading these magazines??  

I have never really liked Heart anyway.  Even when I worked at the head shop, oppps sorry the &quot;tobacco&quot; store, LOL :o), I would never listen to them.  Their music was just so boring.  Much like the Stones, and Aerosmith, and an assortment of others that pretty much sounded alike. - Lorica</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;it is completely false that we are losing 10,000 subscribers.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p> Yes we have only lost 9900 readers so far, so the 10,000 number is COMPLETELY false.  <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_rotfl.gif' alt='&#61;&#41;&#41;' class='wp-smiley' width='30' height='18' title='&#61;&#41;&#41;' />  </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;When Us went to print Monday night, it looked like the ticket was falling apart&#8221; says one magazine editor. &#8220;They went to print thinking Palin was dead in the water, </p></blockquote>
<p> Talk about living in a vaccuum.  What, why would anyone think that this ticket was &#8220;falling apart&#8221;??  What kind of idiots are leading these magazines??  </p>
<p>I have never really liked Heart anyway.  Even when I worked at the head shop, oppps sorry the &#8220;tobacco&#8221; store, LOL <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_clown.gif' alt='&#58;&#111;&#41;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#58;&#111;&#41;' />, I would never listen to them.  Their music was just so boring.  Much like the Stones, and Aerosmith, and an assortment of others that pretty much sounded alike. &#8211; Lorica</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Wilson sisters can&#039;t stop me from hearing that gritty guitar riff from their song in my head every time Sarah! appears on my TV screen.

Can they...?</description>
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