Comments on: General thoughts on last night’s debate and the state of the race http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/10/08/general-thoughts-on-last-nights-debate-and-the-state-of-the-rac/ Don't dis or dismiss this miss! Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:23:12 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Uncommon Sense http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/10/08/general-thoughts-on-last-nights-debate-and-the-state-of-the-rac/comment-page-1/#comment-750427 Uncommon Sense Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:04:17 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/?p=7474#comment-750427 Going into the debate, the onus was firmly on McCain to set the tone. Obama was carrying a huge lead in the polls, and had no incentive to do anything but play it safe. And, although his constant mantra of "blame Bush" was certainly offputting, he did a good job of staying on safe, well-covered ground. McCain needed to do more. Instead, he stuck with the tired approach of "I have the experience, my opponent does not". That hasn't worked yet, why does he expect it will suddenly find resonance now? Where was the bold economic leadership? The detailed, comprehensive plan to raise us out of this malaise? Almost entirely absent, but for a (poorly explored) proposal to spend hundreds of billions and massively increase the intrusiveness of government in peoples' lives. Those who want big government are going to vote for the candidate who has stood for big government as long as he's been in office. McCain isn't going to win on that platform. He's also not going to win by simply attacking Obama, whether that be on his Fannie/Freddie record, or on his dealings with people like Ayers and Rezko. McCain has to have a positive, strong message of his own, and Tuesday night he did not. BTW, for those interested, here's my <a href="http://uncommon-sense-blog.com/pivot/entry.php?id=131" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>full review of the debate</strong></a> Going into the debate, the onus was firmly on McCain to set the tone.

Obama was carrying a huge lead in the polls, and had no incentive to do anything but play it safe. And, although his constant mantra of “blame Bush” was certainly offputting, he did a good job of staying on safe, well-covered ground.

McCain needed to do more. Instead, he stuck with the tired approach of “I have the experience, my opponent does not”. That hasn’t worked yet, why does he expect it will suddenly find resonance now?

Where was the bold economic leadership? The detailed, comprehensive plan to raise us out of this malaise? Almost entirely absent, but for a (poorly explored) proposal to spend hundreds of billions and massively increase the intrusiveness of government in peoples’ lives.

Those who want big government are going to vote for the candidate who has stood for big government as long as he’s been in office. McCain isn’t going to win on that platform.

He’s also not going to win by simply attacking Obama, whether that be on his Fannie/Freddie record, or on his dealings with people like Ayers and Rezko. McCain has to have a positive, strong message of his own, and Tuesday night he did not.

BTW, for those interested, here’s my full review of the debate

]]> By: Lorica http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/10/08/general-thoughts-on-last-nights-debate-and-the-state-of-the-rac/comment-page-1/#comment-750426 Lorica Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:58:01 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/?p=7474#comment-750426 <blockquote>Obama is not only made of teflon</blockquote> Nahhhhhh I have seen Barry get upset about things. He ain't teflon Dear. He just thinks he is. Zogby only shows Barry up by 4 nationwide, that means there is a good possiblility of him losing this election. Don L, as far as Barry being eloquent, he is neither persuasive or powerful in his speaking. He stammers like an elephant doing a jig. The reason he stammers so much is because he is trying to project an image of himself that is in no way reality. Basically he is stammering because he is lying to the American People about who he truly is. - Lorica

Obama is not only made of teflon

Nahhhhhh I have seen Barry get upset about things. He ain’t teflon Dear. He just thinks he is. Zogby only shows Barry up by 4 nationwide, that means there is a good possiblility of him losing this election.

Don L, as far as Barry being eloquent, he is neither persuasive or powerful in his speaking. He stammers like an elephant doing a jig. The reason he stammers so much is because he is trying to project an image of himself that is in no way reality. Basically he is stammering because he is lying to the American People about who he truly is. – Lorica

]]> By: Plumb Bob http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/10/08/general-thoughts-on-last-nights-debate-and-the-state-of-the-rac/comment-page-1/#comment-750419 Plumb Bob Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:20:56 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/?p=7474#comment-750419 If the parties were reversed, the message would long since have become the central narrative of the election, from thousands of reporters producing chaff for their daily releases: "Senator McCain, can you explain why you refused to regulate Fannie Mae in 2003?" "Senator McCain, why is bombing the Capitol Building acceptable to you?" What this election drives home is how badly conservatives in America have become disenfranchised. Our opinion no longer counts; we cannot be heard. It's time to consider providing "new guards for our future security." If the parties were reversed, the message would long since have become the central narrative of the election, from thousands of reporters producing chaff for their daily releases: “Senator McCain, can you explain why you refused to regulate Fannie Mae in 2003?” “Senator McCain, why is bombing the Capitol Building acceptable to you?”

What this election drives home is how badly conservatives in America have become disenfranchised. Our opinion no longer counts; we cannot be heard. It’s time to consider providing “new guards for our future security.”

]]> By: Don L http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/10/08/general-thoughts-on-last-nights-debate-and-the-state-of-the-rac/comment-page-1/#comment-750418 Don L Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:35:10 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/?p=7474#comment-750418 Mccain is paying the price for the bad economy (among other things) He has failedd to defect the blame where it belongs on the libs who used and destroyed FNMA etc. to buy votes (cheap mortgages to those who cant afford them) and stonwalled fixing it. Mccain also is paying the price because the party in power at the white house gets the credit and/or blame when things go well or bad. The failure to blame the democrat congress who handles money is just a small sympton of the GOP biggest weakness since reagan left office -communication and education of the masses. McCain is the worse ever and after GW Bush that's about as neaar the bottom as you can get. No wonder Obama/messiah's elequance breeds comfort and hope to the masses who know little about how the world works. Mccain is paying the price for the bad economy (among other things) He has failedd to defect the blame where it belongs on the libs who used and destroyed FNMA etc. to buy votes (cheap mortgages to those who cant afford them) and stonwalled fixing it. Mccain also is paying the price because the party in power at the white house gets the credit and/or blame when things go well or bad. The failure to blame the democrat congress who handles money is just a small sympton of the GOP biggest weakness since reagan left office -communication and education of the masses.
McCain is the worse ever and after GW Bush that’s about as neaar the bottom as you can get. No wonder Obama/messiah’s elequance breeds comfort and hope to the masses who know little about how the world works.

]]> By: omapian http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/10/08/general-thoughts-on-last-nights-debate-and-the-state-of-the-rac/comment-page-1/#comment-750417 omapian Thu, 09 Oct 2008 04:01:41 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/?p=7474#comment-750417 Health care - a 'Right' or 'Responsibility.' Rights are protected by lawyers and judges. Responsibilities are met by people with integrity and character. It is the difference between a job and a vocation. There can be a significant difference between a clinic staffed by clock-watching employees and a clinic with dedicated volunteers. Should health care professionals provide treatment because the law requires them to or because they really care about a patient? Senator Obama sees health care as a right, encouraging individuals in need to demand treatment and creating victims if the level of care is less than promised. Senator McCain sees health care as a responsibility, placing a burden upon all of us to be our brother's keeper. Health care – a ‘Right’ or ‘Responsibility.’ Rights are protected by lawyers and judges. Responsibilities are met by people with integrity and character. It is the difference between a job and a vocation. There can be a significant difference between a clinic staffed by clock-watching employees and a clinic with dedicated volunteers.
Should health care professionals provide treatment because the law requires them to or because they really care about a patient?
Senator Obama sees health care as a right, encouraging individuals in need to demand treatment and creating victims if the level of care is less than promised.
Senator McCain sees health care as a responsibility, placing a burden upon all of us to be our brother’s keeper.

]]> By: SpideyTerry http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/10/08/general-thoughts-on-last-nights-debate-and-the-state-of-the-rac/comment-page-1/#comment-750416 SpideyTerry Thu, 09 Oct 2008 03:26:10 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/?p=7474#comment-750416 If Obama wins, I'm sure I'll eventually (if not immediately) be vindicated for voting for McCain. Hey, I voted Republican in 2006, the Democrats won and look what happened. The Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac fiasco is just the most recent instance of life essentially telling me, "Yeah, you were right not to vote Democratic." I have a feeling that will happen a lot if Obama is elected - not to mention Republican gains in the 2010 elections. <blockquote>Obama surrogates and supporters are still race-baiting and throwing out the race card</blockquote> Which is really ironic considering <a href="http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/10/barack-obama-thats-just-how-white-folks.html" rel="nofollow"> this post over at Gateway Pundit</a>. A must read about a certain Senator's feelings about those with whiter skin than his. If Obama wins, I’m sure I’ll eventually (if not immediately) be vindicated for voting for McCain. Hey, I voted Republican in 2006, the Democrats won and look what happened. The Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac fiasco is just the most recent instance of life essentially telling me, “Yeah, you were right not to vote Democratic.” I have a feeling that will happen a lot if Obama is elected – not to mention Republican gains in the 2010 elections.

Obama surrogates and supporters are still race-baiting and throwing out the race card

Which is really ironic considering this post over at Gateway Pundit. A must read about a certain Senator’s feelings about those with whiter skin than his.

]]> By: alchemist http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/10/08/general-thoughts-on-last-nights-debate-and-the-state-of-the-rac/comment-page-1/#comment-750413 alchemist Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:35:55 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/?p=7474#comment-750413 For what it's worth, I also despise the spectacle. Both McCain and Obama know there are questions that look better to avoid than to answer. I think that's unfortunate, and even though I'm an Obama supporter I was disappointed (but not surprised) that he chose to skip around them. I always thought it would be fun to have a voting tally. The debater got a point every time the moderator felt you avoided the question. Then we could tally the points at the end and compare not only your answer, but also the score. Then, I could also bet the spread, the over/under etc. Wouldn't that make the debate more exciting in the same way fantasy has changed pro-sports? (Ok, I'm kidding, it's an awful idea, prone to things like accusations of bias, but it sounds exciting... or at least more exciting than last night's debate) For what it’s worth, I also despise the spectacle. Both McCain and Obama know there are questions that look better to avoid than to answer. I think that’s unfortunate, and even though I’m an Obama supporter I was disappointed (but not surprised) that he chose to skip around them.

I always thought it would be fun to have a voting tally. The debater got a point every time the moderator felt you avoided the question. Then we could tally the points at the end and compare not only your answer, but also the score. Then, I could also bet the spread, the over/under etc. Wouldn’t that make the debate more exciting in the same way fantasy has changed pro-sports? (Ok, I’m kidding, it’s an awful idea, prone to things like accusations of bias, but it sounds exciting… or at least more exciting than last night’s debate)

]]> By: Steven W. http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/10/08/general-thoughts-on-last-nights-debate-and-the-state-of-the-rac/comment-page-1/#comment-750411 Steven W. Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:48:03 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/?p=7474#comment-750411 Not just a man America doesn't know but that the Republicans have been unable +/- unwilling to introduce properly ... please take a look at the debate transcript and read the Q&A on Israel. IMO this was like Dukakis trying to explain away his opposition to the death penalty by giving up his wife & family. In this case Obama offered NO defense for Israel - and that should (have) played big ... but seems everybody slept right through it. Not just a man America doesn’t know but that the Republicans have been unable +/- unwilling to introduce properly … please take a look at the debate transcript and read the Q&A on Israel. IMO this was like Dukakis trying to explain away his opposition to the death penalty by giving up his wife & family. In this case Obama offered NO defense for Israel – and that should (have) played big … but seems everybody slept right through it.

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