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		<title>By: Trish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 04:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To LaUnica--

That&#039;s not caring.  That&#039;s an insult.  Giving a &quot;gift&quot; certificate for medical care says plainly, &quot;You&#039;re not capable of taking care of yourself.  I know what&#039;s good for you, and you don&#039;t.&quot;

No one with any self respect would be anything other than offended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To LaUnica&#8211;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not caring.  That&#8217;s an insult.  Giving a &#8220;gift&#8221; certificate for medical care says plainly, &#8220;You&#8217;re not capable of taking care of yourself.  I know what&#8217;s good for you, and you don&#8217;t.&#8221;</p>
<p>No one with any self respect would be anything other than offended.</p>
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		<title>By: Severian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Severian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well then LaUnika, you wouldn&#039;t be upset if Al Queda or Hamas or the KKK set up a clinic and offered gift certificates for pap smears and breast exams and such right? After all, what the organization does with most of the money, or does with their &quot;spare&quot; time when they&#039;re not doing gynecological work, doesn&#039;t matter a whit right? Having ethics and a conscience about who you support is, like, soooo 20th century./:)

Just as long as said clinic isn&#039;t run by Fox News right, I mean, a person has to have some standards...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well then LaUnika, you wouldn&#8217;t be upset if Al Queda or Hamas or the KKK set up a clinic and offered gift certificates for pap smears and breast exams and such right? After all, what the organization does with most of the money, or does with their &#8220;spare&#8221; time when they&#8217;re not doing gynecological work, doesn&#8217;t matter a whit right? Having ethics and a conscience about who you support is, like, soooo 20th century.<img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_eyebrow.gif' alt='&#47;&#58;&#41;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#47;&#58;&#41;' /></p>
<p>Just as long as said clinic isn&#8217;t run by Fox News right, I mean, a person has to have some standards&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LaUnika</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/12/02/planned-parenthood-indiana-offers-abortion-gift-certificates/comment-page-1/#comment-752931</link>
		<dc:creator>LaUnika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Trish:

Why would you be so offended to konw that someone that cared about you wanted to contribute to your medical care, if only in this small way.  

I know many women that, for myriad reasons, are single mothers with no health care.  They use their hard earned money to take care of their families, and often neglect basic care for themselves, such as pap smears and breast examinations.  Receiving a $25 certificate specifically for that purpose may seem to be crass, or not sufficiently frivolous, for a Christmas present for you, but would probably be very welcome and appreciated by a woman that otherwise would not bother taking care of herself in this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Trish:</p>
<p>Why would you be so offended to konw that someone that cared about you wanted to contribute to your medical care, if only in this small way.  </p>
<p>I know many women that, for myriad reasons, are single mothers with no health care.  They use their hard earned money to take care of their families, and often neglect basic care for themselves, such as pap smears and breast examinations.  Receiving a $25 certificate specifically for that purpose may seem to be crass, or not sufficiently frivolous, for a Christmas present for you, but would probably be very welcome and appreciated by a woman that otherwise would not bother taking care of herself in this way.</p>
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		<title>By: Trish</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/12/02/planned-parenthood-indiana-offers-abortion-gift-certificates/comment-page-1/#comment-752877</link>
		<dc:creator>Trish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether or not the certificate is used for an abortion, the money goes to support an organization that performs and promotes abortion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether or not the certificate is used for an abortion, the money goes to support an organization that performs and promotes abortion.</p>
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		<title>By: alchemist</title>
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		<dc:creator>alchemist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just sayin... I would never buy one, I admit it&#039;s weird, but it&#039;s not necessarily an abortion (at least in 90% of cases)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just sayin&#8230; I would never buy one, I admit it&#8217;s weird, but it&#8217;s not necessarily an abortion (at least in 90% of cases)</p>
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		<title>By: Severian</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/12/02/planned-parenthood-indiana-offers-abortion-gift-certificates/comment-page-1/#comment-752873</link>
		<dc:creator>Severian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Margaret Sanger would be proud of you alchemist. Eugenic gift certificates for everyone this Christmas!!! Why not call up and offer to donate towards more minority abortions, we&#039;ve seen that practice accepted by PP recently too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Margaret Sanger would be proud of you alchemist. Eugenic gift certificates for everyone this Christmas!!! Why not call up and offer to donate towards more minority abortions, we&#8217;ve seen that practice accepted by PP recently too.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any link on any PP page which shows that the gift certs are not supposed to be used for abortions, alchemist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any link on any PP page which shows that the gift certs are not supposed to be used for abortions, alchemist?</p>
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		<title>By: alchemist</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/12/02/planned-parenthood-indiana-offers-abortion-gift-certificates/comment-page-1/#comment-752871</link>
		<dc:creator>alchemist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This title (also off &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.plannedparenthood.org/issues-action/birth-control/pp-numbers-17300.htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;LINK&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;) is a better indicator of what they mean:

Estimated number of unintended pregnancies averted by Planned Parenthood contraceptive services each year: 642,000 

They&#039;re talking condoms, creams and the pill here, not abortions (possibly morning after, not clarified here).  

For a better breakdown, go to this PDF (page 6) to see the breakdown of services per year.  Total clients served (unduplicated) is 3,140,000.  Note: Abortions offered is about  289,000 (or roughly 9.2%); there is no explanation of what % is surgical, and what is pharmaceutical... which I would be curious about.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This title (also off <a href="http://www.plannedparenthood.org/issues-action/birth-control/pp-numbers-17300.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>LINK</strong></a>) is a better indicator of what they mean:</p>
<p>Estimated number of unintended pregnancies averted by Planned Parenthood contraceptive services each year: 642,000 </p>
<p>They&#8217;re talking condoms, creams and the pill here, not abortions (possibly morning after, not clarified here).  </p>
<p>For a better breakdown, go to this PDF (page 6) to see the breakdown of services per year.  Total clients served (unduplicated) is 3,140,000.  Note: Abortions offered is about  289,000 (or roughly 9.2%); there is no explanation of what % is surgical, and what is pharmaceutical&#8230; which I would be curious about.)</p>
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		<title>By: Lorica</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/12/02/planned-parenthood-indiana-offers-abortion-gift-certificates/comment-page-1/#comment-752870</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still trying to figure the calculations.  In order for 642,000 to be just 3%, Planned Parenthood must do over 21 million activities throughout the year.  I just don&#039;t see it.  Figuring that most of the women who had Pap tests, are the same women who had breast examines those 2 numbers cancel each other out as far as a customer base goes for an average year.  Also it is a safe assumption that part of those that had STD activities had more than 1 in the year, it is safe to say that they do not provide this to an actual 3 million people.  Also, how many of the women who have an abortion, also have an STD test??  

So basically to say that 642,000 is just 3 percent of what they do at PP, is like me saying my 8 hours of work is only 5 percent of everything that I and my body does if you include every activity that goes on in my body.  

It is silly to attempt to reduce the death of over 600,000 people to such tivial numbers Alchemist. It really is insulting. - Lorica</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still trying to figure the calculations.  In order for 642,000 to be just 3%, Planned Parenthood must do over 21 million activities throughout the year.  I just don&#8217;t see it.  Figuring that most of the women who had Pap tests, are the same women who had breast examines those 2 numbers cancel each other out as far as a customer base goes for an average year.  Also it is a safe assumption that part of those that had STD activities had more than 1 in the year, it is safe to say that they do not provide this to an actual 3 million people.  Also, how many of the women who have an abortion, also have an STD test??  </p>
<p>So basically to say that 642,000 is just 3 percent of what they do at PP, is like me saying my 8 hours of work is only 5 percent of everything that I and my body does if you include every activity that goes on in my body.  </p>
<p>It is silly to attempt to reduce the death of over 600,000 people to such tivial numbers Alchemist. It really is insulting. &#8211; Lorica</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/12/02/planned-parenthood-indiana-offers-abortion-gift-certificates/comment-page-1/#comment-752868</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alchemist, that wasn&#039;t a &quot;correction.&quot;  It would only be a &quot;correction&quot; if what was written was inaccurate.  It wasn&#039;t.  The gift certificates are for multiple &quot;services&quot; &lt;em&gt;including&lt;/em&gt; abortions.  Read the article again.

Why do you always excuse things that are clearly repugnant, alchemist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alchemist, that wasn&#8217;t a &#8220;correction.&#8221;  It would only be a &#8220;correction&#8221; if what was written was inaccurate.  It wasn&#8217;t.  The gift certificates are for multiple &#8220;services&#8221; <em>including</em> abortions.  Read the article again.</p>
<p>Why do you always excuse things that are clearly repugnant, alchemist?</p>
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		<title>By: Trish</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/12/02/planned-parenthood-indiana-offers-abortion-gift-certificates/comment-page-1/#comment-752867</link>
		<dc:creator>Trish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alchemist: 
I repeat, how would you like to be on the receiving end of a gift certificate for a breast exam or a pap smear?
EWWWWWWWWWWWW!

I would much, MUCH rather receive no gift at all than get something like this. UGH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alchemist:<br />
I repeat, how would you like to be on the receiving end of a gift certificate for a breast exam or a pap smear?<br />
EWWWWWWWWWWWW!</p>
<p>I would much, MUCH rather receive no gift at all than get something like this. UGH.</p>
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		<title>By: alchemist</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/12/02/planned-parenthood-indiana-offers-abortion-gift-certificates/comment-page-1/#comment-752865</link>
		<dc:creator>alchemist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a correction, but most of the services planned parenthood offers is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/who-we-are/pp-services-5552.htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;NOT abortions&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  As per the website:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Planned Parenthood health centers focus on prevention: 81 percent of our clients receive services to prevent unintended pregnancy.

Planned Parenthood services help prevent more than 642,000 unintended pregnancies each year.

Planned Parenthood provides more than 1 million Pap tests and more than 880,000 breast exams each year, critical services in detecting cancer.

Planned Parenthood provides more than 3 million tests and treatments for sexually transmitted infections, including HIV.

Three percent of all Planned Parenthood health services are abortion services.

Planned Parenthood affiliates provide educational programs to 1.2 million young people and adults each year.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
And while a getting a breast exam may not be the most &quot;exciting&quot; Christmas gift, it&#039;s certainly better than not getting one at all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a correction, but most of the services planned parenthood offers is <a href="http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/who-we-are/pp-services-5552.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>NOT abortions</strong></a>.  As per the website:</p>
<blockquote><p>Planned Parenthood health centers focus on prevention: 81 percent of our clients receive services to prevent unintended pregnancy.</p>
<p>Planned Parenthood services help prevent more than 642,000 unintended pregnancies each year.</p>
<p>Planned Parenthood provides more than 1 million Pap tests and more than 880,000 breast exams each year, critical services in detecting cancer.</p>
<p>Planned Parenthood provides more than 3 million tests and treatments for sexually transmitted infections, including HIV.</p>
<p>Three percent of all Planned Parenthood health services are abortion services.</p>
<p>Planned Parenthood affiliates provide educational programs to 1.2 million young people and adults each year.</p></blockquote>
<p>And while a getting a breast exam may not be the most &#8220;exciting&#8221; Christmas gift, it&#8217;s certainly better than not getting one at all</p>
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		<title>By: BeachBabe NC</title>
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		<dc:creator>BeachBabe NC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What in the world is this World coming too??  And, my grandparents thought Rock Music was bad!! SHEEESH.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What in the world is this World coming too??  And, my grandparents thought Rock Music was bad!! SHEEESH&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Trish</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/12/02/planned-parenthood-indiana-offers-abortion-gift-certificates/comment-page-1/#comment-752844</link>
		<dc:creator>Trish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you imagine getting one of these as a gift?  Ewwwwwwwwwww. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you imagine getting one of these as a gift?  Ewwwwwwwwwww. . .</p>
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		<title>By: ew</title>
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		<dc:creator>ew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How sick and twisted can people be! Durring the political campaign one thing the liberal illuminati (Obama mainly) kept saying in defense of their abortion stance was &quot;no woman really wants to have an abortion.&quot; They made it sound like abortion the worst alternative but needed to be an alternative none the less. I disagree with that stance but can respect it. This is just sick! Who prints t-shirt, greeting cards, or give gift certificates for abortions. This kind of stupidity needs to be outlawed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How sick and twisted can people be! Durring the political campaign one thing the liberal illuminati (Obama mainly) kept saying in defense of their abortion stance was &#8220;no woman really wants to have an abortion.&#8221; They made it sound like abortion the worst alternative but needed to be an alternative none the less. I disagree with that stance but can respect it. This is just sick! Who prints t-shirt, greeting cards, or give gift certificates for abortions. This kind of stupidity needs to be outlawed!</p>
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