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	<title>Comments on: Senator DeMint: Term limits for Congress sounds like a great idea</title>
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		<title>By: Lorica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The problem is that the Congress is defined by the federal constitution – and that includes terms of office. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Anthony, that is length of terms, not number of terms.  There is no provision in the Constitution that states how many terms a Rep or Sen can have, so my proposal doesn&#039;t change the Constitution in anyway, and the SCOTUS should have no jurisdiction over this law.  The 10th amendment clearly says that whatever the Constitution doesn&#039;t define is left to the states, and since there is no defination regarding number of terms, a state should be able to limit their representation. - Lorica</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The problem is that the Congress is defined by the federal constitution – and that includes terms of office. </p></blockquote>
<p>Anthony, that is length of terms, not number of terms.  There is no provision in the Constitution that states how many terms a Rep or Sen can have, so my proposal doesn&#8217;t change the Constitution in anyway, and the SCOTUS should have no jurisdiction over this law.  The 10th amendment clearly says that whatever the Constitution doesn&#8217;t define is left to the states, and since there is no defination regarding number of terms, a state should be able to limit their representation. &#8211; Lorica</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sister, I&#039;ll see your Sue Myrick and raise you 2 Demints(and throw in that jackleg Graham to boot).
But believe it or not Demint catches crap locally, too. You know, the people with their hands out asking,&quot;where&#039;s mine&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sister, I&#8217;ll see your Sue Myrick and raise you 2 Demints(and throw in that jackleg Graham to boot).<br />
But believe it or not Demint catches crap locally, too. You know, the people with their hands out asking,&#8221;where&#8217;s mine&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lorica:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Actually you do not need a Constitutional Amendment to enact term limits. Each individual state could enact term limit laws.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I disagree. I believe that was tried here in California and the SCOTUS knocked it down. The problem is that the Congress is defined by the federal constitution - and that includes terms of office. States have no authority to alter provisions of the federal constitution, other than by calling for a convention on a proposed amendment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lorica:</p>
<blockquote><p>Actually you do not need a Constitutional Amendment to enact term limits. Each individual state could enact term limit laws.</p></blockquote>
<p>I disagree. I believe that was tried here in California and the SCOTUS knocked it down. The problem is that the Congress is defined by the federal constitution &#8211; and that includes terms of office. States have no authority to alter provisions of the federal constitution, other than by calling for a convention on a proposed amendment.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heartily agree with Carlos and Steve above....career politicians have feathered their own nests for too long.  They should not have the advantage of insurances and pensions after they have served. They should be citizen servants not sacred cows. 

Gerrymandering is always a temporary condition and always reversible. It should be considered spoils of the election victory by the incumbent. They could lengthen the amount of time it takes to do the dirty deed just to make it inconvenient.

They really should take away the platinum parachutes of these pampered politicos.  When your out, your out. period.

I think the best term limit is an educated constituency. WE NEED TO BE MORE INVOLVED in the political scene, not just when it&#039;s election time, but day-to-day mundane ways.  Drop a line to your congressman/woman.  Send them a fax. Drop by their office.  Do whatever it takes to let them know you are looking over their shoulder...sunshine does a lot to disinfect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heartily agree with Carlos and Steve above&#8230;.career politicians have feathered their own nests for too long.  They should not have the advantage of insurances and pensions after they have served. They should be citizen servants not sacred cows. </p>
<p>Gerrymandering is always a temporary condition and always reversible. It should be considered spoils of the election victory by the incumbent. They could lengthen the amount of time it takes to do the dirty deed just to make it inconvenient.</p>
<p>They really should take away the platinum parachutes of these pampered politicos.  When your out, your out. period.</p>
<p>I think the best term limit is an educated constituency. WE NEED TO BE MORE INVOLVED in the political scene, not just when it&#8217;s election time, but day-to-day mundane ways.  Drop a line to your congressman/woman.  Send them a fax. Drop by their office.  Do whatever it takes to let them know you are looking over their shoulder&#8230;sunshine does a lot to disinfect.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will never happen.  Corruption is way too widespread in D.C. (or Sacramento, Salem, Olympia, Boise, etc. - choose your state) for any effective way to eliminate it by other than voting the grubs out.  But remember, it&#039;s always the other guy&#039;s &quot;grub&quot;, not yours.

Increase their pay to say $300,000/yr., and eliminate any acceptance of &quot;gifts&quot; during the time from election to leaving office (including meals, even a Big Mac), with ANY violation of such cause for immediate removal from office.

Eliminate perks after office, especially retirement.  Allow insurances during time in office, but that is eliminated at term&#039;s end, without even a COBRA.

And eliminate franking privileges except to the media.  If what they say in their pompous &quot;newsletters&quot; is worth hearing or reading, the media can get it out.

And as for gerrymandering, nothing will ever eliminate that.  Whoever&#039;s in power each time redistricting is done will continue to control that process.

Last, but certainly not least, power corrupts.  Absolute power (like being a Kennedy in MA) corrupts absolutely.  As proof, I give you the leadership of both parties in D.C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will never happen.  Corruption is way too widespread in D.C. (or Sacramento, Salem, Olympia, Boise, etc. &#8211; choose your state) for any effective way to eliminate it by other than voting the grubs out.  But remember, it&#8217;s always the other guy&#8217;s &#8220;grub&#8221;, not yours.</p>
<p>Increase their pay to say $300,000/yr., and eliminate any acceptance of &#8220;gifts&#8221; during the time from election to leaving office (including meals, even a Big Mac), with ANY violation of such cause for immediate removal from office.</p>
<p>Eliminate perks after office, especially retirement.  Allow insurances during time in office, but that is eliminated at term&#8217;s end, without even a COBRA.</p>
<p>And eliminate franking privileges except to the media.  If what they say in their pompous &#8220;newsletters&#8221; is worth hearing or reading, the media can get it out.</p>
<p>And as for gerrymandering, nothing will ever eliminate that.  Whoever&#8217;s in power each time redistricting is done will continue to control that process.</p>
<p>Last, but certainly not least, power corrupts.  Absolute power (like being a Kennedy in MA) corrupts absolutely.  As proof, I give you the leadership of both parties in D.C.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually you do not need a Constitutional Amendment to enact term limits.  Each individual state could enact term limit laws.  But the only way I will agree to term limits is if there is NO retirement incentive ever.  Otherwise you are going to have 10s of 1000s of these guys sitting on their fat asses collecting a pension for doing nothing. - Lorica</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually you do not need a Constitutional Amendment to enact term limits.  Each individual state could enact term limit laws.  But the only way I will agree to term limits is if there is NO retirement incentive ever.  Otherwise you are going to have 10s of 1000s of these guys sitting on their fat asses collecting a pension for doing nothing. &#8211; Lorica</p>
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		<title>By: LC Gregory</title>
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		<dc:creator>LC Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank heavens the political class has never successfully learned how to gerrymander a state.

One of the biggest problems I have with the term-limits idea is that everyone wants to term-limit the OTHER guy&#039;s candidate.  Simple fact is, if you don&#039;t like the reps that Massachusetts keeps sending, you probably don&#039;t agree with most of the people in Massachusetts.

And needless to say, I am FIRMLY against a good guy term-limiting himself, ensuring that the real scum keep the good congressional jobs like the committee chairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank heavens the political class has never successfully learned how to gerrymander a state.</p>
<p>One of the biggest problems I have with the term-limits idea is that everyone wants to term-limit the OTHER guy&#8217;s candidate.  Simple fact is, if you don&#8217;t like the reps that Massachusetts keeps sending, you probably don&#8217;t agree with most of the people in Massachusetts.</p>
<p>And needless to say, I am FIRMLY against a good guy term-limiting himself, ensuring that the real scum keep the good congressional jobs like the committee chairs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Benway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Benway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Alliance for Bonded Term Limits, Inc., a grassroots, non-profit organization in Pinehurst, NC has just signed its first Congressional candidate, pledging term limits backed by a bond of $250,000 in personal worth. See &lt;a  href=&quot;http://breazealeforcongress.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;LINK&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

See also JC Watts&#039; endorsement &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/a-fresh-approach-to-term-limits-65931402.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;LINK&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

We are in the process of signing a second Congressional candidate as of this writing, with another in discussion stage, along with a Senatorial challenger.  (Note:  We never touch the money pledged, which goes to a pre-designated charity, if he reneges.)

Go to our website. Look around. Join us ... no cost. Spread our word.  Call us, if we can answer questions.  We are out to return legislation to We The People.

Respectfully,
Ken Benway
Alliance for Bonded Term Limits, Inc.
Office 910.420.2753</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Alliance for Bonded Term Limits, Inc., a grassroots, non-profit organization in Pinehurst, NC has just signed its first Congressional candidate, pledging term limits backed by a bond of $250,000 in personal worth. See <a href="http://breazealeforcongress.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>LINK</strong></a></p>
<p>See also JC Watts&#8217; endorsement <a href="http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/a-fresh-approach-to-term-limits-65931402.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>LINK</strong></a></p>
<p>We are in the process of signing a second Congressional candidate as of this writing, with another in discussion stage, along with a Senatorial challenger.  (Note:  We never touch the money pledged, which goes to a pre-designated charity, if he reneges.)</p>
<p>Go to our website. Look around. Join us &#8230; no cost. Spread our word.  Call us, if we can answer questions.  We are out to return legislation to We The People.</p>
<p>Respectfully,<br />
Ken Benway<br />
Alliance for Bonded Term Limits, Inc.<br />
Office 910.420.2753</p>
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		<title>By: camojack</title>
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		<dc:creator>camojack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;What do you think?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;ve been saying it for &lt;strong&gt;years&lt;/strong&gt;... [-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;What do you think?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been saying it for <strong>years</strong>&#8230; <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_silent.gif' alt='&#91;&#45;&#40;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#91;&#45;&#40;' /></p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like a great idea to me.  We need term limits for Congress the same reason we&#039;ve got them for Presidents - when they stay in office too long...they lose touch with the people...and reality.

These guys spend all their time either raising money for their next election or campaigning for their next election...no wonder they never have any time left over to spend working on the people&#039;s business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a great idea to me.  We need term limits for Congress the same reason we&#8217;ve got them for Presidents &#8211; when they stay in office too long&#8230;they lose touch with the people&#8230;and reality.</p>
<p>These guys spend all their time either raising money for their next election or campaigning for their next election&#8230;no wonder they never have any time left over to spend working on the people&#8217;s business.</p>
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		<title>By: MARY SOKIRA</title>
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		<dc:creator>MARY SOKIRA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am all for term limits but would go further than DeMint&#039;s proposal.  Limit the senate to six years, and the house to six years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am all for term limits but would go further than DeMint&#8217;s proposal.  Limit the senate to six years, and the house to six years.</p>
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		<title>By: Pasadena Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pasadena Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our experience here in CA is that term limits don&#039;t work. In fact, the evidence strongly argues that it makes things worse. Our state assemblymen, for instance, are limited to two-terms. In their first term, they &quot;go along to get along&quot; and so accomplish nothing. Then in their second term, not worried about getting re-elected and looking for future work, they become completely beholden to special interests. 

A better alternative would be to better police gerrymandering to ensure that congressional districts are competitive.

The best choice would be clean up the blatant but legal corruption that our entrenched elected corruptocrats brazenly exploit without betraying any sense of shame.

It would also help a great deal to centralize ALL fund raising and custodying of funds in one closely regulated bank created just for that purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our experience here in CA is that term limits don&#8217;t work. In fact, the evidence strongly argues that it makes things worse. Our state assemblymen, for instance, are limited to two-terms. In their first term, they &#8220;go along to get along&#8221; and so accomplish nothing. Then in their second term, not worried about getting re-elected and looking for future work, they become completely beholden to special interests. </p>
<p>A better alternative would be to better police gerrymandering to ensure that congressional districts are competitive.</p>
<p>The best choice would be clean up the blatant but legal corruption that our entrenched elected corruptocrats brazenly exploit without betraying any sense of shame.</p>
<p>It would also help a great deal to centralize ALL fund raising and custodying of funds in one closely regulated bank created just for that purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Term limits are needed. The national parties pick the candidates now, not the voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Term limits are needed. The national parties pick the candidates now, not the voters.</p>
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		<title>By: Back Up the Paddy Wagons, Congress Is Breaking The Law! &#171; Moonbat Patrol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Back Up the Paddy Wagons, Congress Is Breaking The Law! &#171; Moonbat Patrol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other problem with this amendment just occurred to me: In California, we have a term-limited legislature, but it&#039;s still unresponsive and out of touch with the people. (Heck, it&#039;s practically an oligarchy.) The problem is two-fold, and applies to the situation with congress:

1) Gerrymandered congressional districts, what are commonly called here safe seats. The districts are drawn not to represent roughly even numbers of population nor geographic contiguity, but to guarantee there are enough voters of a particular party to keep that seat in the party. (We do the same for the legislature and the House, though state-legislative gerrymandering was recently abolished for the next round) So, a Democrat or Republican termed out is most likely replaced by someone of the same party. Something would have to be done about gerrymandered districts at the Federal level.

2) The public employees unions (and other big donors) still have a lot of influence, because a termed-out legislator will still need their good will (and cash and campaign workers) to pursue a political career after their current office, particularly if they&#039;re running for the next higher office. And someone new will be very tempted to accept their aid, too, since running for office is expensive and complicated.

It&#039;s a quandary, all right. 

:-/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other problem with this amendment just occurred to me: In California, we have a term-limited legislature, but it&#8217;s still unresponsive and out of touch with the people. (Heck, it&#8217;s practically an oligarchy.) The problem is two-fold, and applies to the situation with congress:</p>
<p>1) Gerrymandered congressional districts, what are commonly called here safe seats. The districts are drawn not to represent roughly even numbers of population nor geographic contiguity, but to guarantee there are enough voters of a particular party to keep that seat in the party. (We do the same for the legislature and the House, though state-legislative gerrymandering was recently abolished for the next round) So, a Democrat or Republican termed out is most likely replaced by someone of the same party. Something would have to be done about gerrymandered districts at the Federal level.</p>
<p>2) The public employees unions (and other big donors) still have a lot of influence, because a termed-out legislator will still need their good will (and cash and campaign workers) to pursue a political career after their current office, particularly if they&#8217;re running for the next higher office. And someone new will be very tempted to accept their aid, too, since running for office is expensive and complicated.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a quandary, all right. </p>
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