Mexico, a failing state?

Posted by: Phineas on September 19, 2010 at 1:01 pm

One of the marks of a dying polity, at least in my estimation, is when the criminals no longer fear the police. When that happens, the government can no longer enforce law and order and a state of anarchy prevails. Mexico may not be a failed state –yet– but there are numerous and growing signs of breakdown, such as the kidnapping and murder of the police, themselves:

Police in Mexico say eight officers who were abducted by gunmen in the southern state of Guerrero on Friday have been found shot dead.

A ninth member of the unit has been found alive with wounds to his head. The bodies of some of the dead officers are reported to have been mutilated.

The police patrol was investigating a murder when it was ambushed.

Guerrero state has been a focus of the drugs-related violence that has killed more than 28,000 Mexicans since 2006.

The nine agents from the federal investigative police had travelled to the Teloloapan district after a man was reported shot dead.

As they went in pursuit of the suspected killers they were stopped by a large group of gunmen.

Two officers were found shot dead close to where they were abducted. The other six bodies were found about 15km away after a search by police and troops.

Note that these were federal cops, Mexico’s equivalent of the FBI or Justice Department investigators. Imagine if a group of FBI agents were kidnapped and executed in the US. This isn’t just criminal activity; it’s insurrection. These cartels are not just running drugs, they’re denying the authority of the government itself and saying they rule, instead.

In one of the rare times I’ll ever agree with Hillary Clinton on anything, she was right to say Mexico more and more resembles Colombia as it was 20 years ago.

Only this time the problem is right on our border, rather than 3,500 miles away.

LINKS: The AP has an earlier article on the kidnapping and murder.

(Crossposted at Public Secrets)

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11 Responses to “Mexico, a failing state?”


  1. The problems in Mexico are escalating, and yet just Friday, Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano told reporters border security was getting better. She said she has reservations about militarizing the border and did not want to send National Guard troops to help us out.

    When reporters asked Napolitano about Governor Perry’s (TX) request for more troops, she said Perry could send them anytime he wanted “if he’s willing to pay for them.” So, Texas can pay for U.S. border security for the feds, but heaven help Arizona for trying to take care of it themselves when the feds won’t help? Doesn’t make sense.

    Gov. Perry’s repeated requests for a meeting on border security with Obama are still being ignored by the White House.

    Mexico is bad. The rest of the country needs to know this. We in Texas are on the front lines and Washington is a joke.

    Thanks for posting.

  2. Carlos says:

    And you can be sure that, as soon as Perry does send troops to the border, JanNap and Duh-1 will have media-driven conniption fits about how the “evil” Perry is trying to do the feds’ job and how wrong that is and he’s profiling and he’s trying to start a war and the feds have everything under control and…

    You get the idea. There’s no way Perry and Texas can win, unless the MSM tells the truth about this (that ain’t gonna happen) or private citizens nationwide let there elected officials know loudly, clearly and constantly that inaction and/or aid to the foreigners is enough to get them kicked out of office and replaced by someone who will help protect our homeland.

  3. Carlos says:

    “…citizens nationwide let there their elected officials know…”

    Sorry. Musta been asleep, or paying as much attention to what I was doing as Duh-1 does to the economy, or something…

  4. Steve Hussein Skubinna says:

    Imagine if a group of FBI agents were kidnapped and executed in the US.

    Heck, let a federal agent call in sick and the left hyperventilates about “Tea Party violence!!11!!eleventy!! Plus racism!!!”

    I don’t think Mexico is going to fail as a state, but what I think is happening is that the central government is losing control of some of the states or at least regions, and that these states are likely to fall under the domination of the organized criminals. Obviously such a condition could not stand for long, and the odds are that we – the US – will find ourselves involved somehow with establishing order.

    Of course, if my predicted scenario comes to pass, watch Obama issue a peevish statement in which he urges the Mexican government and the cartels to both act responsibly and not escalate the violence.

  5. nina says:

    Mexico is far worst than Columbia. In Cali the people killed were involved with drugs. In Mexico they are killing everybody. It’s amazing that GWB and BO will not close the border. We are currently being invaded by Mexicans,Muslim terrorists and many others though that border.

  6. 2hotel9 says:

    Sis? Mexico has been a failed state since the Spainards packed up their mules and bugged out. The policia made themselves what they are today by engaging in massive corruption, the cartels and terrorist cells are simply stepping into the vaccum.

  7. John says:

    I am an American living in Mexico and I have to suggest that instead of pointing fingers that we consider the actual source/cause of the unrest currently being experienced in Mexico, the 30 year war on drugs in the U.S. and the effect it has had on the value of illicit drugs there. Waging war against narcotics has made the drug trade in Mexico a very profitable business, $30-$40 billion annually by some estimates, ( I once read that you would have to manufacture $340-$400 billion worth of automobiles to achieve those profits). So you see it is VERY big business!

    And until we take away this source of income from organized crime in Mexico by legalizing and controlling mild drugs such as marijuana and reducing the penalties on the use of more serious narcotics such as cocaine in the U.S., the war currently raging in Mexico will rage on. It is a tough pill for alot of people to swallow (no pun intended) but it is the cold hard truth. It was, after all, the prohibition of alcohol that gave birth to the blood thirsty gangsters of Americas history such Al Copone and the like. Prohibition was ultimately repealed in large part because of the realization that making alcohol illegal created an enormous vacuum for a highly desirable product, which created a valuable black market that a lot of blood would be spilt to control.

    That being said, I also want to mention that most Americans know embarrassingly little about Mexico, or even Canada for that matter. Pointing the finger and declaring everything South of the Border “bad” or “evil” is incredibly ignorant and does not reflect well on us as Americans. We should really refrain from stereotyping 100+ million people and a country as rich in culture, heritage and natural beauty as Mexico. Mexico has its problems, but so does any other nation on the globe. We are neighboring countries, and while I cannot speak for every part of the U.S., I can say that where I come from in Southern Ohio we certainly treat our neighbors with a great deal more kindness and respect than I see my fellow Americans doing on most threads pertaining to Mexico. We should care more about what happens South of the border not only because of how it affects the lives of people in the U.S., but because of how it affects the lives of good people trying to raise a family in Mexico as well.

  8. Jo says:

    Well, John, sounds like everything in Mexico is just ducky and we ignorant Americans you obviously fled from should just butt out. Like Obambi and Janet, we’ll ignore all of the drug violence, the desperate flight into America by all of those Mexicans who, according to you, live in a Utopian state and the killing of law agents there. Our bad.

  9. nina says:

    John stay in Mexico. You are a neophyte when it comes to Mexico. The main reason the drug cartel profited and expanded was because the government is so corrupt .All the local mayors and police worked with the narcos and benefitted tremendously money wise. You can stop by any little town and usually there are two mansions among the little homes. One is the mayor and the other one is the police chief. Eventually the narcos overpowered the government as they had better arms,more people working for them and a lot of the special forces (los Zetas) working for them. Now the government is trying to take control of a situation that they helped create and I am afraid they can no longer control. As for our country building a fence and posting the military at the border are the best we can do. You and the mexicans can take control of your mess.

  10. Kate says:

    I guess John lives in a well walled and secured apartment complex. How much is that security costing you each week?

    I have first hand, eyewitness reports or abductions and threats of abduction of American children and other family members who live in Mexico. I have friends who regularly go to Mexico at least once or twice a year to help with missionaries in southern Mexico in Santo Domingo building homes and doctors who treat families who live in the dumps of Mexico City(Which are run by crime syndicates who make people pay to pick trash. Our doctors are allowed only because they need the people to stay well to work for them.)…so I would say I have a very good idea of what is going on in those areas of Mexico. It’s not much better near the borders, either. So if you intend on staying in Mexico, don’t think you are exempt from surveillance and threats of violence. I am sure if you had children in this situation you would not be so self-secure.

  11. Bill Fabrizio says:

    I disagree that Mexico is a failing state. In fact, Mexico is in the state of “chaos” and is doing a magnificient job in achieving that goal!