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Carlos says:

July 7, 2011 at 1:53 pm

Gosh, I can hardly wait until the left starts using this as a “talking point,” that our government has to become more centralized in D.C. because, my goodness, look what happens when a central government is weak!

And trust me, now that this has been brought up, they will.
Tex says:

July 7, 2011 at 2:44 pm

In my opinion, Pakistan is a terror sponsoring state and should be treated as such, not as an ally. By treating them as an ally, they extract important information from us that they use to help them hide and protect the various terrorists factions they give logistical support to who target the West.

The best antidote for the poison of Pakistan is a very strong India with very close ties, diplomatically and militarily, to the U.S. The Indians want to have more of a presence in Afghanistan and we should pull out all the stops to see to it.

Having Pakistan surrounded on two sides by India would go a long way to constrain Pakistan’s terrorist sponsoring aspirations since they obviously fear nuclear reprisal from India far more than from the U.S.
Carlos says:

July 7, 2011 at 6:20 pm

Well, what you say makes sense, Tex.

Therefore, the chances of it ever happening in D.C. are close to zero, and the chances of this administration doing anything like that is far beyond zilch.
Aarradin says:

July 7, 2011 at 10:14 pm

So long as we have troops in Afghanistan, or wish to have any influence there whatsoever, we must maintain a working relationship with Pakistan.

Yes, publicize all of this stuff, and pressure the Pakistani government as much as possible, but the fact is they’ve got us over a barrel and they know it.

Also, don’t forget that their government does not have full control over either their territory or their own institutions – including their army and intelligence services (both of which have factions that would prefer to be working with the taliban rather than us, or even their own government). Its also a very weak government that recently saw the assassination of a presidential candidate.

Be sure to think a few steps ahead too. What is likely to happen if we cut off aid and break diplomatic ties (aside from screwing ourselves in Afghanistan)? Does the Pakistani government fall? There is a strong and growing Islamist movement in the country. Would you prefer we work to strengthen the current government, or let it fall and see an Islamic Republic replace it?

These are not simple issues (certainly not in comparison to, say, cutting funding to the Palestinians, or pressuring England over the fact that a great many terrorists are radicalized in their universities). A clear sign of the comprehensive ignorance people have on Pakistan is readily apparent when discussions of its issues completely fail to consider our dependency on Pakistan due to our mission in Afghanistan.
NC COp says:

July 7, 2011 at 10:30 pm

“So long as we have troops in Afghanistan, or wish to have any influence there whatsoever, we must maintain a working relationship with Pakistan.”

Why is that? Why do you feel that Pakistan is that vital? I’m not attacking your stance, I’m truly curious as to why you think that is the case.

“There is a strong and growing Islamist movement in the country. Would you prefer we work to strengthen the current government, or let it fall and see an Islamic Republic replace it?”

Which would change Pakistan into what? A country that supports, finances and harbors terrorism? We’ve alredy got that. It seems like you are giving us a choice between six of one, half dozen of the other, except we could save a few hundred million taxpayer dollars with one scenario.
Phineas says:

July 7, 2011 at 10:31 pm

A clear sign of the comprehensive ignorance people have on Pakistan is readily apparent when discussions of its issues completely fail to consider our dependency on Pakistan due to our mission in Afghanistan.

I believe I mentioned that in the post and also that the strategic situation is changing do to withdrawal over the next year or so.
captaingrumpy says:

July 8, 2011 at 6:19 pm

Drop Muslim Pakistan and take up India ,which has far closer religious links to the west than Pakistan. India will turn to China if America does not see what they are doing.They are keeping Pakistan as an ally because they need a crisis always on hand.Dems do more shonky work in a crisis than they would normally.THAT’S why they keep Pakistan.

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