Vancouver, WA man on gun charge: @VP Biden owes me an apology for bad advice

Biden Owes Me

Vancouver, WA’s Jeffrey C. Barton. Image via The Columbian’s Emily Gillespie.

The Columbian reports:

Jeffrey C. Barton wants an apology from Vice President Joe Biden.

The Vancouver man faces a misdemeanor charge of illegally discharging a firearm from an incident July 15 in which he says he fired a shotgun in the air to chase away three men who were allegedly breaking into his vehicles.

After pleading not guilty July 17 to the misdemeanor charge, 52-year-old Barton said that he was following advice from the vice president of the United States.

“I did what Joe Biden told me to do. I went outside and fired my shotgun in the air,” he said.

Barton’s comment on Biden refers to a question about home defense that Biden was asked in February. Biden responded that Americans don’t need semi-automatic weapons because a couple blasts from a shotgun will scare off intruders.

Clark County Sheriff’s deputies said that’s only allowed in self-defense.

Barton’s comment, dubbed the “Joe Biden defense,” became international news and was the subject of a two-minute segment on “The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.”

He appeared in court this morning. While maintaining that he did nothing wrong, Barton said outside the courtroom that Biden owes him an apology. Underneath a black jacket, Barton wore a black T-shirt with the words “Joe Biden Owes Me,” written in white letters on the back.

“He should really know the law before he starts giving America advice on national television,” Barton said Tuesday morning.

A lot of people will read this and laugh, but I find the case a bit intriguing.  Of course, ultimately it is incumbent upon individual citizens to read up on the gun laws in their respective states so they can know what their specific rights are when it comes to firearms, but by the same token it is incumbent upon our elected officials to be responsible enough NOT give out off the cuff , spur of the moment, unsure “advice” on how best to protect yourself, ward off criminals, and handle your weapons!  From a February HuffPo piece:

During a Facebook Town Hall hosted by Parents magazine, Biden took a handful of questions from readers about gun violence. One questioner named Kate asked how gun owners would be able to sufficiently protect themselves if Congress passed a bill banning certain weapons and high-capacity gun magazines.

“Kate, if you want to protect yourself, get a double barreled shotgun,” Biden responded. “I promise you, as I told my wife, we live in an area that’s wooded and somewhat secluded. I said, Jill, if there’s ever a problem, just walk out on the balcony here, walk out, put [up] that double barreled shotgun and fire two blasts outside the house.”

The vice president said that by firing two shotgun blasts, anyone who might be trying to break in would be scared off.

“You don’t need an AR-15,” he said. “Buy a shotgun! Buy a shotgun!”

Again, Mr. Barton is responsible for his own actions but Vice President Biden should have also had to bear some responsibility for, frankly, his irresponsibility – and he should have done it way back when by clarifying his remarks once he had gotten advice from experts. Self defense is a serious issue that involves serious discussion on a national stage, none of which describes the “advice” Biden gave earlier this year.

(via Memeorandum)

Dumb: Two seventh grade students in Va. Beach suspended for shooting airsoft guns UPDATE: Expelled!

WAVY reports on another instance of a “zero tolerance policy” in schools going way too far:

VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (WAVY) – A suspended seventh grade Virginia Beach student will find out soon if he is expelled for the rest of the year for shooting an airsoft gun.

Like thousands of others in Hampton Roads, Khalid Caraballo plays with airsoft guns. Caraballo and his friend Aidan were suspended because they shot two other friends who were with them while playing with the guns as they waited for the school bus.

The two seventh graders say they never went to the bus stop; they fired the airsoft guns while on Caraballo’s private property.

Aidan’s father, Tim Clark, told WAVY.com what happened next lacks commons sense. The children were suspended for possession, handling and use of a firearm.

Khalid’s mother, Solangel Caraballo, thinks it is ridiculous the Virginia Beach City Public School System suspended her 13-year-old son and Aidan because they were firing a spring-driven airsoft gun on the Caraballo’s posted private property.  “My son is my private property.  He does not become the school’s property until he goes to the bus stop, gets on the bus, and goes to school.”

The bus stop in question is 70 yards from the Caraballo’s front yard.

Solangel Caraballo was not at home when this incident occurred.  She was taking her young son to a Head Start class.  She left her 16-year -old daughter in charge.

Khalid and Aiden aren’t only suspended, they were recommended to be expelled for a year for “possession, handling and use of a firearm.”

This story that addresses Zero Tolerance extending to private property began on September 9 with a 911 call from a concerned citizen.

Make sure to read the rest of it.  WAVY spoke to the “concerned citizen” who made the 911 call, who in her call confirmed she knew real guns were not being used but that, “it makes people uncomfortable. I know that it makes me (uncomfortable), as a mom, to see a boy pointing a gun …”

I have a hunch this is more what the call was about:

Ironically, that 911 caller’s son was playing with Khalid and Aidan in the Caraballo front yard on September 12. There were six children playing in an airsoft gun war.  “We see the bus come. We put the gun down. We did not take the airsoft gun to the bus stop.  We did not take the gun to school,” Khalid explained.

Aidan admits shooting the caller’s son in the arm, and Khalid admits shooting another friend in the back.

Petty parent using law enforcement to solve a  harmless “problem” between her child and one of his friends? Sure sounds like it.

Airsoft gun

Airsoft guns are NOT ”firearms.” Sigh. Photo via WAVY.

 

Phineas Butts In: Bryan Preston updates with the “You’ve got to be kidding me” news. Unanimous?

The boys have been expelled from school by a unanimous vote. Unbelievable.

VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (WAVY) – A seventh grade Virginia Beach student previously suspended for shooting an airsoft gun has been expelled, WAVY.com has learned.

During a hearing Tuesday morning, Aidan Clark and Khalid Caraballo were expelled in a unanimous vote. Clark was offered the option of attending an alternative school, but his father, Tim, told WAVY News’ Andy Fox he will be homeschooled.

Caraballo will attend an alternative school.

Unbelievable.

UPDATE 2 (Phineas): WAVY has corrected the story. The boys have received “long-term suspensions,” not expulsions:

During a hearing with a disciplinary committee Tuesday morning, Aidan Clark, Khalid Caraballo and a third friend were given long-term suspensions in a unanimous vote. The suspensions will last until June, but a hearing will be held January 27 to determine if they will be allowed back in school sooner.

I’m with the parents: this is a distinction without a meaningful difference. And the school administrators still need to be demoted to janitor.

Illinois Supreme Court overturns state ban on carrying firearms

**Posted by Phineas

Here’s a surprising victory for constitutional rights in one of the most gun-restrictive states in the nation:

In an unusually forceful and straightforward opinion in the case of People v. Aguilar, the Supreme Court of Illinois unanimously held that the state’s “comprehensive ban” on the “use of an operable firearm for self-defense outside the home” is invalid on its face under the Second Amendment. The NRA had participated in the case with an amicus brief.

The court surveyed the Supreme Court’s recent Second Amendment decisions, as well as state and federal precedents from courts in Illinois. Regarding the significance of the Supreme Court’s opinions, it declared: “neither Heller nor McDonald expressly limits the second amendment’s protections to the home. On the contrary, both decisions contain language strongly suggesting if not outright confirming that the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms extends beyond the home.” It also characterized the Illinois law as “a wholesale statutory ban on the exercise of a personal right that is specifically named in and guaranteed by the United States Constitution….” According to the court, “In no other context would we permit this, and we will not permit it here either.”

And this was in Illinois. Maybe there’s hope for overturning California’s draconian gun laws, yet.

via ST on Facebook

(Crossposted at Public Secrets)

Colorado gun rights advocates score big win in #COrecall election

Via Political Wire:

“An epic national debate over gun rights in Colorado on Tuesday saw two Democratic state senators ousted for their support for stricter laws, a ‘ready, aim, fired’ message intended to stop other politicians for pushing for firearms restrictions,” the Denver Post reports.

[…]

Joshua Spivak: “There’s no question that Gun Rights groups scored a big win here. I mentioned that this is a symbolic recall — the gun control law was not getting overturned and the Democrats would not lose control of the Senate. However, as a symbol, this is a big one. It may once again scare off legislators from moderate to conservative districts in the rest of the country from supporting gun control legislation. If the goal was to revisit 1994, then it is very possible that they succeeded.”

More from that Denver Post article:

The turn of events made Morse and Giron the first Colorado state lawmakers to be recalled. Former Colorado Springs councilman Bernie Herpin will take Morse’s seat in the Senate, while Pueblo will be represented by former Deputy Police Chief George Rivera.

It’s unclear when the city of Pueblo was last represented in the Senate by a Republican.

“Coloradans … sent a clear message that politicians who blatantly ignore their constituents will be held accountable,” said Dustin Zvonek, state director of Americans for Prosperity. “Perhaps this will serve as a lesson that one-party rule in Denver doesn’t give the majority license to take things to extremes or run roughshod over the values and rights of Coloradans who just happen, for the moment, to be in the minority.”

[…]

But it wasn’t just the NRA that warned Democrats about messing with gun rights.

Sen. Lois Tochtrop, an Adams County Democrat and longtime Second Amendment activist, opposed five of the seven gun bills initially introduced in the session, including a lightning-rod proposal by Morse.

That proposal would have assigned liability for assault-style weapon damages to manufacturers and sellers, but Morse killed it at the 11th-hour because he didn’t have the votes to pass it through the Democratic-controlled Senate.

“I feel like all these gun bills have done — to quote the last words in the movie ‘Tora! Tora! Tora!’ — is to awaken a sleeping giant,” Tochtrop said during the debate.

Awaken they did.

Well done, Colorado second amendment proponents. Well done.

Colorado recall

‘Stand up for your rights!’ someone, somewhere shouted.
And so Coloradans did.
(Photo via CBS)

Connecticut firearms maker set to formally announce move to South Carolina

Via the Sun News of Myrtle Beach:

CONWAY — Connecticut firearms manufacturer PTR Industries will announce Monday that it has decided to move its operation to Horry County.

The formal announcement is to be made at a 2:30 p.m. ribbon cutting ceremony at an industrial building in the Cool Springs Business Park.

[…]

The company was identified as Project Phaser in the resolution, but Brad Lofton, CEO of the Myrtle Beach Regional Economic Development Corp. said previously that Phaser was the name given to PTR Industries.

[…]

Josh Fiorini, PTR’s CEO, told The Sun News that the company will have 140 employees, many of whom will relocate in the move, which he said will happen over three years.

[…]

PTR Industries is one of two Connecticut firearms manufacturers that have said they are being courted by Horry County. The other, Stag Arms, said it is interested in the area, according to Mark Malkowski, Stage Arms CEO.

[…]

The move was precipitated by restrictive gun laws passed by the state of Connecticut.

The Associated Press has more:

BRISTOL, Connecticut — Less than a week after Connecticut Gov. Dannel P. Malloy signed gun restrictions into law in April, gun manufacturer PTR Industries said it intended to leave the state to avoid the damage it expected to be inflicted on its business.

On Wednesday, the rifle manufacturer kept its promise, announcing it will move to Aynor, South Carolina

“One hundred percent of our product line is now illegal in Connecticut due to that law,” said John McNamara, the company’s vice president for sales.

I suspect this will be the first move of many for gun manufacturers around the country who are based in states that are demonizing gun owners and passing more restrictive gun laws in the aftermath of the Newtown massacre.  Can you blame them?

Gun control argument

‘Nuff said.

VP Biden to clergy: Please urge your flock to support gun control

The Associated Press reports on the latest in a round of aggressive tactics taken by the White House to try and drum up support for their gun control legislation:

WASHINGTON (AP) — Vice President Joe Biden wants pastors, rabbis and nuns to tell their flocks that enacting gun control is the moral thing to do. But another vote may have to wait until Congress wraps up work on an immigration overhaul.

Biden met for two-and-a-half hours Monday with more than a dozen leaders from various faith communities — Christian, Jewish, Muslim and Sikh, to name a few. Both Biden and the faith leaders encouraged each other not to give up on what has been an arduous and thus far fruitless effort by Biden and President Barack Obama to pass new gun laws in the wake of December’s schoolhouse shooting in Connecticut.

Around a large, circular table in a conference room on the White House grounds, Biden waxed optimistic about prospects for passing a bill, according to four participants who spoke to The Associated Press after the meeting. Biden’s chief of staff, Bruce Reed, joined the group, as did a handful of Obama aides who work on faith-based outreach. The meeting closed with a meditation and a prayer for action.

But don’t expect a vote any time soon.

“The conversation presumed the vote would happen first on immigration,” said Rabbi David Saperstein, who directs the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism. “That seemed to be the back-and-forth on both sides — that immigration was a key priority right now. When that vote took place, it would be an opportunity to refocus on this.”

A far-reaching immigration overhaul is in the early stages of advancing through the Senate. Obama said last week he’s optimistic it can be completed this year.

Although momentum on gun control stalled in the Senate last month, Biden has insisted the issue is very much alive, and has been meeting regularly with gun violence victims and law enforcement to build support for a second go at legislation to expand background checks, improve mental health care and take other steps to reduce gun violence. Monday’s session reflects an attempt to broaden the coalition calling for new gun laws to include a wide array of religious groups — including evangelicals and conservative faith communities.

Let’s pause for just a moment to think about what the reaction would be had this been VP Dick Cheney meeting with “religious leaders” to get them to reaffirm their pro-life commitments and pass on the message to their congregants.  Yeah, we know how that would work out.

In all seriousness, this whole debate has become a joke – and not a funny one – like national debates on gun control often do.  They’re almost always one-sided, with the mainstream media helping their liberal columnist allies and Democrat politicos paint the narrative that most gun owners, are big, bad, evil, ugly,  trigger happy – and want to shoot and hurt people the first chance they get.  We all know the opposite is true, and we also know that the most recent proposed gun legislation efforts sadly would NOT have prevented the horrific murders in Newtown, Aurora, Virginia Tech, and elsewhere. But the idea is to put emotion-based arguments out there so the unsuspecting and well-intentioned don’t realize that the only thing said gun legislation does is to further restrict the second amendment rights of law abiding gun owners while ensuring that those who don’t give one little damn about any law will go about obtaining their weapon(s) of choice anyway they can get it  (them).   And then when the next gun massacre occurs, even more control will be the order of the day, and again – it will change very little, if anything at all.

I was watching ABC’s morning news program with George Stephanopoulos  on Friday and the coverage there exemplified how the news media operates and why we can’t ever get anywhere on discussions about gun rights and gun control.  The set up was how “some” Senators who voted against the recent “bipartisan” legislation on guns were being “targeted” in their home states by angry voters .  Both Stephanopoulos and the “on scene” journalist reported that the Senators they were featuring (Ayotte and Flake) had  caved to “pressure from pro-gun forces” – without ever once mentioning the pre-vote level of pressure they surely faced from the gun control lobby, now kicked into high gear thanks to former Rep. Gabby Giffords and her demagogue husband Mark Kelly.  Giffords, incidentally, penned an op/ed a few weeks ago that urged moms across America to, essentially, stalk their Senators in grocery stores and tell them they’d lost their vote over this bill:

I am asking every reasonable American to help me tell the truth about the cowardice these senators demonstrated. I am asking for mothers to stop these lawmakers at the grocery store and tell them: You’ve lost my vote. I am asking activists to unsubscribe from these senators’ e-mail lists and to stop giving them money. I’m asking citizens to go to their offices and say: You’ve disappointed me, and there will be consequences.

Yes, Ms. Giffords – a stalking victim herself – urging voters to track down their Senators in stores in their states to tell them how they feel. New tone, anyone?  In fact, some have even speculated that that op/ed didn’t sound like something Ms. Giffords would pen and more sounded like what Commander Kelly would say.  Wouldn’t surprise me a bit to find out she signed off on it but that he wrote the bulk of it.  The harsh tone of the op/ed, the insults to the opposition, not to mention the urging of citizens to stalk their elected representatives — none of that sounds at all like anything Gabby Giffords the aisle-crosser would advocate saying or doing.

But back to the ABC report, not only did it set a narrative that Ayotte and Flake “caved” to pro-gun forces because of the pressure while insinuating they felt no comparative pressure from the other side, but it also failed to note that there are DEMOCRAT Senators who also voted against the bill who are facing backlash in their competitive states. Where were their cameras?  Furthermore, don’t you just love how the MSM always frames issues so that if a Republican votes a certain way it’s due to “pressure and campaign contributions” but when Democrats vote a certain why it’s due to “principle and the people”?  Where is the fairness in that?

We will get NOWHERE on this issue as long as the left and their allies in the press continue to use such deliberately deceptive tactics, insisting on advancing emotion-based arguments in an effort to try and “win” the debate, instead of having substantive, candid discussions that bring up inconvenient facts about gun ownership and gun free zones that they don’t want to hear.  You know what they say: Never let the facts get in the way of a good ol’ fashioned rant.  That’s pretty much the left’s motto in a nutshell – and for the last several decades, we as a society have seen the slow but steady erosion of our rights because of it.  It’s time for that to change – in church, in school, in the home, and beyond.

Manchin-Toomey falls short, 4 Dems vote with GOP, Obama throws a tantrum

Pretty much all you need to know about the defeat of the much-discussed “compromise” amendment from Senators Manchin and Toomey.  Here’s a full list of “defectors” from both sides:

Republicans who defected and voted “yes”:
Pennsylvania Sen. Pat Toomey
Illinois Sen. Mark Kirk
Maine Sen. Susan Collins
Arizona Sen. John McCain

Democrats who defected and voted “no”:
North Dakota Sen. Heidi Heitkamp
Arkansas Sen. Mark Pryor
Alaska Sen. Mark Begich
Montana Sen. Max Baucus
Nevada Sen. Harry Reid (Reid only voted no for procedural reasons, so that Democrats can call up the provision later on)

You can read our embarrassing celebrity President’s temper tantrum on this here (update: watch here) – complete with a photo demonstrating the use of predictable yet sympathetic political props, who I am not upset with – BTW. I’m disgusted with our President and his party using them, however, as if there are not those on the “other side” of this debate who have intensely personal reasons for not wanting the Manchin-Toomey amendment to pass. As always, the President, straw men firmly in hand, paints the opposition as “bought and paid for” while his is “people-driven.”

What a jerk.

Tweet of the Day:


Michael Moore: Let’s show pix of dead #Newtown children in order to destroy the NRA

Despicable beyond measure:

Filmmaker Michael Moore’s suggestion that showing crime scene photos of the children slain at Sandy Hook will hasten the demise of the National Rifle Association is not getting rave reviews in the shattered Connecticut community.

The left-wing social critic wrote in his blog Wednesday an item titled “America, You Must Not Look Away (How to Finish Off the NRA),” in which he recommended releasing the undoubtedly gruesome photos of the 20 children killed on Dec. 14, 2012, some of whom were shot up to 11 times. Moore said the fact that Americans have “done nothing to revise or repeal” the Second Amendment “makes us responsible.”

“ … and that is why we must look at the pictures of the 20 dead children laying (sic) with what’s left of their bodies on the classroom floor in Newtown, Connecticut.”

Moore predicted a parent of a child killed in the horrific elementary school massacre or another high-profile mass shooting would make pictures available, adding “and then nothing about guns in this country will ever be the same again.”

Jeremy Richman, whose 6-year-old daughter Avielle was killed in the attack by gunman Adam Lanza — a 20-year-old, mentally-troubled local man who later killed himself as police responded — said Moore’s idea is off-base.

“I would be very strongly against that,” an incredulous Richman said when being informed of Moore’s idea.

Another parent of a 6-year-old boy killed in the attack, in Newtown, Conn., was upset that such an idea would be proposed.

“You can imagine what my reaction to that is,” the outraged mom said, declining any further comment.

Can you blame them? I certainly don’t.

I wish like hell liberals would stop shamelessly using children as props, especially when playing dangerous political games with our Constitution.  “Offensive” doesn’t even come close to describing it.

Michael Moore

Loser? Indeed.
Photo via Newsbusters

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Whaddaya Know: Following Biden’s shooting advice could equal jail time in Delaware

Turns out the “advice” the nation’s veep gave this week regarding firing ‘warning shoots’ from a shotgun if you feel threatened might get a Delaware gun owner in trouble with the law. Oops! Via US News:

Vice President Joe Biden might want to have a talk with his son, Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden, before he makes another public statement about guns.

In a Facebook “chat” Tuesday, the vice president said that he had advised his wife, Jill, to fire a shotgun in the air from their Delaware home’s porch if she was concerned for her safety.

“I said, ‘Jill, if there’s ever a problem, just walk out on the balcony here, walk out and put that double-barrel shotgun and fire two blasts outside the house,'” Biden said.

“You don’t need an AR-15—it’s harder to aim,” he added, “it’s harder to use, and in fact you don’t need 30 rounds to protect yourself. Buy a shotgun! Buy a shotgun!”

However, Delaware law would likely make his suggestion illegal—unless the shots were fired in self-defense in a truly life-threatening situation.

A sergeant with the Wilmington, Del., police department explained to U.S. News that city residents are not allowed to fire guns on their property.

The sergeant, who preferred not to be identified, said that Wilmington residents are also not allowed to shoot trespassers. “On your property you can’t just shoot someone,” he said. “You have to really feel that your life is being threatened.”

Defense attorney John Garey—a former Delaware deputy attorney general—agreed, and added that several criminal charges might result if Jill Biden took her husband’s advice.

“In Delaware you have to be in fear of your life to use deadly force,” Garey said. “There’s nothing based on his scenario alone” indicating a reason to fear imminent death, he noted.

Garey said that under Biden’s scenario, Jill Biden could be charged with aggravated menacing, a felony, and reckless endangering in the first degree.

“You cannot use deadly force to protect property” in Delaware, added Garey.

“It is not uncommon” for people to be charged with crimes under similar circumstances, he said. “I’ve seen cases where lawful citizens have used guns outside their homes and they end up arrested.”

Rob Wiltbank, a gun rights advocate who founded Delaware Open Carry in 2008, told U.S. News he agrees with the vice president that a shotgun would be good for home protection, but he was also troubled by the hypothetical.

“It would be incredibly irresponsible of a gun owner to blindly discharge a firearm into the air,” said Wiltbank. “What goes up, must come down and this specific behavior has been the cause of many negligent homicides over the years.”

Tom Shellenberger, a lawyer who serves as a spokesman for the Delaware State Sportsmen’s Association, told U.S. News that Biden’s security tip was “the worst type of advice.”

The Vice President of the United States is the man our celebrity President put at the head of the “gun control task force” in the aftermath of the horrific Sandy Hook elementary shooting murders in Newtown, CT, yet he apparently doesn’t know the gun laws in his own state. Telling. Both of the VP and the Prez. And not in a good way.

Joe Biden: If you want to defend yourself against an intruder, all you need is a shotgun

Via HuffPo:

WASHINGTON — Vice President Joe Biden said Tuesday that there’s no reason that people should need to own an assault weapon. They’re hard to aim, they’re difficult to use. But shotguns, well, that’s a different story.

During a Facebook Town Hall hosted by Parents magazine, Biden took a handful of questions from readers about gun violence. One questioner named Kate asked how gun owners would be able to sufficiently protect themselves if Congress passed a bill banning certain weapons and high-capacity gun magazines.

“Kate, if you want to protect yourself, get a double barreled shotgun,” Biden responded. “I promise you, as I told my wife, we live in an area that’s wooded and somewhat secluded. I said, Jill, if there’s ever a problem, just walk out on the balcony here, walk out, put [up] that double barreled shotgun and fire two blasts outside the house.”

The vice president said that by firing two shotgun blasts, anyone who might be trying to break in would be scared off.

“You don’t need an AR-15,” he said. “Buy a shotgun! Buy a shotgun!”

Forget that! There are so many scenarios where a shotgun simply wouldn’t work. What about a .38 special? Or are they next on the list to ban, too? This guy’s insane. But at least not as off the wall as Colorado state Rep. Joe Salazar (D), who has had to walk back dangerously outrageous comments he made on the floor of the Colorado House of Representatives regarding women, rape, and self defense:

The video of a Democratic lawmaker talking about rape while debating a gun bill involving college campuses has gone viral, with Republicans and Second Amendment activists likening Rep. Joe Salazar to failed Senate candidate Todd Akin.

The freshman lawmaker from Thornton apologized Monday, agreeing his comment was inartful but saying he’s not the “boorish, macho, Neanderthal Latino” conservatives are making him out to be.

During debate of House Bill 1226, which outlaws concealed-carry permit holders from carrying in university buildings, Salazar said he was trying to make the point about the potential for misidentifying someone and possibly shooting the wrong person.

“It’s why we have call boxes, it’s why we have safe zones, it’s why we have the whistles. Because you just don’t know who you’re gonna be shooting at,” Salazar remarked in the debate late Friday.

“And you don’t know if you feel like you’re gonna be raped, or if you feel like someone’s been following you around or if you feel like you’re in trouble when you may actually not be, that you pop out that gun and you pop … pop a round at somebody.”

[…]

Salazar issued a written apology Monday after he was ridiculed and ripped in blogs and on Twitter.
“We were having a public policy debate on whether or not guns makes people safer on campus. I don’t believe they do,” he said. “That was the point I was trying to make. “If anyone thinks I’m not sensitive to the dangers women face, they’re wrong. I am a husband and father of two beautiful girls, and I’ve spent the last decade defending women’s rights as a civil rights attorney.”

Which is not really an apology but whatever. Nice to know where he “stands” – and that’s against women being able to protect themselves from rape using anything other than a “whistle” and a “safe zone.” #HeadDesk

But I digress. Continuing on with Biden’s remarks:

Biden fielded a handful of other questions about gun reform proposals. He said he doesn’t support making changes to the Second Amendment and described America’s “really healthy gun culture,” which was a “part of my father’s ethic.” He clarified to another questioner that nobody wants to take away people’s guns.

Might want to tell that to Missourians, pal:

Democrats in Missouri introduced startling anti-gun legislation that would require gun owners to hand over their legally purchased so-called “assault weapons”  to “the appropriate law enforcement agency for destruction” within 90 days.

Under the proposed bill, “Any person who, prior to the effective date of this law, was legally in possession of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine shall have ninety days from such effective date to do any of the following without being subject to prosecution.”

Here are some additional provisions found in the gun control bill:

(1) Remove the assault weapon or large capacity magazine from the state of Missouri;

(2) Render the assault weapon permanently inoperable; or

(3) Surrender the assault weapon or large capacity magazine to the appropriate law enforcement agency for destruction, subject to specific agency regulations.

[..]

5. Unlawful manufacture, import, possession, purchase, sale, or transfer of an assault weapon or a large capacity magazine is a class C felony.

So essentially the law would turn a law-abiding gun owner today, into a felon tomorrow.

State Reps. Rory Ellinger (D-86) and Jill Schupp (D-88) reportedly introduced the anti-gun legislation, House Bill 545, this week.

A similar piece of legislation is being  discussed in California, where gun laws are notoriously strict and where they are already allowed to forcibly confiscate guns from convicted criminals who have lost their right to own them under California law:

A California law that allows authorities to track down gun owners who lost their legal rights to keep their weapons — and then confiscate those firearms — is being heralded as a model for the nation, according to one media report.

The state, which maintains an Armed Prohibited Persons list, is home to more 19,700 gun owners who aren’t allowed to legally possess their firearms, the state’s attorney general said in an United International Press report. The gun owners, the report continues, were once legal carriers but then lost their rights after committing crimes.

And perhaps soon, in states like Colorado and California, you won’t even have to have committed a crime to have your firearm of choice confiscated – other than the crime of being a law-abiding, rules-following gun owner.

Would someone alert Joe Biden, please? I’d hate for the feds to one day take away his shotguns.  Oh wait, that’s right. That won’t happen, because there are always exceptions made for The Important People. The little folks, on the other hand …

Related: Via Twitchy Team –  Who needs a gun? University of Colorado advises women to scream, vomit, fake a disease to avoid rape