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Great White Rat says:

April 22, 2007 at 9:23 pm

If Sarkozy wins the runoff, it will be official – even the French have more backbone than the Democrats.
Ginzu says:

April 23, 2007 at 4:34 am

@Great White Rat: I’m not quite sure about that… Sarkozy, on a European point of view, is rather dangerous. Of course you would not know, since you elected an even more dangerous president…
LesGonzes.net says:

April 23, 2007 at 4:46 am

15 jours moins le quart avant Sarkozy

31% c’est pas mal, bravo Nicolas.
Pourras-tu droitiser ton discours pour ratisser au FN ou le crentriser pour amadouer l’UDF?
Je pense que, mon petit Nicolas, tu es dans une belle merde et que tu t’y es mis dedans tout seul.
On va bie…
Drewsmom says:

April 23, 2007 at 6:19 am

As usual, I agree with Great White Rat, oh wouldn’t it be loverly, loverly, loverly.:)
Great White Rat says:

April 23, 2007 at 9:29 am

Sarkozy, on a European point of view, is rather dangerous.

Most of western Europe is bogged down with the high unemployment and low productivity that naturally spring from socialism. And between the low birth rates of the native-born Euros and the uncontrolled islamic immigration, the caliphate looms closer every day.

So I can understand how people who are cluelessly transitioning from the welfare state to sharia law would consider someone who champions a free, vibrant economy, the principle of hard work, and preserving the heritage of western civilization to be “dangerous”.

Except for a few men and women of vision like Sarkozy and Merkel, it’s looking more and more like the only hope left for Europe is in the old Warsaw Pact nations.
Leslie says:

April 23, 2007 at 11:08 am

“With most votes counted in Sunday’s first round, Mr Sarkozy had nearly 31%, with Ms Royal, bidding to be France’s first woman president, on 25%. Centrist Francois Bayrou got 18%, and far-right Jean-Marie Le Pen almost 11%.”

One assumes the Le Pen votes will go for Sarkozy, or else they’ll just stay home. Let’s say most show up to vote for Sarkozy, which would bring him up to, oh make it 39% right there. That means he needs only slightly more than half of Bayrou’s centrist votes to prevail.

Will this happen? Well, let’s see . . .

“Ms Royal is also regarded with suspicion, seen as too authoritarian and conservative by some Socialists.”

So I presume many of the votes for the centrists were voters who viewed Royal with suspicion. But exactly how many? We’re about to find out.

😕
Ginzu says:

April 23, 2007 at 12:03 pm

You must all be kidding?
What works in the US does not necessarily work outside of the US.
It is not because you’ve an all out capitalist system that it is the best any human can get… Sarkozy is not only a capitalist, but French people can deal with this; he is, morevoer, very scary and bears very specious and fallacious ideas (such as gay and paedophile genes).
Neil says:

April 23, 2007 at 12:39 pm

Leslie – you think Le Pen voters are going to go for the son of a Hungarian immigrant and Jewish mother?
It is no more likely that right-extremists in the NDP would vote for the Christian Dems, given a choice between them and the Social Dems.

Interesting turn-around though, if Sarkozy wins while Blair steps down, two of the friendliest adminstrations to the US will be in “Old Europe”- France and Germany.

Good timing for R. Gates to enter the scene as Defense Sec., saying that such terminology is a thing of the past.
Leslie says:

April 23, 2007 at 2:29 pm

To Neil:

As I said, I believe the Le Pen voters will vote for Sarkozy or simply stay home. I’ve no idea in what proportion.

What is key, however, is that they will surely not vote for Royal.

I’ll make a guess–and that’s all it is–that no matter which is elected, relations between the U.S. and France will improve. More under Sarkozy, I’d imagine. But improve in either case.

😕
Great White Rat says:

April 23, 2007 at 8:28 pm

From Ginzu:

he is, morevoer, very scary and bears very specious and fallacious ideas (such as gay and paedophile genes).

Interesting. If anything, those ideas should have you on the left embracing him. For years, the left has been looking for a “gay gene” to explain homosexual behavior. It would, after all, absolve the individual for their behavior, which falls in line perfectly with the left’s disdain for the concepts of personal responsibility.

Other than that, however, your description of him as “very scary” seems to stem more from the idea that he might try to get the French off their soft year-long vacation schedule and back to work. That’s such an “American” idea, you know.

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