So, the ATF was running guns *and* drugs? Ahem… WTF??

Posted by: Phineas on August 5, 2011 at 7:36 pm

**Posted by Phineas

Are we sure they’re not the Mafia in disguise?

From the El Paso Times:

U.S. federal agents allegedly allowed the Sinaloa drug cartel to traffic several tons of cocaine into the United States in exchange for information about rival cartels, according to court documents filed in a U.S. federal court.

The allegations are part of the defense of Vicente Zambada-Niebla, who was extradited to the United States to face drug-trafficking charges in Chicago. He is also a top lieutenant of drug kingpin Joaquin “Chapo” Guzman and the son of Ismael “Mayo” Zambada-Garcia, believed to be the brains behind the Sinaloa cartel.

The case could prove to be a bombshell on par with the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives’ “Operation Fast and Furious,” except that instead of U.S. guns being allowed to walk across the border, the Sinaloa cartel was allowed to bring drugs into the United States. Zambada-Niebla claims he was permitted to smuggle drugs from 2004 until his arrest in 2009.

In other words, an arm of the federal government allowed one gang to bring drugs into the US in return for information about other gangs. Drugs that would enrich the gang through proceeds from their sale. Drugs that would destroy lives through their use and through the violence association with the trade. Drugs that are a federal crime to move and sell. These aren’t minor offenses being overlooked here for the greater good.

Erick Erickson of Red State wonders why Holder still has a job. While that’s a good question for many good reasons, look at the dates in the article: these operations date back through George W. Bush into Bill Clinton’s administration, indicating a tradition of “felony stupid;” they include contract killings done for the cartel while the assassin was under ICE “supervision.”

Granted, the source for this is himself a cartel member who has every incentive to save himself by claiming he was working for the US, but, if he has the proof to back this up or can get it turned over via discovery… “Bombshell” would be a very mild description. And, in the light of what we already know and are learning about the “Gunwalker” fiasco, it’s disturbingly plausible. At the very least, this is another avenue for Congressman Issa’s already-busy investigators to follow.

Meanwhile, I have to ask: What the Sam Hill is going on at ATF??

(Crossposted at Public Secrets)

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9 Responses to “So, the ATF was running guns *and* drugs? Ahem… WTF??”


  1. Carlos says:

    IF this proves out, I’m of a mind to advocate for the same thing as for Obhammud/Holder’JanNap: find out how far up the ladder each admin was involved (up to and including each prez), drag those who gave approval into court and tried as accessories and, if convicted, throw the book at every one of them because (as every police officer convicted of misconduct or worse knows) they should be held to a higher standard.

    It’s about time we, the people, threw the same fear of government into our “leaders” as they throw into us with all of their regulations and retributions.

  2. H Hazell says:

    I’ve heard two news analysis spots during which liberal pundits were quick to point out in some manner that this “project” (Fast and Furious) began during the Bush years. Though it did, the part now under scrutiny (aka Gun Walker) is wholly owned by Obama and Holder. It went off on a tangent not even considered in the original effort. And it certainly fits into the progressive view (myth/fiction/lie) of easy access to guns in the US by Mexican drug cartels. The drug running aspect requires action against those involved regardless of their current status as “public servants.”

  3. Jim McDonald says:

    +We need an independent prosecutor.

  4. captaingrumpy says:

    It’s very plausible,to say the least. The more a person is promoted and his ego is enshrined,he will go through a stage where he thinks of fixing everything in his department by a major, major mission. Allowing one cartel to bring in drugs is OK in his mind that he will be able to stop the other cartels with improved efficiency. Think of the Presidents,the mayors etc that have great jobs but do one enormous crime. doesn’t figure why they would throw everything away on one thought. Narcissus

  5. Lorica says:

    I hate the ATF, they are full of such idiots. – Lorica

  6. Carlos says:

    ATF, Lorica? They’re just one small fish in a bureaucratic ocean of idiots, led by the Narcissistic-Idiot-in-Chief!

    And therein lies the problem. Now that we have a supernova narcissist as glorious leader, they ALL believe they can create their own reality and it will actually happen without all those pesky unintended consequences narcissism tends to ignore completely.

    But that’s OK to them, because their hearts are in the right correct place.

  7. you're correct says:

    Carlos…I can tell you’re a conservative because you said “up to and including each prez”.

    If you’d been a lib, you would have been recommending those involved for Czarships in the Kenyan Kalamity’s administration.

    BTW. I agree with you 100%. EVERY president that allowed this to happen should be behind bars…in general population, preferably.

  8. mike in Baltimoe says:

    Sorry Folks, but Presidents dont go to jail. Even Agnew squirmed out of jailtime. And the LSM will cover for Holder till 2012. Nothing’s going to come of this but catching the minnows in the tank. The bigfish won’t get touched. Not with a Democratic Senate and the LSM kissing Obummers booty.