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Audacity of Truth
Spinsational:
"We were so busy just getting stuff done and dealing with the immediate crises that were in front of us that I think we lost some of that sense of speaking directly to the American people about what their core values are and why we have to make sure those institutions are matching up with those values."
-Obama, explaining recent Democrat losses, 1/20/10
Velvet Lair- The sexiness of winning the battle of good versus evil January 26, 2010
- Ever wonder why? January 12, 2010
- The decision to bench Peyton Manning: Right or wrong? December 28, 2009
- Is my dad turning into a metrosexual? November 24, 2009
- My “Things To Do For Christmas” list November 23, 2009
Where did the WMDs go?
FrontPage Magazine has an interview with former UNSCOM inspector (1996-1998) Bill Tierney on what happened to Iraqs WMDs, which we all know Saddam Hussein had. The question has been, since the war with Iraq started and the massive stockpiles we expected to find weren’t there is: where did they go?
What I found particularly interesting about this piece was when Tierney believed that Saddam began preparing for a possible war with the US: 2002 (emphasis added):
While working counter-infiltration in Baghdad, I noticed a pattern among infiltrators that their cover stories would start around Summer or Fall of 2002. From this and other observations, I believe Saddam planned for a U.S. invasion after President Bush’s speech at West Point in 2002. One of the steps taken was to prepare the younger generation of the security services with English so they could infiltrate our ranks, another was either to destroy or move WMDs to other countries, principally Syria. Starting in the Summer of 2002, the Iraqis had months to purge their files and create cover stories, such as the letter from Hossam Amin, head of the Iraqi outfit that monitored the weapons inspectors, stating after Hussein Kamal’s defection that the weapons were all destroyed in 1991
Note the Syria connection, which Tierney makes several times in the article. It has long been speculated that there were stockpiles of weapons moved from Iraq to Syria over the course of several months prior to the starting of the war with Iraq. While certainly it’s possible that Saddam started preparations sometime in the summer of 2002, it’s also very possible that the seed was planted in his head that the US aimed to finally disarm Iraq by a top official in Syria, who was told by none other than US Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) in January 2002 that he (Sen. Rockefeller) believed that the President was preparing to invade Iraq. By Rockefeller’s own admission (emphasis added):
SEN. ROCKEFELLER: No. The – I mean, this question is asked a thousand times and I’ll be happy to answer it a thousand times. I took a trip by myself in January of 2002 to Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Syria, and I told each of the heads of state that it was my view that George Bush had already made up his mind to go to war against Iraq – that that was a predetermined set course which had taken shape shortly after 9/11.
It’s become more and more clear to me, and anyone else who has followed the story of what happened to Iraq’s WMDs that Saddam Hussein had plenty of time to move, hide, flush down a river, bury, and/or destroy the unaccounted-for stockpiles of WMD. Not only is it very likely that he received advance notice of this through a top Syrian official thanks to the big mouth of a Democratic US Senator, but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that the back and forth wrangling at the UN we had to do from the time the President made his speech there in September 2002 to the time of the actual start of the war, Saddam Hussein had plenty of time to move WMDs. In my view, this is thanks to the spineless UN and an anti-war Democratic US Senator who tipped him off via discussions with an ally to Iraq: Syria.
Hat tip to Lorie Byrd for the FrontPage link.
(Cross-posted at Blogs For Bush)
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ST wrote, “had plenty of time to move, hide, flush down a river, bury, and/or destroy the unaccounted-for stockpiles of WMD” But ST! The Democrats and Media told me that we were “rushing to war” during the 14 month long rush.
See:
James Taranto
David Frum
Ann Coulter
Andrew Sullivan who says – “This isn’t so much a “rush to war” as some have bizarrely called it. It’s been an endless, painstaking, nail-biting crawl. This is a must read article…It’s during a time when Andrew had perspective
I included these links because they reference dozens of media and Democrat cries of “Rush to War”. There was even a movie called “Rush to War”. Go spend your money on it liberals!
You know why Sadamn buried his Air Force don’t cha?? Cause in Desert Storm 1 he asked Iran to watch over his Jet fighters. Well guess who didn’t give back his Jet Fighters. DOH!!!!
I think they are in Syria, too, but as with Hussein and CNN, the MSM doesn’t want to jeopardize their unnamed Al Qaida sources by follow up on things like the convoys to Syria during the crawl up to the war.
Sister Toldjah,
Good to be back here, I have been away for several weeks!
Most people I know are aware that Iraq moved weapons “somewhere,” the guess is usually Syria, as Colin Powell attempted to show.
The media just will not come clean on its political agenda, and that is why I have called for a confab of the leadership of my Texas Taxpayers Network.
The topic: a national mutli-billion dollar lawsuit against the Big Media for endangering our troops by encouraging attacks upon them by the enemy with slanted, distorted and false reporting.
In this lawsuit we will ask a jury to assess responsibility and damages for injuries and deaths sustained by our troops in these attacks and for the costs of medical care, rehab, and long-term treatment.
I will keep you posted.
ttyler5
Houston
Tyler,
Can anyone join your suit? Maybe if the MSM saw people in all 50 states and territories suing them, they’d capitulate.
Hey a class action lawsuit! It’d be one that I’d join.
Endangering the lives of American soldiers or Americans is like shouting “Fire” in a crowded theater. People are needlessly hurt and there was no fire.
Yeah, guys, it will be federal and national, likely filed here in Houston.
We will of course set up a website and have a system there for everyone to join.
I am especially anxious to have all the military families and our soldiers back from Iraq to join it as well.
We should all be able to join as consumers of news.. It has caused liberals to act on disinformation (you know like the word “fire” caused people to act).
We stayed in Japan for 7 years and Germany for 10 years and we need to right by Iraq and not let the innnocent people perrish with a power vacuum by withdrawing.
Hey Tyler! Good to see you again – I had been wondering about you. How have you been?
Why would Saddam Hussein develop chemical and biological weapons if he planned to move them to another country in case Iraq was invaded? If he had chemical and biological weapons, wouldn’t it be much more likely that he would use them in defense?
Tyler,
Your lawsuit is completely absurd. Do you know what the first amendment says? Do you really think our troops are being attacked because of what is said in the American Media? Has it ever occurred to you that things are going bad in Iraq because of the people in charge rather than the people who are reporting what is happening?
Brian, the First Amendment does not in any way shape or form give the press the right to endanger U.S. combat forces.
But that is what they are doing.
Out of hundreds of things that are happenning in Iraq everyday, the press is reporting regularly on only two very negative story lines: suicide bombings and US casualties.
As expert after expert has clearly stated, the media attention given to these attacks encourages more of such attacks.
The media is not only thoroughly distorting the picture, they are encouraging attacks on our troops by their distorted coverage.
If you don’t understand that a U.S. judge and jury will find them liable for this and assign a monetary value to it, you don’t understand U.S. law, U.S. courts and U.S. juries, and you certainly don’t understand how most of your fellow citizens look at this issue.
Sister, thanks for the note! I have been doing great, just don’t mention “hurricane” around me for a while!
My “Texodus” article about the disastrous mass evac of the Houston-Galveston area for hurricane Rita (along with the screams of about 2 million angry citizens who got stuck on the freeways for two days) — helped generate some results, the Governor has named a blue ribbon commission that is taking testimony all along the Texas coast and is charged with coming up with an improved emergency evac plan!
http://blogs.chron.com/stormwatchers/archives/2005/09/radio_free_dick.html
And the Lone Star Times cartooned me ala South Park style for a funny post I did on getting prepared for Hurrican Rita and how you need plenty of ‘Rita’s for a hurricane:
http://lonestartimes.com/2005/09/20/getting-ready-for-marga-rita/
Last but not least, it’s too cold here to go sailing and my favorite blond has bought a dirt bike, which I guess I’ll get to ride soon if I can just peel her off it for half an hour!
Brian asked, “Why would Saddam Hussein develop chemical and biological weapons if he planned to move them to another country in case Iraq was invaded?”
He did develop chemical and biological weapons. The question is was it stockpiles or not?
He didn’t “plan” to move them until he knew from Jay Rockefeller and others that we were serious. Are you ignoring the stellite photos of large amount of trucks before March 2003?
Brian wrote, “Your lawsuit is completely absurd. Do you know what the first amendment says? ”
Does your rendition allow for yelling “Fire” in a crowded theater?
Brian asked the question, “Do you really think our troops are being attacked because of what is said in the American Media?” Yep. Newsweek’s claims, CNN’s claims (Eason Jordan), and the general aid and comfort and attempt to turn the American people against the war with every American death eggs them on. Why do you ask a question with such an obvious answer?
PS, Sister, your blogging is in top form as well, this is getting really good!
Tyler,
What do you interpret this to mean?
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”
Can you cite a single case where the media was successfully sued for reporting bad news that was true?
If you want to attempt to sue the media for its reporting on the war in Iraq, then go ahead. The only thing you will accomplish, is making yourself look foolish.
Baklava,
You missed the point I was making about chemical and biological weapons. If Saddam had chemical and biological weapons, why haven’t they been used against American forces?
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You also don’t understand what is meant by the phrase “yelling fire in a crowded theatre”. It is only wrong to do this if there isn’t really a fire. If there really is a fire, then it is okay to yell, “fire” in a crowded theatre.
Brian asked, “If Saddam had chemical and biological weapons, why haven’t they been used against American forces?”
He did have them. He didn’t use them. We’ll leave that to liberals to speculate as they always do. Have fun doing it!
Brian wrote, “[I] don’t understand…” Oh. I understand.
That’s right. It was wrong for Newsweek to report what they did because it wasn’t true. It wa wrong for Eason Jordan to report what he did because it wasn’t true. It hyped up Islamists and got more Americans killed. There really wasn’t “targeting of journalists” (i.e. no fire) in the Middle East and there really wasn’t “flushing of the Koran”
Let’s just agree that you don’t understand!
Brian- this statement alone tells me you have no grasp on the issue; “Why would Saddam Hussein develop chemical and biological weapons if he planned to move them to another country in case Iraq was invaded?” I am sorry, but that is just plain ignorance on your part.
Brian, your insistence that the media is honestly and competently reporting the war on Iraq is so touching!
Why don’t you apply for a job in the NBC News PR department, before I sue them and they still have the money to hire you?
Because when the jury that hears this case gets through with them, they are gonna be paying part of the tab for medical care and death benefits to our soldiers and their families, and they won’t have any extra cash.
Baklava,
At one time Saddam did have chemical and biological weapons, but they were destroyed by weapons inspectors and in air strikes in 1998. There is no evidence he had any chemical or biological weapons since then.
According to the FBI, there were Korans flushed down the toilet. LINK
Pam,
What was the point of developing chemical and biological weapons if he wasn’t going to use them when attacked? Why didn’t Saddam use chemical or biological weapons against the U.S. if he had them?
Brian wrote, “ There is no evidence he had any chemical or biological weapons since then.
Tell it to the intelligence community who thought otherwise!
Brian wrote, “According to the FBI, there were Korans flushed down the toilet. WOO HOO HOO! That is the BOMB!
According to the laws of physics and common sense they wereen’t!
And your link isn’t NEW information. At the top of the page just like every other news article at the time you see thiese words: An inmate at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp accused US guards of flushing a Koran down the toilet in 2002, newly declassified FBI documents reveal.
Same info. NEW INFORMATION IS THAT BRIAN BELIEVES THE INMATE!:lol:
Said Brian yet again:What was the point of developing chemical and biological weapons if he wasn’t going to use them when attacked? Why didn’t Saddam use chemical or biological weapons against the U.S. if he had them? Do you know any of the history on the subject or are you just trying to look this way? Please read up on it. Or refer to the timeline post that ST put up today.
I just can’t get over this NEW INFO! Brian believes the inmate over physics, Tommmy Frnaks, and common sense.
Maybe I’m smiling too much now but it’s funny!
Baklava,
Eason Jordan didn’t report Americans were targeting journalists. He said this in a closed-door session and as a result of his statement, he lost his job at CNN. Newsweek got the report of a Koran being flushed down the toilet from a military official. What he said may or may not have been true. At worst Newsweek made an honest mistake about an insignificant matter.
According to the President of Afghanistan, there weren’t riots caused by what was reported in the Newsweek magazine.
“Those demonstrations were in reality not related to the Newsweek story,” the Afghan president said. “They were more against the elections in Afghanistan. They were more against the progress in Afghanistan. They were more against the strategic partnership with the United States. We know who did it. We know the guys. We know the people behind those demonstrations.”
I can’t believe that Baklava thinks that if the media would just stop reporting bad news from Iraq and if we would just blow up a few mosque and execute some Iraqis, the insurrection would go away.
That’s just too funny! Maybe I’m smiling too much now but it’s funny!
Pam,
Your continued evasion of the question “Why didn’t Saddam use his chemical and biological weapons on American forces if he really had them?” shows you have no grasp on the issue. I am sorry, but that is just plain ignorance on your part.
ttyler,
I never said anything about how honestly or competently the media’s reporting of Iraq is. I only stated what the first amendment says.
Brian- Saddam did have the weapons that he used on his own people. Now prior to the invasion, there is speculation that they were moved into Syria. Why would he move them and not use them? Let’s look at the months from July 2002-March 2003: Well had they been there upon our arrival, the world body would have had no choice but actually side with us militarily. Saddam had the French and Russians giving him info from the security council meeting at the UN. He knew exactly what was being discussed. He banked on this being a short conflict where he would need to go into hiding for the short term but would be allowed to come back as he did in 91′. As if! There were not going to be any new sanctions and he was never coming back.
Now he is banking on his trial.
No need to speculate for Brian’s off the wall question Pam.
It’s what he wants us to do is speculate.
To fall into that trap is to give him glee and ammunition.
And Brian,
To call Pam ignorant is wrong and I believe you owe her an apology. It is an indicator of things about you that will remain unnamed.
Baklava,
Try reading Pam’s comments about me.
You are a man?
So even though there was no evidence of WMDs, which you yourself admit, they are guilty and deserve to be illegally invaded? To have entire cities wiped out? To bomb civilians in the hope of getting one ‘terrorist’?
Please note for the record that before the Bush Jr. administration, civilains that defended their country from invaders were called rebels or freedom fighters, not ‘terrorists’.
But anyways back to the point. By your logic you yourself then think its ok if you are convicted and thrown in jail without any proof of what you are accused of? I highly doubt you would approve so eagerly.
what happened to the foundation of our legal system. INNOCENT UNTILL PROVEN GUILTY.
I guess that only applies to us special Americans.
P.S. I WAS a Republican untill last elections. So stow your stereotypes for someone who doesnt see through the thin veil of hypocrisy.
Cartaker, you are just another claim to be RINO. I don’t think you ever were a real Republican.
The truth is that the invasion WAS LEGAL. Saddam was in violation of 17 UN security council resolutions and of the Gulf War cease fire. From your rhetoric, I don’t believe you really care about truth, just spreading your propaganda.
Cartaker wrote, “deserve to be illegally invaded? To have entire cities wiped out? To bomb civilians in the hope of getting one ‘terrorist’
You could’ve written that about Yugoslavia/Bosnia….
BTW, “illegal” means something. You lie if you continue to use the word.
Caretaker wrote, “By your logic you yourself then think its ok if you are convicted and thrown in jail without any proof of what you are accused of?”
Does this mean the supposed guilty (Saddam) should be reinserted and given his country back by your logic Caretaker? That would do disservice to the troops and Iraqi civilians who have tried for the last 2 years to put their country towards a better life for everyone and democracy. I’m not sure why you’d be hell bent on doing that…. If you aren’t hell bent on doing that… I guess the point is that we are there and so what are you saying? Pull out now before the job is finished? Or do the right thing and finish the job?
The people here aren’t hypocrates as you called them in your last paragraph. They just have a different perspective than you and are guided by wanting to finish the job as opposed to what you want to do (which by the way you DIDN’T STATE – you only lashed out).