Terrorism remains undefined

Posted by: Sister Toldjah on December 5, 2005 at 10:18 am

… at least as far as the UN is concerned:

NEW YORK — To the Iraqi civilians who have dragged family members out of rubble, or grieving parents in Beslan forced to bury their children, the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter might seem inconsequential.

But to the 191 members of the U.N. General Assembly, that distinction was enough to scuttle the latest efforts to define terrorism and, ultimately, craft a comprehensive convention against it.

Why, you may wonder? Because the Organization of the Islamic Conference wanted a few, uh, exemptions made:

Arab and Islamic nations have demanded an exemption for freedom fighters, while European and most Asian and Latin nations say that targeting civilians is always wrong.

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Every nation agrees that terrorism is wrong, but many Arab and Islamic governments insist that an exception must be made for those fighting colonial domination or foreign occupation.

Among the groups that might fit that description: Islamic Jihad and Hamas in the West Bank, the insurgents of Iraq, and secessionist movements in Chechnya, Kashmir, the Philippines, Indonesia and Northern Ireland, among many others.

It is the same rift that derailed the terrorism discussions before the World Summit in September, when more than 150 presidents and prime ministers gathered here to lend their political support to a document that ultimately didn’t say anything new in the war on terror.

Same ol’ song and dance at the get-nothing-done UN and with so-called ‘moderate’ Muslim groups. While the US, UK, and other members of the Coalition of the Willing do the tough work, the preeners and self-important folks at the UN continue to dither.

Hat tip: LGF

Update: Sen. John Kerry has given us HIS definition of who the terrorists are: us. From pages 3-4 of this transcript from CBS “Face The Nation” yesterday – emphasis added:

SCHIEFFER: All right. Let me shift to another point of view, and it comes from another Democrat, Senator Joe Lieberman of Connecticut. He takes a very different view. He says basically we should stay the course because, he says, real progress is being made. He said this is a war between 27 million Iraqis who want freedom and 10,000 terrorists. He says we’re in a watershed transformation. What about that?

Sen. KERRY: Let me–I–first of all, there is so much more that unites Democrats than divides us. And Democrats have much more in common with each other than they do with George Bush’s policy right now. Now Joe Lieberman, I believe, also voted for the resolution which said the president needs to make more clear what he’s doing and set out benchmarks, and that the policy hasn’t been working. We all believe him when you say, `Stay the course.’ That’s the president’s policy, which hasn’t been changing, which is a policy of failure. I don’t agree with that. But I think what we need to do is recognize what we all agree on, which is you’ve got to begin to set benchmarks for accomplishment. You’ve got to begin to transfer authority to the Iraqis. And there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the–of–the historical customs, religious customs. Whether you like it or not…

Un-freakin-believable. Thank God this country had the good sense to not elect him president. He hasn’t changed a bit. He was undermining this war during the ‘04 campaign season, and he’s still doing it.

Hat tip: Captain Ed

(Cross-posted at Blogs For Bush)

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    1. ArizonaTeach says:

      Yeah, but he supports the troops and don’t question his patriotism. Why are these people not CALLED on this (besides, you know, the obvious reasons). Nothing gets me angrier…

    2. PCD says:

      I do think Kerry should be still tried for Treason for his actions post-Vietnam while still a member of the Navy. Meeting with the enemy on your own is a crime as is supporting the enemy to the detriment of your country, not to mention lying to Congress.

    3. Lorica says:

      I agree PCD. Kerry in my mind has proven himself to be a political opportunist. Who brings a video camera and has shots of himself taken to be used 35 years later in a bid for the presidency. Now he is attempting to do the same thing he did in Vietnam, but this time it is going to be an inside job. He is clueless. – Lorica

    4. Kevin says:

      It sounds like the arab and islamic nations are ok with calling Al Qaeda terrorists, since they are extremists and want to kill everyone. But they don’t want the others labeled terrorists since they are moderates (they only want to kill jews). Where the heck is the “Let’s not kill anyone” voice in islam?

    5. CZ says:

      The first ammendment protects John “Swifty” Kerry’s right to say whatever he wants.

      And last November voters had the right to determine that he was not fit for duty.

      Don’t go away mad, Swifty. Just go away.

    6. Ryan says:

      I’ve heard enough “Jenjis Kahn” talk today..

    7. Steve Skubinna says:

      It’s pretty simple, really – anyone who kills Jews is not a terrorist.

      Oh, and it’s okay to kill people who don’t hate Jews, too. But other than that, killing anyone else is terrorism.

      Well, obviously if you’re a Shiite it’s okay to kill Sunnis, let’s be reasonable here. Other than that -

      Oh, wait – if you kill people who support people who support Jews it’s not terrorism… I mean, like duh.

      But ASIDE FROM THAT…

    8. Brian says:

      Sister Toldjah,

      Would you like it if foreign troops speaking a foreign language came in to your house at 3:00 in the morning and searched through your private belongings? Do you think it’s possible that tactics like that might turn people against us?

    9. Val Johnson says:

      I’m fining it difficult to believe from the quote provided that Senator Kerry is calling anyone names. Are people possibly reading something into what he’s saying. This a very serious thing to twist someone’s words around.

      I would have worded it differently, but all Senator Kerry said was that women and children have felt terrorized by the troops entering their homes.
      LINK

    10. Um, if there is a home in Iraq suspected of harboring the type of terrorists who are killing our troops, I support what they are doing all the way. This is a WAR Brian, and this is another example of how you fail to get the big picture. Sen. Kerry should know better than to accuse troops of trying to snag terrorists who want them dead of “terrorizing” Iraqi children. That is not a way to show support for our fighting men and women – I’m sure our troops walking down the street with a gun might ‘terrorize’ the children but it is NOT intentional. Sen. Kerry made it sound as though it was. He is doing the same thing Charlie Rangel did last year when he claimed that troops were shooting civilians rather than military targets.

      Yet again, you come down on the side of someone denigrating what they are doing. Some “supporters” you guys are. This type of stuff coming from you guys is really starting to make me sick – and very angry. If this is the way you and some people in your party show “support” for the troops, it’s no wonder people question just how you support them.

    11. PCD says:

      Brian, I have to question your sanity. Do you really hate our military and government that much?

    12. Pam says:

      Brian, the fact that you would cite Kerry as an example for truth just made me laugh my a#$ off!

    13. NC Cop says:

      “Do you think it’s possible that tactics like that might turn people against us?”

      Good answer, let’s see if it’s up there……….**BUZZZZZZZZZZZZ**

      So, sorry, wrong AGAIN!!! Working next to the soldiers I’ve had the opportunity to walk foot patrols through a particular town that does not like the U.S. It is a largely Sunni stronghold and has rumored to have a safe house for Al Zarqawi. The children, although wary of us, love talking to the soldiers. They sometimes follow us through the town waving and talking to them. On the occasion they have searched houses, they have ALWAYS been respectful of the cultures, especailly regarding women, and property and thank the residents, usually shaking their hands.

      Also, how exactly do you expect the military to find weapons caches and insurgents?? Perhaps they can knock on the door and say “Any insurgents in here. No? Ok, Buh Bye!”

      It is clear that Brian nor John Kerry has any clue on what is going on over here.

    14. Brian says:

      Sister Toldjah,

      You’re the one who doesn’t get the big picture. The more Iraqis we turn against us, the less likely it is that we will win in the end.

      I’m not denigrating what our troops our doing. I’m repeating what one of our troops said who lost his life there. Here’s what Spec. John Kulick had to say:

      “When they swept a town, the insurgents would return just days later. Foreign fighters were allowed to slip easily through unsecured borders. Army leadership seemed disorganized and disconnected from the ground. Certain tactics, such as 3 a.m. house raids, created a new generation of terrorists.

      http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/13266919.htm

    15. AGAIN, there are troops there who feel just the opposite of what the troop you quoted said. Why is it you think one troop holds absolute moral authority in what he says over the other? Hint: they don’t. You think every other troop who gave his life honorably as the one you quoted did thinks the same? Guess again.

      You continue to amaze me at how you still don’t get it and never will. You cherry pick your evidence to suit your facts, Brian – everyone here knows that. You and the people in your party (namely, those in Washington) never ever learn from past mistakes and that’s not changed now. This convo has run its course, Brian, because we aren’t getting anywhere here after several back and forths – most everyone who’s posted in this thread believes exactly the opposite of you and you’ve made it clear you don’t agree. Believe whatever the heck you want to. Time to move on.