Wouldn’t this be refreshing?

Posted by: ST on March 26, 2006 at 10:56 pm

Katrina Vanden Heuvel, who is editor and publisher of the Nation, writes in today’s Washington Post:

Here’s a modest proposal for improving national political discussion: Stop equating our opponents with famous dictators, their chief executioners, police apparatus or ideologies. I’m all for learning from history, but times are hard enough in American politics — with war, threats to national security, the greatest divide between rich and poor in our history and deep cultural divisions. Present differences deserve to be described in contemporary terms. The purpose of public speech is not just to restate anger but to clarify the principles and evidence that fuel it — in ways that invite discussion, not inhibit it. The demons are already among us — so let’s muster up some new analogies and declare a ceasefire on such demonizing rhetoric as this:

Sounds refreshing in theory, but I don’t see it happening. Both sides appear to be too polarized at this point. What I do see happening, however, is that Vanden Heuvel doesn’t practice what she preaches. Why am I not surprised?

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    1. steve says:

      Pretty whiney stuff from Heuvel. Muckracking demands name calling because it forces the mind to focus on specific images without having to write a book. bush, is more like Nero, anyway. Nero is remember,historically, as the worst leader Rome ever had. Peace

    2. Baklava says:

      Is that why you name call?

      Unfortunate that you see it that way. The enemy is not conservatives. There are definate enemies in this world and you fail to recognize who they are.

      Quite illuminating.

      The point is Steve… Should we respond in kind and name call or try to debate ideas? I’ve tried with you but you failed to address any question I’ve asked. This failure is now explained. You don’t feel it necessary to respond to someone you hate.

    3. steve says:

      The only idea you seem to have is that everything the Left says is stupid and not worth debating. The Left knows that so they call a spade a spade. Peace

    4. CZ says:

      The lefties like to call a spade before they decide against calling a spade.:-"

    5. Baklava says:

      Steve said, “The only idea you seem to have is that everything the Left says is stupid and not worth debating.

      No. My point is that you name call. It’d be worth debating if you talked about ideas and/or solutions. You name call and do NOT engage in debate.

      There are a few here who do toss ideas around. Even Tommy just talked about a DMZ. I engaged on the DMZ idea. I didn’t realize he wasn’t talking about a complete shutdown of the border but he clarified himself. That’s what debating brings… a better understanding of ideas. Nobody can understand it if it’s just said Bush is a warmongerer. It doesn’t further the debate. It only illuminates who you are.

    6. Baklava says:

      THe left’s way of debating on display at this news article.

    7. steve says:

      Baklava, war is hel1, and sometimes people get frustrated and debate stops. Violence is always counter-productive. “bush is a warmonger”, means bush enjoys and likes war. That is how the Left sees bush. The Right see’s bush in a different way, so “bush is a warmonger”, is said to p1ss off the Right. It’s like when bush says,”bring it on”, that doesn’t mean a thing, but it p1sses off the Left, so bush says it. The debate is on a whole different level at this point. It is about the question, “Is war a valid tool of diplomacy or is it counter-productive and useless?” It just so happens that bush, got himself caught in a giant debate he has no control over, so he looks more and more silly trying to control it. Peace

    8. Mwalimu Daudi says:

      Here’s a modest proposal for improving national political discussion: Stop equating our opponents with famous dictators, their chief executioners, police apparatus or ideologies.

      Sorry, ST. Won’t happen. The Left doesn’t do truth, logic, facts, humor, debate, persuation, or free speech. Too easy to lose elections that way. It’s un-Democratic!

    9. benning says:

      steve, I would think Caligula was far worse, but I suppose that’s up to debate. Me, I would categorize Carter as this nation’s worst President, and its worst former President.

      But again, that’s up to debate.