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Harry Reid: Major-league *edited*
While the House yesterday quickly responded to the President’s veto of the embryonic stem cell research bill by attempting to override the veto (they failed), Senator Harry Reid took the time to send out a little fund-raising letter. The NYT reports:
Within hours of the veto, the Senate Democratic leader, Harry Reid of Nevada, sent out a fund-raising letter asserting that Mr. Bush had decided that curing diseases “was not as important as catering to his right-wing base.”
What a stupid, moronic, repugnant thing to say – considering a number of things, firstly that the “right-wing base” is divided about 50-50 on the issue (if what the NYT reports is accurate), and two, it totally ignores the many moral implications involved. Of course, I can see where Reid would have a little trouble understanding the moral implications of anything.
Expect more of this from Reid, and other demagoguing Democrats in the coming months as the election draws closer:
But Democrats are determined to make the veto a central theme of their fall election campaigns, hooking it in with another hugely divisive medical issue — the Terri Schiavo right-to-die case — to argue that Republicans are beholden to the religious right.
If that’s the case, maybe the Republicans should respond in turn by painting the Democratic party as the Party of Death. This book by Ramesh Ponnuru would provide all the information they needed to proceed.
It wouldn’t be a pretty campaign season, would it?
Wouldn’t it be nice if, for once in this country we could actually have a national debate on the issue of embryonic stem-cell research without politicians like Harry Reid acting, well, like politicians? The debate should be a moral one, not a political one, but sadly it’s turned more political than moral with an increasing number of Republicans in Congress joining up with Democrats on the issue because of the support stem-cell research in general has among the American people. Republicans are worried about how this veto will affect them in the fall elections. My response to those Republicans is that you have to go with your conscience on every issue – regardless of polls, especially on those issues related to the (potential) lives of the unborn.
Captain Ed and Anchoress have great posts up about the issue. First, Captain Ed:
Congress wanted to treat human life as a commodity instead of protecting it in all its forms. Bush made the right call in vetoing federal funding for these programs.
Undoubtedly, we will hear plenty from critics that Bush has endangered the health of Americans through his veto, a conclusion bordering on the absurd. Putting aside the fact that we shouldn’t grind up humans to save other humans, this veto doesn’t ban any kind of research at all. It just makes human embryonic stem-cell (hESC) research ineligible for federal funding. It’s not a ban, and in fact that research has never been banned within the US.
It never fails that when the press discusses things like President Bush vetoing this bill, they leave out the word EMBRYONIC.
They want the world to think that Bush is a “Christian who is afraid of science” and so they always discreetly forget the EMBRYONIC part, leaving casual readers to think the president is against adult stem cell research, in general…which is not at all true.
It is an intellectual dishonesty the press is committed to. And they never tell you about the experiments on Parkinson’s disease patients which had such horrific results that the research was stopped. Not just postphoned, but stopped.
That research, which I wish I’d put into my hard drive, made me believe that Embryonic stem cells are like uncut heroin…waaaay, way to powerful to use – they are part of begotten life in its purest form (perhaps still too near to God for our fooling with) – and they are so maleable as to be (so far in research) unpredictable and unusable. And that’s not even getting into the moral and ethical questions of whether or not a human embryo should be exploited in such a way, particularly when Adult Stem Cells are showing remarkable results in everything from helping sufferers of Sickle Cell Anemia and Thallassemias Major and Minor, to spinal injuries, skin regeneration and more.
Read it all.
Hat tip: Flopping Aces
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There are aspects to this that go way beyond any moral or ethical issues, you can also look at this from the standpoint of fiscal common sense. Embryonic stem cells have not proven to be the panacea everyone on the left seems to think they are, as mentioned they are fraught with problems, unpredictability, and the ability to spawn cancers and other nasty problems on the people they are used on. Contrary to what the left thinks, government funds are not unlimited, so why should we wast millions or billions of dollars of our tax money to fund research on something that offers such a poor return on investment? If embryonic stem cells were all that promising, private money would be there, but most private money is going to adult stem cells, and for good reason, they offer a better chance of providing workable cures.
Typical of the left, once again believing in fantasy over reality, and insisting that everyone else pay for their fantasy life. Embryonic stem cells don’t make sense from a moral, practical, or financial point of view, but hey, that’s not as important as finding something to complain about and blame Bush for.
Reid also assimilated the evacuation of Americans in Lebanon to being a ” ini Katrina”……can you believe the gall of this politard ?
That would be a “mini Katrina’…
The man has no shame, FT … none
Somehow the idea of teeth growing inside the brain, or the growth of cancerous tumors in tissue infused with embryonic stem cells, is unimportant to creatures such as Reid. The MSM will follow suit, as they have no interest in fact, truth, or common decency.
What a surprise, huh?
It just seems to me that this is closer to necromancy than it is science. I am a Christian, and I am not afraid of science, but I do feel that some in the scientific world abandon resonable moral constraints in the interest of advancement. I keep picturing a man in a white lab coat, holding a knife, chanting some non-specific scientific theorum, as a poor little baby is straped to a lab gurney. I know, I know I am overexaterating the situation. I am certain that the Aztec’s thought the same as those that disagree with the President, as they were sacrificing virgins. – Lorica
- In the next 50 to 100 years the whole area of bio-research/medical advancements is going to shape up as THE issue, world wide. As others have mentioned, there are social/moral issues that go far beyond any particular aspect of the process that we will have to wrestle with, and it’s not going to be easy.
- Where do we draw the line between government control/interference with private research?
- What about the conflicts between medical need and religious need?
- Who is going to decide which person does or doesn’t have access. Will it be just for the well to do, Will we extend all benefits to the homeless, as well as the person able to afford such treatments?
- Will all of these decisions be handled through popular vote? Will we be willing to abrogate life and death decisions to politicians? Doctors? Scientists? religious leaders?
- World wide we are already seeing population control problems. Feeding the people as things stand, even while we haggle over medical advancements that may extend average lifetimes to 200 years or more. Conflicts in birthrate versus life spans. Another issue loaded with political/cultural/religious implications.
- Several SF movies/novels have dealt with the slippery slope of government control. Everything from total population control to Fascist-like medical/death decisions.
- The most troubling aspect of this entire issue too me, is it doesn’t seem as if we’re proceeding in any well planned disciplined fashion. Everything seems to be “kneejerk” reactions by the people in all the various positions of responsibility. It’s fueled by a reticence to even discuss some of these deeply problimatical questions. Maybe we need some single group of Uber-decision makers, made up of the best minds in our country to lay out a new bill of rights that defines the average citizens position in all of this. Lacking that sort of leadership, this whole pile of questions concerning humanities future, is headed for some very stormy waters in the years to come.
- Bang
I’m not sure how I even stand on stem cell research, but can’t Harry Reid come on National television and act like an adult and present his position without looking like a spoilt little kid.
I say this to all the politicians, but I say it more to the democrats, as they are way more guilty of it. Act like a professional when you present your point of view, and maybe people will take you more seriously, respect you, and possibly vote for you.
Little tiny assed Reid is so pathetic.
We have NO firm science yet saying embyonic stem cells can do ANYTHING and there is plenty of private funding for this, let Bradgelina and Streisand and all the million dollar babies fund this. They are funding this by the way so it is being researched, I’ll take the snowflake babies over research any day.
I donated cord blood which is really promising and I have diabetics and others in my family so understand the promise here but do it the right way people and have some EVIDENCE to back up what you spout off.
We righties are not as dumb as howie dean thinks we are.
“Of course, I can see where Reid would have a little trouble understanding the moral implications of anything.”
How very true